Trump (Read 569753 times)

ren

Re: Trump
« Reply #220 on: January 29, 2018, 08:54:38 AM »
I don't know why a country like Russia would support a stronger, more nationalist President like Trump instead of a weaker candidate like Hillary. It would be harder to manipulate Trump than Hillary.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #221 on: January 29, 2018, 09:54:15 AM »
I don't know why a country like Russia would support a stronger, more nationalist President like Trump instead of a weaker candidate like Hillary. It would be harder to manipulate Trump than Hillary.

If Uranium 1 is true, then they would have what they need to blackmail Hillary.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #222 on: January 29, 2018, 12:40:56 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #223 on: January 29, 2018, 01:23:20 PM »
For those who want to make a statement (i.e. "Not my president"):


« Last Edit: January 29, 2018, 05:10:21 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #224 on: January 29, 2018, 07:11:40 PM »
Yahh! Freedom and justice shall always prevail over tyranny, Babysitter Girl!
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #225 on: January 29, 2018, 07:13:56 PM »
Don't forget free cars from Oprah...

She's already said she's not running.  So that free car joke is out of gas.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #226 on: January 29, 2018, 10:23:57 PM »
No, it does not.

It looks like the Tump haters couldn't get him for Russian collusion (since there wasn't any), so they are trying to get him for obstruction (which he hasn't done).

It only makes the Left look desperate and terrified of what Trump's DOJ is about to uncover on Obama's administration, the FBI and who knows whoever else.

After almost 3 years of looking, there's been zero evidence of Russian collusion.  Mueller's job is more than done.  Sessions should be allowed to get back to work.

So you have some sort of informant in the FBI? You know what they know? If not, I don't know how you proclaim to know all these things.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #227 on: January 29, 2018, 10:25:38 PM »
What specific "actions" are those?

Firing the FBI director and trying to fire Mueller.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #228 on: January 29, 2018, 11:13:04 PM »
So you have some sort of informant in the FBI? You know what they know? If not, I don't know how you proclaim to know all these things.

I can't divulge all my sources.  I've still got connections.

The memo is supposed to be read into the Congressional record soon -- either Friday or Monday depending on when Trump releases it.

So, I may not have read the memo, but I know more about what's going on than you ever will.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #229 on: January 29, 2018, 11:17:07 PM »
Firing the FBI director and trying to fire Mueller.

Deputy Director McCabe was fired by his boss, FBI Director Chris Wray.  The decision was made mostly because of the Inspector General report due out very soon on the FBI's handling of Clinton's illegal Email Server investigation and failure to recommend charges.

Trump was not part of that decision.  FBI works for the DOJ, not the President.

If Trump tried to fire Mueller, he would be gone.  Your comment that he tried is unsupported by any facts.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #230 on: January 29, 2018, 11:43:26 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #231 on: January 30, 2018, 06:13:10 AM »
Firing the FBI director and trying to fire Mueller.
As Alan Dershowitz (Obama campaigner and Clinton voter), very liberal Harvard law professor is pointing out time after time, the president has the constitutional authority to terminate the employment of many people in the government, including the FBI director, so the president doing that, in and of itself, is a nothing burger, legally speaking. It only has "the appearance" of impropriety if you happen to believe a certain "narrative", i.e. in this case the mainstream media narrative that Trump is guilty of some unnamed crime (originally "collusion" which is not illegal, just like "extremely careless" is not illegal), which then morphed into "obstruction of justice", for which there is no evidence at all.

Tried? How do you know Trump "tried to fire Mueller"? What did he do that was "trying to fire Mueller", and how did it turn out that his effort to fire him failed and Mueller is still in place? "You're fired!" "No I'm not." Okay."  As above, the president has the legal constitutional authority to fire a "special/independent counsel", so it would only be "damning" if you believe he did it in an effort to cover up something (a la Nixon)... and there is no evidence of that at all (the "information" in the "dossier" paid for by Clinton is fake).

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #232 on: January 30, 2018, 06:27:43 AM »
Firing the FBI director and trying to fire Mueller.
Are you saying there is some sort of underlying narrative here that no one else here sees? If so, let us in on it.

The MSM narrative is trying to make it sound like Trump "tried" to fire Mueller. If he wanted to fire him then he would have been fired already. The truth is probably more like Trump WANTED to fire Mueller but either decided not to on his own, or was talked out of it by someone looking out for his political well being. Because if he had fired him, it would have been political suicide for Trump IMHO. Actions speak louder than words.

Firing Comey, the proven classified information leaker, was one of the best things Trump ever did. He should have been fired just for leaking classified information. Most every president fires the FBI director upon taking office. So what is the big deal? Even Comey admitted he expected to be fired when Trump took office and was surprised when he wasn't fired right away. Again, actions speak louder than words here.

What is really more telling now is the removal of McCabe before he wanted to leave. And the timing sure seems suspicious considering it occurred right after the memo was voted on to be released. Hmmm
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punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #233 on: January 30, 2018, 08:46:05 AM »
What is really more telling now is the removal of McCabe before he wanted to leave. And the timing sure seems suspicious considering it occurred right after the memo was voted on to be released. Hmmm
Actually, the timeline is: Sunday: FBI director Wray goes to the secure chamber in the House basement to read the 4 page memo from the House Intel committee. Monday morning: McCabe "resigns". (Some claim that after Wray read the memo he told McCabe he was being demoted, and McCabe chose to resign instead, given that he has enough unused sick days to garner his 20 year pension already instead of waiting until his official 20 years in March, when he previously said he would quit.) Monday evening: House Intel committee votes to release memo. The president now has five days to make a decision on the release.

As a side note, you will have seen the House Democrats, including members of the Intel committee, bawling that the Republicans refused to pass the proposed release of a Democrat-written memo of their own. Bastard Republicans! Of course what all of those Dems failed to mention, every single one of them, is that they would not allow any Repubs to actually read the memo before voting on it's release! Just a minor inadvertent accidental error of omission, I'm sure! So we're back to a favorite Dem strategy: "We have to pass the law to find out what's in the law".  :crazy:

s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #234 on: January 30, 2018, 08:57:03 AM »

Border security Mexico isn't paying for.

Economy I was just told he isn't responsible for in the Q4 GDP debate.

No idea what trade agreements.

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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #235 on: January 30, 2018, 08:59:06 AM »
For those who want to make a statement (i.e. "Not my president"):



If I check the box am I also not responsible for the 1.5 trillion in additional debt?

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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #236 on: January 30, 2018, 12:17:55 PM »
^^^^We are all screwed by that regardless of who your president is.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #237 on: January 30, 2018, 12:24:39 PM »
If I check the box am I also not responsible for the 1.5 trillion in additional debt?

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As long as you pay for my part of the $9 trillion debt Obama added.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #238 on: January 30, 2018, 01:07:22 PM »
An update to the timeline above re McCabe "resignation" and Wray viewing the memo:

According to Catherine Herridge, after Chairman Nunes personally took FBI Director Christopher Wray to view the “Intel Memo” on Sunday night, and prior to the House Intel Committee vote to release the memo Monday evening, FBI Director Christopher Wray sent a Main Justice official and a “counterintelligence official” to view the content.

According to her report, those officials: “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.” [Must be corrupt Republican Main Justice and counter-intelligence officials, because the Dems have already told us repeatedly that the memo is a partisan cherry-picked distortion of reality.]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/30/fbi-officials-review-surveillance-memo-could-not-cite-any-factual-inaccuracies-source.html

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #239 on: January 30, 2018, 07:12:40 PM »




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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw