Trump (Read 583889 times)

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1280 on: December 31, 2018, 09:00:52 AM »
He also ...

Signed the VA Accountability Act and expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
rolled back a large number of regulations on small business created by Obama, and implemented the "make one, remove two" Executive Order for new regulations
Used the Congressional Regulatory Review Act to repeal more regulations than at any time in history
abolished the ACA fine/tax for not carrying healthcare coverage
economic growth at historic levels
brought back jobs from overseas/Mexico
unemployment claims at 50 year low
median income at highest level since the recession started
poverty rate for African-Americans & Hispanic Americans at lowest level ever recorded
Confidence of small businesses, manufacturers, and consumers at record highs
over $450B has flowed back into the US which businesses had "parked" in offshore banks
is not taking his salary -- donates it to a select agency each quarter
Biggest tax cuts and reforms in US history
over 100 utility companies have lowered electric, gas or water rates due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act
More US Circuit Court judges appointed than ever before
Appointed TWO Supreme Court Justices (and counting?)
Secured $1.6 billion for border wall construction in the March 2018 omnibus bill.
Withdrew US from Obama's commitment to the Paris Accord "Climate Change Scam"
All but destroyed ISIS -- All Iraqi territories are now freed from ISIS occupation/control
Cleared the way for construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline
Cleared the way for the Dakota Pipeline construction
Moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, which the last 3 presidents promised to do
Opened AK National Wildlife Refuge to energy exploration
Withdrew from the Iran Nuclear deal
Historic summit with N. Korea -- ending Korean War
Largest military pay raise in almost 10 years
Increased military budget to $700B in FY 2018, and $716B in FY 2019
Those are  just the highlights.  Here's a list that was published last October if you care to get a better feel for the magnitude of Trump's successes in less that than 2 years.
Get a beverage and make yourself comfortable .... it's a VERY long list ......
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping
Any competent Republican President could do these things. Hell, I bet Pence could easily double the list of accomplishments. My point is that he shoots himself in the foot every fucking day, and I expect it to get worse in 2019 with the Dems in charge of the House. I anticipate that the Dems will nominate a democratic socialist so an easy win for Trump, but he'll lose the Senate and then he's screwed. Just get it over with, hand over the office to the VP and let's have fun.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1281 on: December 31, 2018, 09:06:38 AM »
For someone in the position of the president, talking is doing. So much of his job is talking you can't really separate out the two.

So when he claims he gave the military the only pay raise in 10 years but his statement is false, why does he get credit for "doing" that? Or does that false statement just get discounted because it was talking and not doing?

There are many things Trump has done, some good, some bad. It isn't an all or nothing type thing. I am neither a supporter or a hater because I don't fall into that false dichotomy. He gets credit from me when he says/does something good and he gets criticism from me when he says/does something bad.

I think that every politician is never 100% correct.  Especially with the net and how people can now "fact check" now days.  But what is greater is how the fake news rarely reports anything positive about what POTUS has done, just nit picking at all his failures or tweets that may not be 100% true.  Even with the bills or XO's he signed, I do not agree with every single one.  But again, he is doing more than the previous POTUS has done.

CNN reported that when he refers to "witch hunt" it offends witches.  TDS at it's finest.

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1282 on: January 02, 2019, 01:31:20 AM »
How is this 3D chess?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/opinions/now-trump-is-at-war-with-the-generals-bergen/index.html

"But when you step back, the degree to which Trump is battling America's generals is startling, considering how he began his presidency. Trump came into office besotted by military brass, appointing retired four star Gen. James Mattis as his secretary of defense, retired four star Gen. John Kelly as his secretary of homeland security and later chief of staff, and retired three star Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn as his national security adviser. After Flynn was forced out of the White House, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster assumed the role of national security adviser.
Now, two years later, Trump is eager to tear down the generals."
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1283 on: January 02, 2019, 09:02:56 AM »
How is this 3D chess?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/opinions/now-trump-is-at-war-with-the-generals-bergen/index.html

"But when you step back, the degree to which Trump is battling America's generals is startling, considering how he began his presidency. Trump came into office besotted by military brass, appointing retired four star Gen. James Mattis as his secretary of defense, retired four star Gen. John Kelly as his secretary of homeland security and later chief of staff, and retired three star Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn as his national security adviser. After Flynn was forced out of the White House, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster assumed the role of national security adviser.
Now, two years later, Trump is eager to tear down the generals."

