Ballistic missile Alert (Read 139579 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #260 on: January 19, 2018, 09:25:29 AM »
The timing says people weren't interested in oofing when they though they were going to die, but once the danger passed there was increased need for release.
The F in Communism stands for Food

changemyoil66

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #261 on: January 19, 2018, 10:08:09 AM »
That is an interesting statistic.
It is natures survival instinct to compel animals to breed when threatened.

I like living on the edge, I was on the site during. Hahahaha

Rocky

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #262 on: January 19, 2018, 10:39:09 AM »
some notes:

hi ema does operate on a shoestring budget.  Been asking the leg for years for more funds to improve things like their software, better equipment, etc -  always denied.  So in actuality, whos fault is it that they dont have the funds necessary to buy, develop, or contract out a competent software, paving the way for such an incident to occur?  So if it ends up that they're finally allocated some money to better equip hawaii for natural disasters, that's probably a good thing.  Better preparations for ballistic missile will positively affect readiness in all areas.

Leadership is lacking all around... "someone", whether it be the administrator, #2, #3, #4 in command, the governor, a senator, ANYONE should have issued the order to send a correction text immediately, regulations or perceived regulations be damned.  Whatever method was used to communicate the alert should be cancelled using that method immediately, that is common sense.   If they immediately issued a correcting text, this would be a much smaller incident.  Maybe FEMA would have slapped the back of hi ema's wrists and said "bad boy you didn't follow regulations", but who fucking cares?  All these idiots are doing is covering their own asses and grandstanding because its an election year.  Look for a lot more fingerpointing and other BS to come.  BUT this is hawaii, and incompetence and stupidity is the status quo.

Dear Representative Schatz.

As you are assigned to the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Communications Technology, Innovation, and the Internet which "includes telephones, cell phones, the Internet, commercial and noncommercial television, cable, satellite broadcast, satellite communications, wireline and wireless broadband, radio, consumer electronic equipment associated with such services, and public safety communications." were you not responsible to make sure ALL of Hawaii residents be warned of an impending missile strike on our homeland ?
Or better yet, to be sure the message went out to all that it was a false alarm immediately?

Your position on the  Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies which includes "protecting the health of all Americans and providing essential human services" is also an apparent failure as there was no protection available nor any " essential human services" provided during the 38 minutes of panic and chaos.

To not accept any blame in this fiasco and to point fingers at others is ludicrous. You state that we should remove the HI EMS warning system and start anew because we already have another functioning system. I assume that you are referring to the warning sirens which I haven't seen work with even close to 100% efficiency in years.

 In closing,  find you just as guilty as the employee who inadvertently "pushed the button" for the panic in Hawaii January 13, 2018.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Direjackalope

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #263 on: January 19, 2018, 10:39:49 AM »
I escorted two of my coworkers down to HPD and got them signed up for their long gun permits.  The scare made them realize that they would have had much greater peace of mind if they were able to protect themselves during a crisis.

Two more AR’s are about to come into “common use” as a silver lining.

changemyoil66

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #264 on: January 19, 2018, 10:43:20 AM »
I escorted two of my coworkers down to HPD and got them signed up for their long gun permits.  The scare made them realize that they would have had much greater peace of mind if they were able to protect themselves during a crisis.

Two more AR’s are about to come into “common use” as a silver lining.

Just 2?  Give them a few months, more will be added.

Direjackalope

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #265 on: January 19, 2018, 10:52:09 AM »
Exactly! 

2ahavvaii

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #266 on: January 19, 2018, 11:30:41 AM »
SA news article has plenty first time gun buyers going through the process, majority women buying small caliber handguns.  Paying upfront for safety class + handgun that they wont be able to take home for weeks after.  crazy.    So in about 2 weeks, HPD is going to have a deluge of first timers registering handguns

to each his own, but idk if I'd pick an AR as a first gun for defense during a crisis.  If things go haywire with any type of major disaster, you're better off with a concealable pistol to protect yourself in and out of your house.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 11:35:59 AM by 2ahavvaii »

rpoL98

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #267 on: January 22, 2018, 09:08:28 PM »
seriously, we couldn't even make this stuff up if we were totally wasted.  c'mon man!

