S 3/2/2018: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-06-18.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD2_.pdf   
SB2436 SD2   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to 7 days. Effective 7/1/2050. (SD2)   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC

3/6/2018   S   Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). Ayes, 25; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Baker, S. Chang, English, Espero, Gabbard, Green, Harimoto, Ihara, Keith-Agaran, Kidani, Kim, Ruderman, L. Thielen, Tokuda . Noes, 0 (none). Excused, 0 (none). Transmitted to House.
3/6/2018   H   Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 183) in amended form (SD 2).

3 Anti-2A Bills crossed over yesterday.  HB1908, SB2046, SB2436

H 3/6/2018: Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 183) in amended form (SD 2).   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD2_.pdf   
SB2436 SD2   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to 7 days. Effective 7/1/2050. (SD2)   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC   

H 3/8/2018: Referred to JUD, referral sheet 35   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD2_.pdf   
SB2436 SD2   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to 7 days. Effective 7/1/2050. (SD2)   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   JUD   

I think something similar in Seattle, which is notorious for anti-2A.  but at least, they're providing some "due process", at first glance.

"Only family, roommates and police can petition the court for the civil order. The burden of proof is on the petitioner. A judge determines if the person is a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued, the guns can be seized immediately, but the gun owner gets to make his or her case in court within two weeks."

I think for Hawaii, it's anybody and their brother can cause you to forfeit your constitutional rights, if you look at them sideways, or something frivolous like that.  I'm not all read-up on that.  and if you have to go through the 2 week waiting period to get your guns back, then that means implicitly the burden of proof is upon you, for restoral of your rights.  it's all effed up.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/02/police-legally-seizing-guns-under-red-flag-laws.html

At least Seattle issues CCW's and has open carry. Could be worst, like Hawaii.

Up for hearing:

Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Wednesday, 04-04-18 2:00PM in House conference room 325.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2436&year=2018

Testimony submitted. I'm up to 13 testimonies this year so far.

At least Seattle issues CCW's and has open carry. Could be worst, like Hawaii.

I had a CCW for 18 years in WA state. Seattle is where you can get your license,
but the state is the only  legal authority to issue it to you as they are a "shall issue".
The city of Seattle is about as anti-gun as you can find, the CCW line is the same
one for Sex predators to register.
You can open carry, but you will be talking to lots of Cops as they will
accuse you of Brandishing, just because they can and they will.
It doesn't cost them money to go to court, but it costs you.
If the Hunter bill ever passes, I will move my legal residence back to
WA state and get another CCW license.  But live here in Hawaii.

submitted

Glad I checked this site today!

Just got my HRA membership package which is nice, but they should really be on top of asking people to submit testimony so we don't accidentally miss these windows.

Submitted. Thanks for the heads up. One of my coworkers had a marijuana card from a serious work injury and he got boned with a confiscation letter. Had this bill been law he would have been screwed. Nobody deserves to be put through that.

No announcement yet on the committee vote (I'm betting unanimous AYE).

The testimony (102 pages) was overwhelmingly in support of the bill. I didn't do a count, but I'd guess at least 6 or maybe even 8 to one in support. 90% of those support testimonies were virtually identical "Moms Demand" form letters, though a few of those folks did modify them to one degree or another. Pretty friggin' sad for our side. Testimony burnout, just giving up as useless, or ?

My testimony stressed the absurdity of allowing someone deemed "dangerous" enough to have to confiscate their firearms and then allowing them to be in public and access every other kind of weapon known to mankind, from motor vehicles to gasoline to knives, poisons, etc. I included David Codrea's quote which sums it up:

“Anyone who can’t be trusted with a gun can’t be trusted without a custodian” is a maxim I’ve been using for years because it’s true. Recalling that the three greatest mass murders in U.S. history were reportedly initiated with utility knives, fuel oil and fertilizer, and gasoline and a match, and how many homicides are committed with blunt or sharp objects or even with hands and feet, why would you want to give a “prohibited person” access to those along with the freedom to move among the rest of us?

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2436_SD2_TESTIMONY_JUD_04-04-18_.PDF

Pretty friggin' sad for our side. Testimony burnout, just giving up as useless, or ?

Several other possible reasons:
1.  They don't understand what the bill is about.  We need an illustrated webpage describing the bill, examples, and  its advantages/disadvantages.
2.  Some people may agree with parts of it.
3.  Most of it is because it wasn't advertised..
4.  Many people don't care cause they feel it won't affect them.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2436_SD2_TESTIMONY_JUD_04-04-18_.PDF

I made the testimony deadline. It's difficult to tell how much more support there is because they didn't organize the testimony by support/oppose. Ironically, Chief Ballard's testimony was marked Late.

We won't know what the amendments are until they post the new version of the bill, usually 24 to 72 hours, or if someone calls the chair office and they are willing to tell you over the phone.

What's the point of voting for "Republicans" if they vote in solidarity with the Democrats on this kind of crap?

4/4/2018   H   The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 7 Ayes: Representative(s) Nishimoto, San Buenaventura, Brower, Morikawa, Takayama, McDermott, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: none; Noes: none; and 1 Excused: Representative(s) C. Lee.

Several other possible reasons:
1.  They don't understand what the bill is about.  We need an illustrated webpage describing the bill, examples, and  its advantages/disadvantages.
2.  Some people may agree with parts of it.
3.  Most of it is because it wasn't advertised..
4.  Many people don't care cause they feel it won't affect them.

I only heard about it because Puna posted about it.  I'm at work and leave 2ahawaii open and refresh every now and then.  I sit behind a desk.  When not at work, I rarely go on as much, maybe like once a day just to check a little.  So I can imagine with only 45 minutes, many people missed it.

The testimony (102 pages) was overwhelmingly in support of the bill. I didn't do a count, but I'd guess at least 6 or maybe even 8 to one in support. 90% of those support testimonies were virtually identical "Moms Demand" form letters, though a few of those folks did modify them to one degree or another. Pretty friggin' sad for our side. Testimony burnout, just giving up as useless, or ?

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2436_SD2_TESTIMONY_JUD_04-04-18_.PDF

Just read through the testimonies. The definitely used a form letter that easily disprovable hyperbolic assertions, but because none of us heard about it we didn't get a chance to respond directly. The whole idea that the 30 days is a "loophole" is completely ridiculous. A loophole would be a policy of letting police who are DQ'ed keep their weapons while everyone else gets theirs confiscated.

Someone needs to take one for the team and register with Moms Demand Action Hawaii and whatever other groups we see popping up in the ledge comments so that we get a heads up on what they are planning. Apparently they invited people to come to the capital to support 2436. Not sure how big the turnout was though. I can't see their whole page because I deleted my Facebook account

https://www.facebook.com/MomsDemandActionHI

From what I can tell due to the lack of local photos it seems like the standard astroturf slacktivism group paid for and administered by out-of-state interests. We should be using their money and resources against them whenever possible. I'm sure if more gun owners read their inflated and disingenuous claims before the deadline then we would get a much better response from our side.

Don't forget that they also have a good sounding name.  Like "affordable care act" and such.  We need a good name also like Hawaii fluffy bunny and kitten association.

We need a good name also like Hawaii fluffy bunny and kitten association.

Yeah, that'd be a good name, but unfortunately for us it's already been registered by the Democrat Party of Hawaii.