I wrote about that to my rep.  I told him that when there is only 2 people in line, I had to wait almost 1 hour.  So imagine if there were more.

You’re losing sight of the forest for the trees.   

If you sold them in-state, the buyer is supposed to register, and you were supposed to notify HPD of the sale.

If you sold them to an out-of-state buyer, you still have to notify HPD.

Where u getting this info from?   Notify hpd? Those knuckle heads at registration didn't know wtf 2 do when i tried to notify them that my gun had been sold and transferred to another local shop. No paper work or documents??? Sent me on my way.

  Also 2nd time my gun was defected  and sent back, sw said gun was not safe. And will take possession in exchange for a replacement with new #. Showed hpd the letter. And they said the gun will always be registred 2 me and shrugged me off.

Where u getting this info from?   Notify hpd? Those knuckle heads at registration didn't know wtf 2 do when i tried to notify them that my gun had been sold and transferred to another local shop. No paper work or documents??? Sent me on my way.

  Also 2nd time my gun was defected  and sent back,answ said gun was not safe will take possession in exchange for a replacement with new #. Showed hpd the letter. And they said the gun will always be registred 2 me and shrugged me off.

HRS 134-2 (f) --

(f)  In all cases where a pistol or revolver is acquired from another person within the State, the permit shall be signed in ink by the person to whom title to the pistol or revolver is transferred and shall be delivered to the person who is transferring title to the firearm, who shall verify that the person to whom the firearm is to be transferred is the person named in the permit and enter on the permit in the space provided the following information:  name of the person to whom the title to the firearm was transferred; names of the manufacturer and importer; model; type of action; caliber or gauge; and serial number, as applicable.  The person who is transferring title to the firearm shall sign the permit in ink and cause the permit to be delivered or sent by registered mail to the issuing authority within forty-eight hours after transferring the firearm.

     In all cases where receipt of a firearm is had by mail, express, freight, or otherwise from sources without the State, the person to whom the permit has been issued shall make the prescribed entries on the permit, sign the permit in ink, and cause the permit to be delivered or sent by registered mail to the issuing authority within forty-eight hours after taking possession of the firearm.

     In all cases where a rifle or shotgun is acquired from another person within the State, the person who is transferring title to the rifle or shotgun shall submit, within forty-eight hours after transferring the firearm, to the authority that issued the permit to acquire, the following information, in writing:  name of the person who transferred the firearm, name of the person to whom the title to the firearm was transferred; names of the manufacturer and importer; model; type of action; caliber or gauge; and serial number, as applicable.

If you sold them in-state, the buyer is supposed to register, and you were supposed to notify HPD of the sale.

If you sold them to an out-of-state buyer, you still have to notify HPD.

Could you please post the reference to the (transfer to out of state transferee) "must notify" clause in HRS?

So if you take your firearms to a state that allows "private sales" and sell all your firearms, and either don't get a "receipt" or the airline loses your luggage that contains the receipt, so you don't have any "proof of sale", you're all good as long as you "notify"? Do you have to do that via a particular written state form, or just a phone call? Anyone actually done this? Thanks.

Could you please post the reference to the (transfer to out of state transferee) "must notify" clause in HRS?

So if you take your firearms to a state that allows "private sales" and sell all your firearms, and either don't get a "receipt" or the airline loses your luggage that contains the receipt, so you don't have any "proof of sale", you're all good as long as you "notify"? Do you have to do that via a particular written state form, or just a phone call? Anyone actually done this? Thanks.

We were talking about HPD records listing you as the registered owner.  When I said "have to notify HPD," I meant that in the context of "if you want your name removed as the owner," not "required by law."

 

HRS 134-2 (f) --

The way it is written  it seems like there talking about private individual sale. 

 What about selling to local ffl?  Or return or destroyed by manufacture.  I know many people shruged off by hpd trying to document this with them,. When a firearm is sold to an ffl, in state they register it 2 there shop. The shop can sell it off locally  or out of state. I

If sold locally the previous and present buyer will share the same serial. As the gun will always be registered under your name. This whole bill is BS.

we gotta worry about these clowns trying  to shit on us every year!

This is the Progressive agenda. Erode liberty until they have total control.


I would laugh in any one of their faces if they said they stood for liberty and freedom.  This entire state is indoctrinated to act this way.  Programmed people from other cultures who are used to being programmed that come here and either perpetuate it or follow along like lemmings.


Yeah it is easy for me to say since I am leaving soon but this is exactly my experience while on these islands.  From the capitulation of the Hawaiian people to modern day Progressivism tactics by their Asian and Haole overlords that get voted in.

Weak people breed fascism because the government and society you get is what you vote for.   

The only reason I am leaving and not staying is because of the freedom robbing state government. Had a job offer, wife has a good job, and all would be well except for the state government.

Bye Hawaii.