"Gov. David Ige says he and his team took so long to post a message to social media about the recent missile alert being a false alarm because he didn't know his Twitter username and password.  Ige told reporters Monday he's since put his username and password into his cellphone. He says he can now use social media without waiting for his staff.  The governor was asked why his Twitter account relayed a Hawaii Emergency Management Agency tweet about the false alarm at 8:24 a.m. on Jan. 13 even though Ige learned about the mistake 15 minutes earlier at 8:09 a.m."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/23/hawaii-governor-took-long-to-post-on-twitter-about-missile-alert-because-forgot-username-password.html
« Last Edit: January 23, 2018, 01:28:50 AM by rpoL98 »

ren

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #268 on: January 22, 2018, 09:37:55 PM »
seriously, we couldn't even make this stuff up if we were totally wasted.  c'mon man!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/23/hawaii-governor-took-long-to-post-on-twitter-about-missile-alert-because-forgot-username-password.html

If I had to guess...
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PW: Kermit
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oldfart

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #269 on: January 22, 2018, 11:00:26 PM »
If I had to guess...
Username: Muppet
PW: Kermit
:rofl:
What, Me Worry?

2ahavvaii

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2018, 11:58:19 PM »
Tsunami Watch
Hawaii
HAWAII THE ESTIMATED EARLIEST ARRIVAL OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS 0426 AM HST TUE 23 JAN 2018 FURTHER MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT UNTIL THE ...

Lets hope the govnor can get it right this time if a tsunami actually comes.  Note that Alaska earthquakes caused various major tsunamis in hawaii in the past

new guy

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #271 on: January 23, 2018, 12:11:46 AM »
Tsunami Watch
Hawaii
HAWAII THE ESTIMATED EARLIEST ARRIVAL OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS 0426 AM HST TUE 23 JAN 2018 FURTHER MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT UNTIL THE ...

Lets hope the govnor can get it right this time if a tsunami actually comes.  Note that Alaska earthquakes caused various major tsunamis in hawaii in the past

Rec'd same.

Stay safe and keep fingers crossed, all.
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2018, 12:31:11 AM »


Event local Time: 11:31 PM Monday 1/22 HST
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #273 on: January 23, 2018, 12:40:36 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #274 on: January 23, 2018, 01:21:01 AM »
Tsunami Watch Canceled as of 01:10 AM HST
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #275 on: January 23, 2018, 06:01:17 AM »
Tsunami Watch Canceled as of 01:10 AM HST
See. They learn from the past. Ige put his user name and password on a Post-it and stuck it on the monitor like the guys in the bunker.

oldfart

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #276 on: January 23, 2018, 06:58:15 AM »
WATCH alerts are issued all the time but nobody hears about them because they are not required to be forwarded to the general public via radio or tv stations.
The most common watch alert is flash flooding. But by that time I think everbody knows it's raining a lot.

WARNING alerts are generally required to be broadcast.

The warning that worries me the most is the tsunami warning since we live along a fault line.
If a nearby offshore earthquake triggers a tsunami, the folks near the beach have almost no time to evacuate.
Those damn sirens better work. I got family along the coastline.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #277 on: January 23, 2018, 10:41:05 AM »
If you don't have it installed, you should consider the HNL Info app for your phone.  That's how I get the most warnings from state agencies.  I get all the high wind, high surf and flash flood advisories.  I also received the tsunami advisories last night as well as the cancelation from this app.

You can subscribe to any of 9 current alert categories.  They add more occasionally:  Police, fire, EMS, road closures, water main breaks, etc.

Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.honolulu.hnlinfo&hl=en

Apple
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hnl-info/id1227912811?mt=8
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #278 on: January 23, 2018, 12:53:44 PM »
SA news article has plenty first time gun buyers going through the process, majority women buying small caliber handguns.  Paying upfront for safety class + handgun that they wont be able to take home for weeks after.  crazy.    So in about 2 weeks, HPD is going to have a deluge of first timers registering handguns

to each his own, but idk if I'd pick an AR as a first gun for defense during a crisis.  If things go haywire with any type of major disaster, you're better off with a concealable pistol to protect yourself in and out of your house.

It's probably because a long gun permit is easier than a handgun.  Great logic by the anti 2a dems.  Let's make the one of the 3 (handgun, rifle, shotty) deadliest easier to buy.

rpoL98

Re: Ballistic missile Alert
« Reply #279 on: January 23, 2018, 02:27:56 PM »
As Fox News reported, for nearly 20 minutes, Gov. Ige failed to notify the public that the errant public warning was a misfire because he forgot his Twitter password.

Ige reportedly knew the warning was an accidental false alarm within two minutes of it being sent.  "Here's a state governor who thinks he can only communicate by Twitter," Gutfeld said. "Is this state run by teenagers?"  "No," he added. "It's run by Democrats, who are basically teenagers with power."  Gutfeld said Ige didn't need a Twitter password to call a press conference or notify the public by other means.  He called the overwhelmingly Democratic Hawaiian government "amateur hour," saying they have a hard time "logging onto Twitter - and reality."  Gutfeld said Ige and other Democrats should think twice before criticizing President Donald Trump's Twitter usage because "at least he knows how [to tweet]."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/23/hawaii-missile-false-alarm-gutfeld-governor-david-ige-twitter-excuse

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