Don't the generals rotate anyways after so many years?

From what I understand how he operates his entire staff, is most are brought in for a specific job/issue to tackle.  Once it's done, they're out and he finds someone else who can tackle the next issue.  They are aware of this when the job offer is made and they take it.  Or if they fail, they're "fired".

This is how he ran his businesses for the past 30 years and no longer is someone holding a job title and not performing.

So you can look at this method as good or bad, I think it's good.  People either do their job or he finds someone who will.  I hope term limits for senators were the same.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1284 on: January 02, 2019, 02:25:34 PM »
How is this 3D chess?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/opinions/now-trump-is-at-war-with-the-generals-bergen/index.html

"But when you step back, the degree to which Trump is battling America's generals is startling, considering how he began his presidency. Trump came into office besotted by military brass, appointing retired four star Gen. James Mattis as his secretary of defense, retired four star Gen. John Kelly as his secretary of homeland security and later chief of staff, and retired three star Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn as his national security adviser. After Flynn was forced out of the White House, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster assumed the role of national security adviser.
Now, two years later, Trump is eager to tear down the generals."

Did you miss the part of that "news article" that says "OPINIONS?"

If you like your fake news, you can keep your fake news.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1285 on: January 02, 2019, 10:14:21 PM »
 :crazy:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-would-have-made-a-good-general-while-trashing-mattis-2019-1

Technically, Mattis resigned with a very pointed letter, then Trump "fired" him. I guess that's how most of Trump's employees are "rotated".  :shake:   :rofl:
« Last Edit: January 02, 2019, 11:02:57 PM by rklapp »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1286 on: January 03, 2019, 12:45:30 AM »
:crazy:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-would-have-made-a-good-general-while-trashing-mattis-2019-1

Technically, Mattis resigned with a very pointed letter, then Trump "fired" him. I guess that's how most of Trump's employees are "rotated".  :shake:   :rofl:

Yeah.  This is something new with Trump -- and worse than any other President before him.

Right?

Did the Media Care When Obama Fired General Mattis?

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Defense secretaries come and go.  President Obama had four of them in eight years, who had some
unkind things to say about his leadership or lack of it.  There was no talk of chaos or of the only adult
in the room leaving.

Suddenly, the media are in a meltdown after "Mad Dog" Mattis announced his departure from the
Cabinet after President Trump announced our departure from Syria.

Democrats who won't defend our southern border and who slept as Obama drew red lines with
vanishing ink worry about an ISIS Obama created by a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq regaining
strength and reforming in Syria and Iraq.  The general Obama fired is suddenly a man of principle
whose leadership was indispensable:

House Speaker-designate Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said she was "shaken and "concerned". "General
Mattis was a comfort to many who were concerned about the path the Trump Admin would choose to take.
 His resignation letter is defined by statements of principle – principles that drove him to leave the
Administration. All of us should be concerned at this time."


Mattis is probably more hawkish than Trump as well.  Mattis and Trump disagree on strategy.  Obama and
Mattis disagreed on goals and consequences.  While a liberal uproar greeted the former, utter silence
greeted the latter.

No doubt, our Syrian withdrawal was a factor in Mattis's decision.  I don't agree with it, but to compare it with
Obama's withdrawal from Iraq when he snatched defeat from George W. Bush's victory, as many conservatives
are doing, is a tad disingenuous.

President Trump destroyed the ISIS caliphate as originally constituted in Syria and Iraq.  Obama watched it
grow and facilitated its growth through inaction and indifference.  ISIS is a cancer that has spread but is currently
in remission. If it comes back in force, we can deal with it.  But it is not dangerous isolationism for Trump to consider
Iran the main threat and to focus on it.

It is Iran that wants its nukes to be an existential threat to Israel, Europe, and the United States.  It is Iran that is
trying to build a corridor of terror from Tehran through Syria and Iraq to its Hezb'allah puppets in Lebanon.

Iran is the head of the snake.  Syria and ISIS are the tail.  Strike at the head, and you kill the snake.  President
Trump is doing that by nixing Obama's nuclear deal and reimposing sanctions, including prohibitions on Iranian
oil exports.  That, arguably, is a better way to deal with a very real threat than chasing random jihadis through the
Syrian desert.

