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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1080 on: November 21, 2018, 09:54:59 AM »
I recall a report that Acosta accosted (or at least put his hands on) a female WH staff that was trying to get the mic back.  Wonder who Mazie would back up then. . .

I saw the video.  He did touch the woman, but it was with the back of his hand/arm as she was trying to grab the mike from in front of his mouth.  More like a brush away.  Like how if someone is standing in your way and you brush them aside. 



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drck1000

Re: Trump
« Reply #1081 on: November 21, 2018, 10:06:15 AM »
I saw the video.  He did touch the woman, but it was with the back of his hand/arm as she was trying to grab the mike from in front of his mouth.  More like a brush away.  Like how if someone is standing in your way and you brush them aside. 

SNIP

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If that was it, that wasn't anything.  From what I recall reading, it was a more forceful exchange. 

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1082 on: November 21, 2018, 10:11:58 AM »
If that was it, that wasn't anything.  From what I recall reading, it was a more forceful exchange.

To me the WH dropped the ball on the reason why they 86'd him.  They should have said due to unprofessional behavior.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1083 on: November 21, 2018, 11:24:43 AM »
Personally, I think the 5th amendment argument is BS as the WH determines who has a pass and who doesn’t. But the WH is following the judge’s order. They are also putting into place a certain set of rules/decorum for the press to follow so if Acosta et al decide not to abide by the rules then the WH can remove their credentials by going through the process put into place. In that way the WH could argue they went through the due process of removing his credentials if Acosta tries this shit again.

Acosta and a few others have turned our press into a circus. What a joke.  >:( >:( >:(

One of the first things a journalist used to learn in school was: don't make the story about you.

Acosta does nothing else but make every story about himself, either specifically or generally as part of "the press".

Most old time news celebs have come out criticizing him after his performance at that press conference. He's an attention-seeking asshat.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #1084 on: November 21, 2018, 12:39:11 PM »
I recall a report that Acosta accosted (or at least put his hands on) a female WH staff that was trying to get the mic back.  Wonder who Mazie would back up then. . .
The video shows his forearm knocking her hand/arm away from taking the mic. He didn’t technically put his hands on her. But contact was made. I agree that between his attitude that day and the contact he made with the woman he should have had his cedentials removed. Permanently. But for now, according to the courts, I am wrong.

Mazie would back up whoever hates trump the most.  :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Trump
« Reply #1085 on: November 21, 2018, 12:55:29 PM »
The video shows his forearm knocking her hand/arm away from taking the mic. He didn’t technically put his hands on her. But contact was made. I agree that between his attitude that day and the contact he made with the woman he should have had his cedentials removed. Permanently. But for now, according to the courts, I am wrong.

Mazie would back up whoever hates trump the most.  :rofl:
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Though US District Judge Timothy Kelly didn't rule on Friday on whether Acosta's constitutional rights had been violated, he held that revoking the pass had done "irreparable harm."

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-white-house-is-restoring-cnn-jim-acosta-press-pass-2018-11

"irreparable harm"?  Really?  To what?  Is ego and feelings?   ???

Being a asshole should be justification enough to revoke credentials.  I'm kidding of course, but somewhat serious. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1086 on: November 21, 2018, 07:57:16 PM »
How about the WH restores his press pass, but denies him entry on property?  Because if a judge rules he must be let on site, then shall all reporters be let on site for what ever reason?

I don't think that would stand because the end result is the same. The initial ruling did not sit grounds for anyone and everyone to demand a press pass, they only stated that revocation of an already issued press pass has to go through due process

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1087 on: November 21, 2018, 07:59:09 PM »
To me the WH dropped the ball on the reason why they 86'd him.  They should have said due to unprofessional behavior.

As I understand it, they still can. It's just that the White House has to go through some sort of process where he can appeal it.

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #1088 on: November 21, 2018, 08:01:56 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-white-house-is-restoring-cnn-jim-acosta-press-pass-2018-11

"irreparable harm"?  Really?  To what?  Is ego and feelings?   ???

Being a asshole should be justification enough to revoke credentials.  I'm kidding of course, but somewhat serious.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1089 on: November 26, 2018, 09:12:13 AM »
Saw on 1 site that Acosta was put in the back of the room at the PC.  But I don't trust the info to much on this site and was unable to verify via my other trusted sites.

