Burst means to fire several shots really quickly, like a m4 3 round burst with one trigger pull.  So multiburst is shooting several bursts quickly?  So for a m4 it would shoot like 9 rounds?

Burst means to fire several shots really quickly, like a m4 3 round burst with one trigger pull.  So multiburst is shooting several bursts quickly?  So for a m4 it would shoot like 9 rounds?

Hey, just because they are ignoramuses who have no idea what they are talking about and make up words to mean whatever they want them to mean about firearms that are already illegal in Hawaii doesn't mean they aren't "qualified" to pass laws that make us into felons. Isn't that how "government" is supposed to work? I'm really on the verge of submitting some "unprofessional" testimony... 

This language is no different than writing a law to register firearms and no way to un-register them.


Ignorant people.

Hey, just because they are ignoramuses who have no idea what they are talking about and make up words to mean whatever they want them to mean about firearms that are already illegal in Hawaii doesn't mean they aren't "qualified" to pass laws that make us into felons. Isn't that how "government" is supposed to work? I'm really on the verge of submitting some "unprofessional" testimony... 

30 caliber clip in half a second...
I say again half a second in 30 calibers



magazine is like ammunition

30 caliber clip in half a second...
I say again half a second in 30 calibers



magazine is like ammunition

The truly sad thing is that these mental midgets get reelected, over and over again. 

Testimony done.

Submitted testimony.  Enough poorly written and ineffective legislation already.

Looking for your opinions.  Should we show a video of someone "bumpfiring" with a rubber band or belt loop and show it to the committee?  Would it help or hurt us?  I see it as helping in that they'll have that "oh Sh@t" moment and realize that bumpstocks are expensive items that don't really do anything special.  However they could see it as semi auto rifles are more dangerous now.

Looking for your opinions.  Should we show a video of someone "bumpfiring" with a rubber band or belt loop and show it to the committee?  Would it help or hurt us?  I see it as helping in that they'll have that "oh Sh@t" moment and realize that bumpstocks are expensive items that don't really do anything special.  However they could see it as semi auto rifles are more dangerous now.

I'm sure they could watch YouTube on their own.  They already want to ban all peons firearms, they just won't come straight out and say it.  No sense help them.

Looking for your opinions.  Should we show a video of someone "bumpfiring" with a rubber band or belt loop and show it to the committee?  Would it help or hurt us?  I see it as helping in that they'll have that "oh Sh@t" moment and realize that bumpstocks are expensive items that don't really do anything special.  However they could see it as semi auto rifles are more dangerous now.

The people on the committee (the vast majority anyway) are immune to facts. They are operating ideologically and thus no rational, logical, evidence-based arguments/facts hold any sway. (But, of course they all "support the Second Amendment,but...") I believe there are also stupidity and ignorance factors at play. Haven't we seen that recently (as in years past) with unanimous votes for vaguely-worded and unenforceable laws that would have no effect on crime? If they were to defer/defeat this bill, it would be for "political" reasons, part of a strategy to further restrict our rights via other bills and using the cover of "we voted against that" (so "we're not oath-breaking tyrants") .

The rubbers bands would be "attached", so they'd be banned by this bill, but firing from belt loops, using a stick at the shoulder, and "bump firing from the shoulder" with no "device" at all, much less on "attached" to the firearm are all simple ways to "increase the rate of fire" without violating the "law" if this bill were passed and signed into law. Showing them videos of the myriad simple free ways to circumvent their "commonsense gun safety regulation" would not dissuade them. I mean, not a single "gun control" law has ever dissuaded a criminal from using a firearm to commit crimes, but they still think those are the solution to criminals being criminals and victimizing innocent people. Like I said, stupid is a factor here.

The only "solution" in this instance is to ban "an increased rate of fire", and since even they can figure out that that couldn't possibly be enforced (like most of their other shit laws) the only remaining option is to ban semi-automatic firearms. And I can assure you even if they accomplished that, they would come after the remaining categories of firearms. Like I said, they are ideologues. "No one needs a gun."

But I submitted lengthy testimony anyway.   

Looking for your opinions.  Should we show a video of someone "bumpfiring" with a rubber band or belt loop and show it to the committee?  Would it help or hurt us?  I see it as helping in that they'll have that "oh Sh@t" moment and realize that bumpstocks are expensive items that don't really do anything special.  However they could see it as semi auto rifles are more dangerous now.

you are asking illogical people to think logically...

MA was the 1st state to ban bump stocks and had a surrender by date.  So far only 3 in the entire state were surrendered.

I'll be working at the State Capitol today so let me know if you need any help if you come down.  I can show you around the capitol prior to the hearing, just send me a msg.  Unfortunately I wont be at the HB1908 hearing due to I have to work in another committee room at the same time.

MA was the 1st state to ban bump stocks and had a surrender by date.  So far only 3 in the entire state were surrendered.

I'm sure everyone in the state besides those three people obeyed the law and either destroyed them or shipped them out of MA, right?

we need a video showing bumpfiring of a WW I era semi-auto rifle.  one of those with a wooden stock.  I don't know, were semi-auto's used in the first big one?  showing my world history ignance here.

find a semi-auto that's not viewed as black evil, and do the belt loop thing with that.

we need a video showing bumpfiring of a WW I era semi-auto rifle.  one of those with a wooden stock.  I don't know, were semi-auto's used in the first big one?  showing my world history ignance here.

find a semi-auto that's not viewed as black evil, and do the belt loop thing with that.

Good point, I wonder if my M1 Carbine would work.  The trigger is stiffer and doesn't recoil as much.

When can we see the testimony submitted?
Hearing is in 3 hours.

When can we see the testimony submitted?
Hearing is in 3 hours.

How the process of posting testimony works:
Once your testimony is submitted and is listed in green in the sidebar, it is in our system. However, it is not automatically posted to the website.

Senate

Testimony submitted by the 24-hour deadline will be posted online prior to the convening of the public hearing.
Testimony received after the 24-hour deadline will be posted to the Capitol website within 24 hours after the hearing has adjourned and may be marked as "late".

House

The hearing committee gathers all "on-time" testimony in the system for a particular bill, which is testimony submitted at least 24 hours before the hearing, and compiles it into a single document. Staff will try to incorporate additional testimony received within 24 hours of the hearing if possible.
The hearing committee will post testimony received "on-time" to the Capitol website at the beginning of the hearing.
Testimony received after the 24-hour deadline may be marked as "late" but will be posted to the Capitol website as soon as possible following the hearing. Testimony submitted after the hearing will not be considered or posted.

[Sometimes it's posted a little earlier than stated above... sometimes.]

Okay, it's one hour and eight minutes after the testimony was supposed to be posted (when the meeting started) and it isn't. Anybody know what's going on with the committee meeting? There is no live streaming of audio or video of the meeting (and no posted video of the PSM meeting that passed SB2046 unanimously). 

Okay, it's one hour and eight minutes after the testimony was supposed to be posted (when the meeting started) and it isn't. Anybody know what's going on with the committee meeting? There is no live streaming of audio or video of the meeting (and no posted video of the PSM meeting that passed SB2046 unanimously). 

There's 4 of us here.  Still waiting for HB1908.