Critics of our Syrian withdrawal forget that under President Trump, American-backed forces liberated the ISIS
capital of Raqqa.  They forget the hundreds of Russian mercenaries killed in clashes with U.S. forces.  They forget
the cruise missile strikes against Syrian targets under the nose of Vladimir Putin.  Trump's moves in Syria were
hardly under a white flag.

Obama, by contrast, didn't want to win anywhere and waged his own war against the U.S. military, purging it of
generals, admirals, and commanders who dare to talk of victory.  President Obama began a military purge not
dissimilar to those routinely conducted by third-world despots, with the goal of eliminating voices that might oppose
his withdrawing from the world stage.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/did_the_media_care_when_obama_fired_general_mattis.html
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1287 on: January 04, 2019, 01:37:25 PM »
Interview outside of the WH.  Asked if Trump can declare a national emergency and get funding for a wall and bypass congress.  He could if he wanted to.  But he said he wanted to negotiate with the DNC 1st. 

RSN172

Re: Trump
« Reply #1288 on: January 05, 2019, 07:05:24 PM »
I am not going to look through all 65 pages to see if this was posted before, but I just came across this gem.  There is a thing called Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason. Symptoms ...range from hysterical outbursts to a complete mental breakdown.

Sufferers have also been known to wish direct self harm on themselves (such as increased taxes, a desire for an economic recession, and even nuclear war), provided that the action might in some way hurt Donald Trump.

Thought that was pretty funny.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1289 on: January 06, 2019, 09:57:14 AM »
I am not going to look through all 65 pages to see if this was posted before, but I just came across this gem.  There is a thing called Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason. Symptoms ...range from hysterical outbursts to a complete mental breakdown.

Sufferers have also been known to wish direct self harm on themselves (such as increased taxes, a desire for an economic recession, and even nuclear war), provided that the action might in some way hurt Donald Trump.

Thought that was pretty funny.
Yeah this was mentioned. But totally understand the not reading 65 pages.

TDS is no joke and exist. It started as a joke, but now damn.  Most recentlly, he called for an exit in syria and a-stan and libs wanted our guys to stay in country.

Im believing more he could cure cancer and libs would have a problem.

On a side note, legal immigtant cop killed by illegal deported 2x with a gun in CA. Not 1 dem is calling for gun control or little to no comments by them.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1290 on: January 07, 2019, 10:25:17 PM »
I think that every politician is never 100% correct.  Especially with the net and how people can now "fact check" now days.  But what is greater is how the fake news rarely reports anything positive about what POTUS has done, just nit picking at all his failures or tweets that may not be 100% true.  Even with the bills or XO's he signed, I do not agree with every single one.  But again, he is doing more than the previous POTUS has done.

CNN reported that when he refers to "witch hunt" it offends witches.  TDS at it's finest.

Oh absolutely I think very few if any ever come close to a perfect score for correctness. We should always look at politicians with a certain margin for understandable error/benefit of the doubt. I don't thing Trump gets enough of that at all.

Doing more in and of itself is not really a good measure. A president could do more but do lots of bad things and that wouldn't mean he is succeeding of course. His being very active shows that at least he isn't lazy. I am a bit skeptical of some of his executive orders, I think he may be moving in the wrong direction with regards to the environment (not just global warming but pollution and animal protection as well). I think he has done a number of things right with executive orders as well though. There really are no presidents who are just all bad or all good.

I wonder if a lack of coverage of positive items is as much Trump's fault as it is the medias. We all know that bad deeds get way more attention than good deeds so even when Trump succeeds his failures/stupid comments are just naturally going to get more attention. Not really fair but it is the way the world works.

Many of the things Trump has said and done worry me from an ethical aspect, not just an honesty aspect. I don't care if Trump claims he had the biggest crowd at the inauguration when you include the internet, it was kinda dumb but inconsequential and sure, the media looks silly when it makes it a huge story. But certain other comments/suggestions Trump has made should worry any constitutionalist at some level. When it comes to that I think criticism of him by the media is much more fair.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1291 on: January 08, 2019, 09:59:02 AM »

Doing more in and of itself is not really a good measure. A president could do more but do lots of bad things and that wouldn't mean he is succeeding of course. His being very active shows that at least he isn't lazy. I am a bit skeptical of some of his executive orders, I think he may be moving in the wrong direction with regards to the environment (not just global warming but pollution and animal protection as well). I think he has done a number of things right with executive orders as well though. There really are no presidents who are just all bad or all good.