Can anyone confirm?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1090 on: November 26, 2018, 11:26:49 AM »
Saw on 1 site that Acosta was put in the back of the room at the PC.  But I don't trust the info to much on this site and was unable to verify via my other trusted sites.

Can anyone confirm?

The seating chart for the press corps is publicly available. Last one I found was Jan 2018.  It's possible there is a revised chart for Jan 2019 that isn't in effect yet.

The chart is by affiliate name (FOX, CNN, etc), not by reporter names.  If they move CNN to the back, I'd laugh.  Good for them!  I imagine they'll do just enough game-playing to provoke Acosta into breaking the new decorum rules so they can finally get rid of him.  He likes to make the news about himself.  That's not why the 1st Amendment or the WH Press Corps exist.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1091 on: November 26, 2018, 01:19:37 PM »
The seating chart for the press corps is publicly available. Last one I found was Jan 2018.  It's possible there is a revised chart for Jan 2019 that isn't in effect yet.

The chart is by affiliate name (FOX, CNN, etc), not by reporter names.  If they move CNN to the back, I'd laugh.  Good for them!  I imagine they'll do just enough game-playing to provoke Acosta into breaking the new decorum rules so they can finally get rid of him.  He likes to make the news about himself.  That's not why the 1st Amendment or the WH Press Corps exist.

Acosta will be fine no matter how dumb he makes himself look in our eyes.  The DNC look after their own and love to hire those outspoken against Trump.  I hope the 2019 chart is revised and CNN put in the rear.  For this year, I hope they just don't call on him.

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1092 on: November 26, 2018, 07:55:51 PM »
Even if they put Acosta in the front, why does Trump (or why did Trump) call on Acosta to ask a question? To me, sounds like a set up on both sides.


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Tell you what, if the GOP retains the House in two weeks (currently at 35% odds), I'll stop saying anything bad about Trump, even after Mueller releases his post election findings.
It's not likely that Mueller will release his report until at least January 3rd when the 116th Congress begins.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1093 on: November 26, 2018, 10:06:45 PM »
Even if they put Acosta in the front, why does Trump (or why did Trump) call on Acosta to ask a question? To me, sounds like a set up on both sides.

It's not likely that Mueller will release his report until at least January 3rd when the 116th Congress begins.

There's a pecking order for WH press conferences.  To be respectful, they answer questions from the bigger media stations, then from the smaller ones if time allows.  Chances are, the questions asked will be similar anyway.  If they called on the smaller ones first, they'd never get to the big boys, which would be considered a major protocol violation, as if the WH is intentionally ignoring them.

Watch the pressers more often, and you'll see the people getting the most answers are the reporters from agencies that have the biggest audiences.  That's why FOX is always up in front -- their numbers are magnitudes above CNN.   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1094 on: November 27, 2018, 09:59:27 AM »
There's a pecking order for WH press conferences.  To be respectful, they answer questions from the bigger media stations, then from the smaller ones if time allows.  Chances are, the questions asked will be similar anyway.  If they called on the smaller ones first, they'd never get to the big boys, which would be considered a major protocol violation, as if the WH is intentionally ignoring them.

Watch the pressers more often, and you'll see the people getting the most answers are the reporters from agencies that have the biggest audiences.  That's why FOX is always up in front -- their numbers are magnitudes above CNN.   :thumbsup:
But I wonder why the WH cares about a major protocol violation with the WH press. I thought they were gonna get rid of the WH press back in the Spicer days, so why do they care if they piss off the press now. (rhetorical)

I watched an interview with Acosta that was a couple days before the confrontation about the difficulty of the press covering the Trump administration. He looked and sounded fed up with his job, kinda like he wasn't gonna take anymore of their shit. I wonder if the confrontation was a planned situation so Acosta could sell more memoir books on Amazon.


Changing topics. Apparently, all that GM has to do is replace the Cruz and others with cars that do sell. His leadership skills continue to astound me.  :P
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1095 on: November 27, 2018, 10:09:02 AM »
But I wonder why the WH cares about a major protocol violation with the WH press. I thought they were gonna get rid of the WH press back in the Spicer days, so why do they care if they piss off the press now. (rhetorical)

I watched an interview with Acosta that was a couple days before the confrontation about the difficulty of the press covering the Trump administration. He looked and sounded fed up with his job, kinda like he wasn't gonna take anymore of their shit. I wonder if the confrontation was a planned situation so Acosta could sell more memoir books on Amazon.