We were talking about HPD records listing you as the registered owner.  When I said "have to notify HPD," I meant that in the context of "if you want your name removed as the owner," not "required by law."

 

Remove name as owner??? Once registered gun will always be under your name.

We were talking about HPD records listing you as the registered owner.  When I said "have to notify HPD," I meant that in the context of "if you want your name removed as the owner," not "required by law."

 

Yeah, I was also referring to being a Hawaii listed/registered owner who disposed of a firearm out of state with no proof of sale/transfer, and wants to have the obviously no-longer-correct Hawaii registration stricken from the records. So you're saying there is no legal requirement to "notify" regarding the out of state transfer/sale, right? What I'm asking then is where is the legal text describing how to have your existing registration stricken in the context of an out of state sale/transfer, either with or without any proof of transfer.

Edited to clarify: Referring to a Hawaii resident who returns from firearm disposal trip to mainland.

Could you please post the reference to the (transfer to out of state transferee) "must notify" clause in HRS?

So if you take your firearms to a state that allows "private sales" and sell all your firearms, and either don't get a "receipt" or the airline loses your luggage that contains the receipt, so you don't have any "proof of sale", you're all good as long as you "notify"? Do you have to do that via a particular written state form, or just a phone call? Anyone actually done this? Thanks.

According to the law, as long as it's written and contains the information listed in the statute, that's all that's needed for notification.  Hawaii county PD has a form you can download for this purpose.  It's easy to alter the appropriate lines for any other county.

If you are no longer a Hawaii resident, their laws don't apply to you.  Showing proof you are no longer living in Hawaii would help HPD trust your guns are actually out of state.  You don't have to transfer them to notify HPD if out of state.  You can do it as soon as you are no longer a resident of HI.

Like I said, this was in another thread.  I'm just regurgitating what I remember reading from another board member who asked HPD when he left the state.

According to the law, as long as it's written and contains the information listed in the statute, that's all that's needed for notification.  Hawaii county PD has a form you can download for this purpose.  It's easy to alter the appropriate lines for any other county.

If you are no longer a Hawaii resident, their laws don't apply to you.  Showing proof you are no longer living in Hawaii would help HPD trust your guns are actually out of state.  You don't have to transfer them to notify HPD if out of state.  You can do it as soon as you are no longer a resident of HI.

Sound like u assuming allot things and you dont know for sure or from actual experince.

Oops

According to the law, as long as it's written and contains the information listed in the statute, that's all that's needed for notification.  Hawaii county PD has a form you can download for this purpose.  It's easy to alter the appropriate lines for any other county.

If you are no longer a Hawaii resident, their laws don't apply to you.  Showing proof you are no longer living in Hawaii would help HPD trust your guns are actually out of state.  You don't have to transfer them to notify HPD if out of state.  You can do it as soon as you are no longer a resident of HI.

That is not within the law.  HPD does not recognize this. The firearms stay in their database forever.

Sound like u assuming allot things and you dont know for sure or from actual experince.

I have already asked HPD about this.  They will not terminate the registrations even after me and the firearms leave the state.

That is not within the law.  HPD does not recognize this. The firearms stay in their database forever.

And I suspect the Rapback enrollees are enrolled for life as well, independent of their actual state of residence, or death.

If you inform them, in asking to have your firearms removed from the Hawaii registration system, that you have moved residence to another state, I wonder if they ask your for your new address, or proof of residency, or in their spare time look up your new location? It wouldn't surprise me. Unfortunately. "Somehow", I've come to expect the worst when it comes to despotic tyrannical government action here in Hawaii.

I have already asked HPD about this.  They will not terminate the registrations even after me and the firearms leave the state.

I agree and received the same info from hpd.  My quote was in regards to Flapp_Jackson and his advice. In particular that your name could be removed was not valid.

And I suspect the Rapback enrollees are enrolled for life as well, independent of their actual state of residence, or death.

If you inform them, in asking to have your firearms removed from the Hawaii registration system, that you have moved residence to another state, I wonder if they ask your for your new address, or proof of residency, or in their spare time look up your new location? It wouldn't surprise me. Unfortunately. "Somehow", I've come to expect the worst when it comes to despotic tyrannical government action here in Hawaii.

I have Federal orders stating where the Federal government is moving me and my property.  They refuse to remove my registrations.  I am going to have to sue to try and get them disposed of.

Fucking dumb that the "law makers" make a........

1. Un-Constitutional law that a citizen shouldn't have to fight in the first place.
2. Further violate another Federal law (FOPA) with an Un-Constitutional database of gun owners.

not to bother the fact that most of the citizenry here on this island is complicit with all of it.

"controlled by the United States or any STATE or any political subdivision thereof"

a) The Attorney General may prescribe only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter, including—

Can't submit testimony. Is only the house bill taking testimony at this point?

Edit: never mind, looks like there are two senate versions?