Calm down. Trump said in an interview that he's hoping to get it out by November 1st. Didn't sound to me like he knew what he was talking about.

Calm down. Trump said in an interview that he's hoping to get it out by November 1st. Didn't sound to me like he knew what he was talking about.

I am calm. I didn’t attack you or anything. Just pointing out that it was apparent that you didn’t read the article, yet were quick to jump to conclusions based on hate. If your feelings are that sensitive... 

Anyways, carry on.

Did you even read the article? If you read the article, it covered that Congress is out until after the mid-term elections. It also mentioned it was proposals with understanding that it would need to be taken up when Congress returns.

You, like so many, are so quick to judge based on hate before even really looking into the issues, or without even a care to look into the issues...

I was wondering why no one was pouting or bickering on TV. Everyones on vacation.



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I was wondering why no one was pouting or bickering on TV. Everyones on vacation.



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Vacation == Campaigning at home

I met with someone today who heard Trump give a speech at an insurance conference back when he was only property management before his casinos and reality show. Back when he was a New York Democrat. He said that Trump was a genius then but now thinks himself a god and is too full of himself. IOW, dimented. Tell you what, if the GOP retains the House in two weeks (currently at 35% odds), I'll stop saying anything bad about Trump, even after Mueller releases his post election findings.

https://electionbettingodds.com/ 
Problem, Congress is not in session so there's no one available to vote on approving a tax break for the middle class. It's possible but doubtful he can get enough back to congress a week before the election.

Let's not forget about his interview many years ago "If I ran for president, I would run as a republican.  Because they are stupid".

Watching his roast also from many years ago, it's funny how Seth McFarlain said he will be our president one day.  BTW Seth doesn't like Trump now.

And Trump was there at ground zero during 9/11.  I didn't see any other celebrity or politician (besides Bush) there.  He had nothing to benefit by being on the ground getting dusty.  Steve Buschemi did report to his old fire house to see how he can help.

Actions and results are what matter...

U.S. Unemployment Rate Drops To 3.7 Percent, Lowest In Nearly 50 Years

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654417887/u-s-unemployment-rate-drops-to-3-7-percent-lowest-in-nearly-50-years

Good job Obama. Youddaman!

What does the lawsuit have to do with Trump keeping his promise? Trump is keeping his promises. I think you are mistaken. The lawsuit is against the ACA which Trump promised to dismantle. That lawsuit is helping to dismantle the ACA. So Trump is keeping his promise by dismantling the ACA. And Trump is still keeping his promise by protecting those with preexisting condition through the AHCA. I did this from memory. So if I am mistaken, I am sure you will correct me.

Trump and the legislature passed the AHCA. I don’t consider that “...hasn’t don’e much of anything on health care...” So why is the AHCA not much of anything?

Heads

I know Trump promised to dismantle the ACA but he promised to keep the preexisting condition coverage. The problem as I understand it is that the lawsuit his administration filed would remove preexisting condition coverage.

Trump made grand promises about covering everyone, he certainly hasn't gotten that. He would have a hard time getting republicans to back him on that one of course but doesn't seem he has even tried. I wouldn't say the AHCA has done much though.

I’ll have to do more research into this, but on face value, this sounds like a win to me.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/trump-says-major-tax-cut-on-the-way-for-middle-class

I heard people talking about that on the news, thinking Trump was speaking without thinking. I am not against it but it would have to include a lot of budget cuts. Unfortunately his last tax cut didn't see corresponding cuts, which are forecast to increase the debt.

I know Trump promised to dismantle the ACA but he promised to keep the preexisting condition coverage. The problem as I understand it is that the lawsuit his administration filed would remove preexisting condition coverage.

Trump made grand promises about covering everyone, he certainly hasn't gotten that. He would have a hard time getting republicans to back him on that one of course but doesn't seem he has even tried. I wouldn't say the AHCA has done much though.

What you said here is not true at all. Trump said he would keep the preexisting condition through the AHCA. And that promise he has kept. He never once said he would keep the preexisting condition through the ACA. He also stated he would get rid of the ACA. How can he keep the preexisting condition in the ACA if it no longer exists?  I think you need to just stop before you continue to embarrass yourself here. Obviously you don’t know what you are talking about.

I heard people talking about that on the news, thinking Trump was speaking without thinking. I am not against it but it would have to include a lot of budget cuts. Unfortunately his last tax cut didn't see corresponding cuts, which are forecast to increase the debt.

Did you mean his tax cut didn’t have corresponding budget cuts?

From what I understand, yeas, the deficit increased recently. Analyst “experts” say that is because of tax cuts and spending increases. However, Many also say that that is expected as you need time for the economy and other factors to recalibrate. It takes time for the tax cuts to boost economy/spending. Like the discussion we had with trade wars, it’s not that simple. Yes, the tax cuts may have unintended consequences, but then need to adjust. I didn’t see you counter on the apparent success of decrease in unemployment and success of wage increases.

