Might get into reloading (Read 44099 times)

macsak

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #80 on: March 02, 2018, 08:57:52 AM »

No, you guessing because of the pattern on the target? 


yeah, lefties tend to pull to the right

shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #81 on: March 02, 2018, 09:11:26 AM »
wow
105 yrs old?
And I plan to continue to shoot the snot out of it  :P.  I've become quite the bubba gunsmith on this little guy out of necessity and frugality (the pake-ness runs deep) and am confident I can keep her running short of the frame cracking.

rklapp

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #82 on: March 02, 2018, 09:18:07 AM »
I've been meaning to go to a meeting.

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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #83 on: March 02, 2018, 09:22:46 AM »
yeah, lefties tend to pull to the right

I hate to blame the gun, but its definitely a bit my fault as well.  I usually hit high left when missing.  Its a very thin piece and has a trigger bar that goes around the mag to trip the sear.  Unfortunately, my trigger to frame fitment went south somewhere 75 years ago and shes a bit loose (read: it jingles like a cowboys spurs while holstered and walking, sometimes)  there.  I annoyingly get some play in all directions in the trigger causing me to push, or more likely pull shots.  Next time I have the gun apart I vow to get her tightened up but shes a real pain in the ass to reassemble.

oldfart

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2018, 09:26:58 AM »
And I plan to continue to shoot the snot out of it  :P.  I've become quite the bubba gunsmith on this little guy out of necessity and frugality (the pake-ness runs deep) and am confident I can keep her running short of the frame cracking.
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you were shooting at kokohead 25 yards?
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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2018, 09:40:03 AM »
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you were shooting at kokohead 25 yards?

Yea, I really wish I could shoot a bit closer to the target, but I'll take what I can get.  I dont think the indoor ranges let you shoot reloads (I never inquired about X-ring)  I'm so intimidated with all you seasoned pros shooting one-handed out to the 50.  Only maybe 4 of those shots were supported and those ones did not hit center.

oldfart

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2018, 09:57:04 AM »
Yea, I really wish I could shoot a bit closer to the target, but I'll take what I can get.  I dont think the indoor ranges let you shoot reloads (I never inquired about X-ring)  I'm so intimidated with all you seasoned pros shooting one-handed out to the 50.  Only maybe 4 of those shots were supported and those ones did not hit center.
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you know that gun wasn't meant to be target shooting past 10 or 15 yards so you doing pretty darn good at 25. :thumbsup:

carry on

and by the way, I don't shoot at 50 yards ever...and certainly not 1 handed :rofl:
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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2018, 10:18:56 AM »
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you know that gun wasn't meant to be target shooting past 10 or 15 yards so you doing pretty darn good at 25. :thumbsup:

carry on

and by the way, I don't shoot at 50 yards ever...and certainly not 1 handed :rofl:
It certainly was not meant as a target pistol, thats for sure.  These sights are guesswork at best and the front sight is polished blue steel so it almost disappears in indirect sunlight (like at the range, lol)


I'm fairly certain it was mean to be shot one-handed in a point-and-shoot fashion, after you whipped it out of your breast pocket in a dimly-lit card room in the back of an italian restaurant. 

If you have old firearms, its kind of fun to look up all the old advertisements.

Ah, the good ol' days.

Mr. Farknocker

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #88 on: March 02, 2018, 02:03:31 PM »
What bullet/brass/primer/powder load did you settle on for your 32 reloads?

I'll have to check my little black book for the top-secret-.5 MOA-at-2-yards combo but for starters, I use a .75 gr SWC bullet from a custom Lee mold that I found on eBay. I originally pm'd you and said it was 77 gr. but from the looks of the mold, it appears to be 75 gr. I'll have to double check the actual as-cast weight.



Mr. Farknocker

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2018, 02:16:53 PM »
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you know that gun wasn't meant to be target shooting past 10 or 15 yards so you doing pretty darn good at 25. :thumbsup:

carry on

and by the way, I don't shoot at 50 yards ever...and certainly not 1 handed :rofl:

Both of the 32 ACPs are lousy shots. Neither of them shoot with any degree of accuracy at 25 yards. Not even reasonable accuracy.  I could take my Glock, point it at the target and close my eyes and still shoot better with it than my little 32s. It could be my fault, the reloads or a combo of these two factors but I'm leaning toward the idea that these guns weren't designed to shoot accurately beyond 5-7 yards. The short sight radius and virtually non-existent front/rear sight don't help either.  IMO, they are still good concealed carry weapons, however, since pin point accuracy is less of a factor in a SD situation.

shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2018, 02:21:36 PM »
It does 6 at a time!  All the ones available from the usual suppliers are 2-fers which really put me off on the idea. 

