Wild Wild West! Me thinks inside job or someone who knows them...........

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/01/01/breaking-news/kumu-hula-former-miss-hawaii-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-mililani-home/

these guys pretty brazen, doing em on new years eve, and when they know people are likely to be home.  Smart in a way too cause the fireworks noise and hpd responding to nuisance call provide cover.

“He kept pushing the gun up against my head,” she recalled, adding that the man confronting her called her aunty but gestured to the bangs of fireworks outside and said: “You see that? No one will know the difference (between the sound of fireworks and a gunshot). We have no problem to shoot you. Don’t play dumb. This is not a random robbery.”

Sad to say, but the criminal is right.  At the point that they have guns pointed at everyone's head and making demands is not the time to be attempting to resist.   On the bright side, I'm sure all those firearms are properly registered and the criminals in the rapback system for identification later /sarcasm

So the gunman just admitted there is some relationship with them and the owners.  And they even knew when there will be no males home. 

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husband was home, but outside.  Could be inside job, insurance scam, etc.  I'd imagine that it could easily just be an acquaintance, and that the family is "famous" and it's pretty well known that they have plenty jewelry.  Like rappers wearing thick chains and diamond grills, but hawaii style.  If you flaunt it, you'll attract attention.

A good lesson for many people of this forum that have valuable collections.  If you don't want to get a 'big dog' invest in an alarm system or at least a security camera that will send you an alert - here's a new entry in the marketplace that's getting good reviews: https://www.amazon.com/WyzeCam-Wireless-Camera-Vision-Android/dp/B076H3SRXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514920447&sr=8-1&keywords=wyze+cam

All for the price of a couple of boxes of ammo.

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husband was home, but outside.  Could be inside job, insurance scam, etc.  I'd imagine that it could easily just be an acquaintance, and that the family is "famous" and it's pretty well known that they have plenty jewelry.  Like rappers wearing thick chains and diamond grills, but hawaii style.  If you flaunt it, you'll attract attention.

i noticed in the tv interview the former miss hawaii had on a designer diamond/platinum ring on. i cant remember the brand right now (chanel?) but its very expensive, i only recognized it because my friend has the same ring and its 5 figures. i guess they didnt learn not to flash valuables.

A good lesson for many people of this forum that have valuable collections.  If you don't want to get a 'big dog' invest in an alarm system or at least a security camera that will send you an alert - here's a new entry in the marketplace that's getting good reviews: https://www.amazon.com/WyzeCam-Wireless-Camera-Vision-Android/dp/B076H3SRXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514920447&sr=8-1&keywords=wyze+cam

All for the price of a couple of boxes of ammo.

they did have a 'security system' according to the news. they mentioned that they are looking into adding to the system whatever that means. guessing they only had window breakage sensors or didnt turn on the whole home alarm while they were home, i did read that they usually leave the backdoor unlocked.

they did have a 'security system' according to the news. they mentioned that they are looking into adding to the system whatever that means. guessing they only had window breakage sensors or didnt turn on the whole home alarm while they were home, i did read that they usually leave the backdoor unlocked.

Even their new "security" system would almost be useless againt's 4 guys with guns.  It would be more for after the fact, but if they're wearing mask, then still useless.

they did have a 'security system' according to the news. they mentioned that they are looking into adding to the system whatever that means. guessing they only had window breakage sensors or didnt turn on the whole home alarm while they were home, i did read that they usually leave the backdoor unlocked.

My impression is they only have alarms that monitor for break-ins when they are away or asleep.  Upgrades would normally be to add security company monitoring, cameras and panic buttons.

My impression is they only have alarms that monitor for break-ins when they are away or asleep.  Upgrades would normally be to add security company monitoring, cameras and panic buttons.

They're probably looking now for a handgun safety class.

I'm sure its a typical residential install with away/stay modes.

Like others have said, basically useless against armed, masked assailants.

I've got "Smart" cameras that alert you to movement/etc, but its only use to me is for after-the-fact and not to catch someone in the act.

Iwalani Tseu was my daughter’s Kumu hula back in the late 80’s. At that time their home was by the Rec center on Anania Drive but don’t know if they still live there. Something fishy bout the whole incident. One of the scumbags even called one of them “aunty” (maybe nothing though since everyone calls everyone else aunty or uncle). Too bad cuz back then she was a really nice lady though the years and her success might have changed her. Hawaii is turning into the mainland. So sad... 

Iwalani Tseu was my daughter’s Kumu hula back in the late 80’s. At that time their home was by the Rec center on Anania Drive but don’t know if they still live there. Something fishy bout the whole incident. One of the scumbags even called one of them “aunty” (maybe nothing though since everyone calls everyone else aunty or uncle). Too bad cuz back then she was a really nice lady though the years and her success might have changed her. Hawaii is turning into the mainland. So sad... 

likely the same house
I heard from a friend that they have frequent large parties there

Meanwhile in NC, they caught the 3 crumbs that invaded Richard Childress home. Their Sheriff credited God and the 2nd amendment.
Our LE need to recognize the same

Iwalani Tseu was my daughter’s Kumu hula back in the late 80’s. At that time their home was by the Rec center on Anania Drive but don’t know if they still live there. Something fishy bout the whole incident. One of the scumbags even called one of them “aunty” (maybe nothing though since everyone calls everyone else aunty or uncle). Too bad cuz back then she was a really nice lady though the years and her success might have changed her. Hawaii is turning into the mainland. So sad... 

Friend said its by Hanalani.

Friend said its by Hanalani.

Ok now it comes back to me.... knew it was close by... I can walk there in 15 minutes...

alarm system would be useless when the residents are already home and the burglers come in through an open screen door. Normally protects against actual break ins.  And even if the alarm did go off because they detected a breakin, wont the thieves just force the homeowner to disable it?  Even if the alarm auto notified HPD it was triggered, criminals would be long gone by the time the cops finished their coffee break.

They should count themselves lucky that they were "only" burglars and not rapists or killers.

alarm system would be useless when the residents are already home and the burglers come in through an open screen door. Normally protects against actual break ins.  And even if the alarm did go off because they detected a breakin, wont the thieves just force the homeowner to disable it?  Even if the alarm auto notified HPD it was triggered, criminals would be long gone by the time the cops finished their coffee break.

They should count themselves lucky that they were "only" burglars and not rapists or killers.

There are all kinds of options available.  You could have a panic button to call for medical help.  If you have monitoring and cameras, the security service could receive the silent panic button alarm, bring up your video, and contact the police to let them know there is a home invasion in progress.  They may also call the contact numbers on file, including the husband out "tinkering."  He's already on scene, so that would be useful. 

That assumes the thugs don't know about the cameras and disable them.  Even so, the monitoring company could access saved footage and see what happened up to the point the cameras were taken out.

People with shotguns and wearing ski masks would be a sure tip-off there's something going on the police should be alerted to.

You plan for as many scenarios as you can foresee (and afford to mitigate), and hope for the best.

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IDK, having "big cousin" on the other end of the monitoring could open yourself to other types of privacy abuses.... And in a case where you dont have time to run and manually trigger the alarm, they'd have to already be monitoriing your house, and the alarm would have to be active in the first place (who leaves a motion detector on while they're home)?

What would you do in this situation if you had your handgun on you and you were in her situation not knowing the outcome?  Risk being murdered like that North shore case or fighting it out against 4 gunmen with a hostage.

That is a tough choice to make.