You call for the “other side” to take an unbiased look at things. Yet you seem to be stuck on bits and pieces of what you don’t like, but fail to see the big picture.

What you said here is not true at all. Trump said he would keep the preexisting condition through the AHCA. And that promise he has kept. He never once said he would keep the preexisting condition through the ACA. He also stated he would get rid of the ACA. How can he keep the preexisting condition in the ACA if it no longer exists?  I think you need to just stop before you continue to embarrass yourself here. Obviously you don’t know what you are talking about.

Since when does logic and facts matter to those to irrationally focused on hate?

You see a trend here? There are a couple of posters focusing on the hate and “what they heard or were told”. No critical thinking of their own or discipline to look into the issues themselves. It’s easy to buy into the MSM hate of Trump. Again, I still think he’s a buffoon, but he’s getting results that I believe are beneficial for America.

An anti-Trump friend posted this, but I thought it was funny.

Since when does logic and facts matter to those to irrationally focused on hate?

You see a trend here? There are a couple of posters focusing on the hate and “what they heard or were told”. No critical thinking of their own or discipline to look into the issues themselves. It’s easy to buy into the MSM hate of Trump. Again, I still think he’s a buffoon, but he’s getting results that I believe are beneficial for America.

I hear you. I keep thinking this guy is trying to be impartial. But in reality he is a huge Trump hater who only listens to the MSM. Oh well, he keeps embarrassing himself by making stuff up and then Trying to defend his lies by lying more. I’m surprised Flapp hasn’t keyed in on this and give him his piece of his mind. 

I’m in the I don’t like Trump but love what he is doing for the country camp. For that reason I support Trump and his agenda for the most part. It doesn’t matter to me if someone hates trump and his policies. I just don’t like to see lies being pushed around about him. 

1) I hear you. I keep thinking this guy is trying to be impartial. But in reality he is a huge Trump hater who only listens to the MSM. Oh well, he keeps embarrassing himself by making stuff up and then Trying to defend his lies by lying more. I’m surprised Flapp hasn’t keyed in on this and give him his piece of his mind. 

2) I’m in the I don’t like Trump but love what he is doing for the country camp. For that reason I support Trump and his agenda for the most part. It doesn’t matter to me if someone hates trump and his policies. I just don’t like to see lies being pushed around about him. 

1) Exactly. I mean not all minds think logically. But it interesting which folks tend to argue based on emotional basis and how rational folks see it. Like a wise man once told me, “you can’t reason with the unreasonable”.

2) I hear you. Just to sad that so many are so easily swayed by the lies. Propaganda is truly effective. And I’m not kind to that sort of tactic from BOTH sides. Which is why I try to search for unbiased coverage or at least look at coverage from both sides of the bias spectrum.

I still think he’s a buffoon, but he’s getting results that I believe are beneficial for America.

+1

I’m in the I don’t like Trump but love what he is doing for the country camp. For that reason I support Trump and his agenda for the most part.

+ another 1

Just to sad that so many are so easily swayed by the lies. Propaganda is truly effective.

We talking about MSM or Trump.
Trump is propaganda King. (Or Jester depending on the side of the fence one is standing on.)

And I’m not kind to that sort of tactic from BOTH sides. Which is why I try to search for unbiased coverage or at least look at coverage from both sides of the bias spectrum.

+ a 3rd one.

Hence discussion.

What about this "migrant" caravan?

What about this "migrant" caravan?

It has determined that leftist organization are behind the funding. I think the Dems thought it would work in their favor. But from what I have seen this caravan and their talking points has backfired on them. It appears that the majority of voters don’t want them to come into the country. Hence the conspiracy theory about the bombs being sent to Democrats. They want the attention to be turned away from the caravan disaster and the Kavanaugh debacle.

It's no a caravan, it's an invasion.  You don't seek asylum by coming here illegally and waving your countries flag that you're seeking asylum from.

There are multiple US offices to apply for asylum along the 2000 mile journey.  Why do they bypass all of them?  How are these people eating and drinking water as they walk the 2000 miles? 

Someone is funding this caravn to make Trump do something stupid.  82nd on their way to the border.

I know Trump promised to dismantle the ACA but he promised to keep the preexisting condition coverage. The problem as I understand it is that the lawsuit his administration filed would remove preexisting condition coverage.

Trump made grand promises about covering everyone, he certainly hasn't gotten that. He would have a hard time getting republicans to back him on that one of course but doesn't seem he has even tried. I wouldn't say the AHCA has done much though.

Is there a reason why you're focusing so much on the ACA?  He tried to nix it, but GOP didn't step up.  He also promised a wall, but that hasn't happened yet...or has it?

I do say that he is delivering on more of his campaign promises than most presidents do (jobs, N.Korea,  ISIS, etc...).  Or at least trying to deliver, again more than most presidents do.

I give him a lot of slack if he doesn't deliver because he is fighting the entire fake news organization and DNC.  And having almost little to no support or anyone from the GOP to stand up for him when he's being attacked.  This takes a strong leader.  Many would have either resigned or caved in and played ball.