Another reason why I'm a bit averse to casting my own lead is, I'm paranoid about lead.  Casting seems like its going to involve me being exposed to airborne lead, lead particles all over the place where I cast, lead on my clothing, and lead absorbed through my skin through normal manipulation of the product.  I've got two little ones and during my wifes pregnancies (and while trying), I was pretty meticulous about wearing gloves while handling unjacketed ammunition, changing clothes, and washing up after shooting.  Probably overkill, but hey, my kids have all their fingers and toes  :D

Have any of you lead casters have your lead levels checked in your blood?  Am I being too paranoid?

rklapp

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #91 on: March 02, 2018, 02:26:06 PM »
I use a lead test kit from Amazon to test the surfaces with no significant levels found but I purchase my boolits, not cast them. Children are ten times more susceptible to lead poisoning than adults so I think your fears are founded.
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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2018, 02:34:41 PM »
Both of the 32 ACPs are lousy shots. Neither of them shoot with any degree of accuracy at 25 yards. Not even reasonable accuracy.  I could take my Glock, point it at the target and close my eyes and still shoot better with it than my little 32s. It could be my fault, the reloads or a combo of these two factors but I'm leaning toward the idea that these guns weren't designed to shoot accurately beyond 5-7 yards. The short sight radius and virtually non-existent front/rear sight don't help either.  IMO, they are still good concealed carry weapons, however, since pin point accuracy is less of a factor in a SD situation.
I dont know how many 32s you have, but you talking about your 1903?  I can ring steel with mine almost as often as I can with my G17 which also isnt a precision piece.  Check out the barrel on my 1903 - its a miracle I can hit anything  :rofl:

But yea, I do not own a gun that is more comfortable to wear than this one.  If it was ever used in a defensive situation, it would be up very close I'm sure.

shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2018, 03:08:03 PM »
I also ran into an issue of getting too cocky and trying to go fast in the final crimp and resize.  The one on the left you can see the bullet is seated deeper, but no adjustments were made to the die.  If you look at the bullet, its got a nice ding in the top from not being seated fully in the shell holder and banging on the edge of the crimp die as the ram was being raised. 

Will it make my gun go kaboom from being seated too deeply and crazy pressures or should I just pop it off?  I was worried about crimping too much and the pressure being too high in the case, but after I pulled the factory S&B bullet, which was MEGA ULTRA TURBO crimped, it eased my fears.  The S&B factory round is FMJ and its crimped so tightly that it creases the jacket and swages the round down to almost a thousandth thinner than the Berrys bullet.  Perhaps this is why people claim the ammo feels hotter?

macsak

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2018, 04:36:20 PM »
I also ran into an issue of getting too cocky and trying to go fast in the final crimp and resize.  The one on the left you can see the bullet is seated deeper, but no adjustments were made to the die.  If you look at the bullet, its got a nice ding in the top from not being seated fully in the shell holder and banging on the edge of the crimp die as the ram was being raised. 

Will it make my gun go kaboom from being seated too deeply and crazy pressures or should I just pop it off?  I was worried about crimping too much and the pressure being too high in the case, but after I pulled the factory S&B bullet, which was MEGA ULTRA TURBO crimped, it eased my fears.  The S&B factory round is FMJ and its crimped so tightly that it creases the jacket and swages the round down to almost a thousandth thinner than the Berrys bullet.  Perhaps this is why people claim the ammo feels hotter?

DO NOT fire the one that is seated too deeply

oldfart

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2018, 05:36:27 PM »
DO NOT fire the one that is seated too deeply
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Yeah, knock it out with your puller.
I'm not sure how that happens.
Try check the flare on the case. I saw a pic of some of your smashed cases.
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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2018, 09:33:04 PM »
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Yeah, knock it out with your puller.
I'm not sure how that happens.
Try check the flare on the case. I saw a pic of some of your smashed cases.

Thanks guys, was going to err on the side of caution anyhow. 

That pic wasn't mine oldfart, it happened but I think it's because the flare die was getting gunked with brass dust and lube forcing the case to enter the die crooked.

The seat too deep happened while final crimping.  The round wasn't fully in the Shell holder and I smashed the bugger into the side of the die.

oldfart

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #97 on: March 02, 2018, 09:42:36 PM »
Thanks guys, was going to err on the side of caution anyhow. 

That pic wasn't mine oldfart, it happened but I think it's because the flare die was getting gunked with brass dust and lube forcing the case to enter the die crooked.

The seat too deep happened while final crimping.  The round wasn't fully in the Shell holder and I smashed the bugger into the side of the die.
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OK then
So what you going to try next? 357?  44?
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shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2018, 09:49:03 PM »
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OK then
So what you going to try next? 357?  44?

Yea prob work on 357 but I'm going to just order dies for both.  Lol I'll just order 45 Colt too why not.  Tumbler coming soon and I finally dug out the brass.

Im addicted.

shdws

Re: Might get into reloading
« Reply #99 on: March 12, 2018, 04:17:22 PM »
oldfart tells me the nickel plated cases wont last long - too bad, I've got so many of those, grrr :rofl:

First batch is going to attempt to replicate 38+p in mag cases, starting at the recommended top end load for a 38+p in a 38spl case.  Apparently these plated Xtreme bullets have been known to handle at or near full mag pressures, but I'm not going to push these, and just use them as plinkers.

Only thing I'm a bit curious on with these is the crimp.  For full mag loads, I know I need to roll crimp pretty heavily in the cannelure so the bullets dont jump out, but what about lower power?  I'd rather keep the same crimp so I dont have to readjust the final crimp die when switching between mag and special, but not if its going to create a damaging high pressure situation or cause accuracy to suffer noticably.