Changing topics. Apparently, all that GM has to do is replace the Cruz and others with cars that do sell. His leadership skills continue to astound me.  :P
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-on-hyde-smith-remarks-she-certainly-didn-t-mean-that-1380857923535?v=raila&

Acosta's job is to ask questions, report the facts to the public, and maybe do some research to "fluff up" the report with other information.

He's turned into a regular protestor, arguing with the answers he's given to his and other reporters' questions. If he wants to be a Resistance hackler, he should go.  He's not asking serious questions -- he's looking for a fight in front of the cameras.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1096 on: November 27, 2018, 10:12:25 AM »
Acosta's job is to ask questions, report the facts to the public, and maybe do some research to "fluff up" the report with other information.

He's turned into a regular protestor, arguing with the answers he's given to his and other reporters' questions. If he wants to be a Resistance hackler, he should go.  He's not asking serious questions -- he's looking for a fight in front of the cameras.
Probably. Now he'll hang out in the back of the press room like a wounded animal. This way he can focus on his memoirs and still be paid by CNN.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1097 on: November 27, 2018, 11:35:23 AM »
Acosta's job is to ask questions, report the facts to the public, and maybe do some research to "fluff up" the report with other information.

He's turned into a regular protestor, arguing with the answers he's given to his and other reporters' questions. If he wants to be a Resistance hackler, he should go.  He's not asking serious questions -- he's looking for a fight in front of the cameras.

^^^This, looking to make someone say something the fake news can use.  I give Spicer, Sarah, and anyone else a lot of credit to have to play "clean up" with the press.

Interesting how not 1 feminist group has come forward to defend with the way the media and others treat any of Trumps senior official female picks.  That's how you know feminist are balogne. #MeToo

aieahound

Re: Trump
« Reply #1098 on: November 27, 2018, 03:59:51 PM »
General Motors to lay off 14,000 workers.
14 Thousand
I'm not saying it's anyone's fault (other than the brass at GM. GM says they're jumping the curve), but Trump didn't see this coming.
Hopefully he comes up with another win.
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Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #1099 on: November 27, 2018, 04:52:38 PM »
General Motors to lay off 14,000 workers.
14 Thousand
I'm not saying it's anyone's fault (other than the brass at GM. GM says they're jumping the curve), but Trump didn't see this coming.
Hopefully he comes up with another win.
You do realize some of the fault (and I stress only some) is due to the Bush/Obama era bailout? Part of the agreement of the bailout was that the Government provide a $7,500 incentive for the Volt to spark (pun intended) sales. The Volt was not only a dismal failure in sales, but they lost a lot of money for every Volt they sold. All the bailout did was provide huge salaries and retirement for the upper management but the biggest thing it did was to prolong the inevitable bankruptcy and restructuring and now another restructuring and closing of manufacturing plants. If the government had let GM and Chrysler fail, we would have gone into a much worse recession for a much shorter period of time. But GM would have come out of the recession/bankruptcy leaner, meaner and more profitable. The bailout just allowed GM to continue as a bloated company while the GM brass took huge salaries. JMHO

You can also blame the economy (Trump?) for some of GM’s woes. Cheap gas is hurting sales of their economy cars and increasing sales of SUV’s and trucks. GM being such a behemoth that it doesn’t respond quickly to the change in customer sales choices. Which means they will probably stop selling cheap economy cars and build up production of trucks and SUV’s and then when gas prices rise they will be caught with car lots filled with gas guzzlers. But as you pointed out this is really the fault of the GM brass.

No company is too big to fail and our Bush/Obama led government should have never offered them a bailout. We (us taxpayers) lost $11.3B on the GM bailout. Personally, I don’t think it was worth it because a poorly run company is still going to be poorly run after you infuse them with cash. The government did nothing to force them to reorganize before the bankruptcy and force the GM management to take massive pay cuts until they pay back the bailout completely. GM is restructuring because they are behind the curve in R&D and they are not making economy cars that Americans want. Ford has restructured already. And BTW, even though Ford took bailout money, they didn’t need it. They had already restructured when the bailout occurred. Ford manages their company properly. I don’t even want to begin talking about Chrysler.
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