I wonder if a lack of coverage of positive items is as much Trump's fault as it is the medias. We all know that bad deeds get way more attention than good deeds so even when Trump succeeds his failures/stupid comments are just naturally going to get more attention. Not really fair but it is the way the world works.

Many of the things Trump has said and done worry me from an ethical aspect, not just an honesty aspect. I don't care if Trump claims he had the biggest crowd at the inauguration when you include the internet, it was kinda dumb but inconsequential and sure, the media looks silly when it makes it a huge story. But certain other comments/suggestions Trump has made should worry any constitutionalist at some level. When it comes to that I think criticism of him by the media is much more fair.

For the environment, it all depends what your beliefs are.  We have lots of oil in our nation and nearby oceans.  But due to tree huggers, have been prevented from drilling.  Hence buying from the middle east.  So increased prices and less jobs and supporting other nations.  Same concept for the straw ban in CA and like laws.  Because yes banning straws will save the environment.  Instead lets cut down more trees to make the paper straws.  I could care less, the environment will be fine.  I'm sure the Paris Accord will disagree.

I think its 100% the media's fault for spreading the fake news due to their party affiliation and trying to make ratings.  Imagine how much more support he would have if they did more fair reporting.  How much more stuff would have been done.  Because many old timers (my parents) only watch whats on the 6 oclock world news so of course they don't like Trump.

I do worry about the comments made by Trump and the 2A and his working with the bump stock ban.  So no one can say that I support 100% of the things he does.  Barry never took any guns or gun parts out of anyones hands.  Gun Free zones yes, but not actual parts.  Just where you can and cannot take the guns.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1292 on: January 09, 2019, 10:45:56 AM »
Read an interesting gypsie fortune teller that predicted BREXIT, ISIS, 9/11 and other like things.

She commented that Trump will get sick in 2019 leaving him deaf and with brain trauma.  And no one can figure out what the illness or how he got it.

Mega tsunami like the one in 2004 will hit Asia again and huge meteor in Russia.  All this year.

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1293 on: January 09, 2019, 02:44:41 PM »
Read an interesting gypsie fortune teller that predicted BREXIT, ISIS, 9/11 and other like things.

She commented that Trump will get sick in 2019 leaving him deaf and with brain trauma.  And no one can figure out what the illness or how he got it.

Mega tsunami like the one in 2004 will hit Asia again and huge meteor in Russia.  All this year.
I call bullshit. How much you wanna bet?

And show me the source of the exact quote and date of her prediction of 9/11.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1294 on: January 09, 2019, 05:13:36 PM »
I call bullshit. How much you wanna bet?

And show me the source of the exact quote and date of her prediction of 9/11.
Like i said gypsie fortune teller. Just found it an entertaining read.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1295 on: January 09, 2019, 08:03:58 PM »
Students Hate Trump's Immigration Quotes…

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1296 on: January 09, 2019, 08:47:42 PM »
Like i said gypsie fortune teller. Just found it an entertaining read.
Yeah, right. She died in 1996. In 1989 she said  "Horror, horror! The American brothers will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing."

These are of the same "quality" as the "predictions" of Nostradamus, which are so vague and ambiguous they can be interpreted to mean almost anything.

Unfortunately the Brit tabloid article doesn't even give the supposed quote (from the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s?) from her predicting the Donald Trump will go deaf from an undiagnosable disease in 2019. LIke I said, I call bullshit.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/blind-mystic-baba-vanga-who-13715567

Here, let me guess: "The once mighty hedgehog will be forced underground where it will not hear a thing." I'm pretty sure that would prove it.

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1297 on: January 10, 2019, 07:30:32 AM »

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #1298 on: January 10, 2019, 08:25:46 AM »
I call bullshit. How much you wanna bet?
And show me the source of the exact quote and date of her prediction of 9/11.
She’ll tell you if you give your credit card number.
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1299 on: January 10, 2019, 09:52:30 AM »
She’ll tell you if you give your credit card number.

And social and DOB so she can predict your fortune.