Don't forget besides a written test, a shooting test as well.  Support hand only at 50 yards pistol with 0.5 MOA grouping.

This bill has gone to the CPC Committee

H 2/16/2018: Reported from JUD (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 597-18) as amended in HD 1, recommending passage on Second Reading and referral to CPC.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB1908_HD1_.pdf   
HB1908 HD1   Prohibited; Multiburst Trigger Activators; Firearm   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Prohibits multiburst trigger activators. (HB1908 HD1)   
Oppose.   TAKAYAMA, CREAGAN, DECOITE, GATES, ING, KEOHOKALOLE, LOPRESTI, LOWEN, NISHIMOTO, SAY   JUD, CPC

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CPC Members are as follows:
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/committeepage.aspx?comm=CPC&year=2018
Testimony email: CPCtestimony@capitol.hawaii.gov

There are 6 pro-2A rated reps and 5 anti-2A rated reps.  No hearing is scheduled yet.  However, please contact your reps if they are on this list and encourage them show up to vote NAY and kill this bill!


Roy M. Takumi (HRA 2016 Rating F)
House District 35
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 320
phone: 808-586-6170
fax: 808-586-6171
reptakumi@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Linda Ichiyama (HRA 2016 Rating D)
House District 32
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 327
phone: 808-586-6220
fax: 808-586-6221
repichiyama@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Henry Aquino (HRA 2016 Rating A)
House District 38
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 419
phone: 808-586-6520
fax: 808-586-6521
repaquino@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Ken Ito (HRA 2016 Rating A+)
House District 49
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 432
phone: 808-586-8470
fax: 808-586-8474
repito@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Aaron Ling Johanson (HRA 2016 Rating D)
House District 31
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 426
phone: 808-586-9470
fax: 808-586-9476
repjohanson@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Matthew LoPresti (HRA 2016 Rating F)
House District 41
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 424
phone: 808-586-6080
fax: 808-586-6081
replopresti@Capitol.hawaii.gov


John Mizuno (HRA 2016 Rating F)
House District 28
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 439
phone: 808-586-6050
fax: 808-586-6051
repmizuno@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Calvin Say (HRA 2016 Rating A)
House District 20
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 433
phone: 808-586-6900
fax: 808-586-6910
repsay@Capitol.hawaii.gov


James Kunane Tokioka (HRA 2016 Rating A)
House District 15
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 322
phone: 808-586-6270
fax: 808-586-6271
reptokioka@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Ryan Yamane (HRA 2016 Rating A)
House District 37
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 420
phone: 808-586-6150
fax: 808-586-6151
repyamane@Capitol.hawaii.gov


Bob McDermott (HRA 2016 Rating A)
House District 40
Hawaii State Capitol
Room 330
phone: 808-586-9730
fax: 808-586-9738
repmcdermott@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Bill was passed with 1 nay from McDermott.  It was amended with language to make it more clear it only affects bump stocks and trigger cranks instead of regular trigger replacements/mods.

HB 1908 AMENDMENTS POSTED:

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB1908_HD1_.HTM

 (1)  A device that simulates automatic gunfire by allowing standard function of a semiautomatic firearm with a static positioned trigger finger or a device that fires multiple shots with the pull and release of the trigger; or
     (2)  A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it simulates automatic gunfire."

Original:

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB1908_.HTM

(1)  A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm, which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device; or
     (2)  A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm."

So they replaced "shots in a burst" with "simulates automatic gunfire".

So they replaced "shots in a burst" with "simulates automatic gunfire".

One of our gun people proposed the changes as an insurance policy in case the bill gets passed.  It's an improvement and further limits what it can be interpreted as. Still opposed though.

You got the link?  I visited but there are 40 sub forums and I checked the politics one and others and couldn't find it.

Login and search for multiburst

Power driven trigger activator has already been shot down by the ATF.  The guys that made a glove with a motor that wiggled your finger. 

Perhaps third time the charm to not make something illegal that is already illegal? 

Gotta give it to them they actually listened a little bit.

Gotta give it to them they actually listened a little bit.

I was thinking the same thing.

I berated them pretty hard and told them they should "Have someone in the room that knows what they're talking about" when they write this stuff.

Saw a number of similar posts from others.

I still don't agree with it, but at least it's not sloppy, vague, and moronic.

They were talking about this on the local news portion of NPR Thai morning. They started on which individuals (including Mayor Kim) and other coalitions (I wondered how many actually in the coalition and effects if we created coalitions as well) that were for. But then, they mentioned that local citizens conveyed opposition and that most were that the proposed law would serve to ban “legitimate firearm accessories” (don’t recall exactly what they said) and that the opposition far outweighed the support.

To me, that’s was a change in tide in terms of acknowledgment and coverage of opposing as well as the reasoning other than “my 2a right”. Also that the sharing of the opposition points could ring true to other casual firearm owners.

They were talking about this on the local news portion of NPR Thai morning. They started on which individuals (including Mayor Kim) and other coalitions (I wondered how many actually in the coalition and effects if we created coalitions as well) that were for. But then, they mentioned that local citizens conveyed opposition and that most were that the proposed law would serve to ban “legitimate firearm accessories” (don’t recall exactly what they said) and that the opposition far outweighed the support.

To me, that’s was a change in tide in terms of acknowledgment and coverage of opposing as well as the reasoning other than “my 2a right”. Also that the sharing of the opposition points could ring true to other casual firearm owners.

same thing was in the star-adv this morning regarding HB 2046

Gotta give it to them they actually listened a little bit.

yes, they did not  have to listen or make the amendment...

yes, they did not  have to listen or make the amendment...

My (unsubstantiated) "belief" is that they only made the changes because they knew that the bill as written was subject to legal challenge and likely defeat in the courts due to its vagueness and duplication of already existing law (banning possession of "burst fire"/"multiburst" firearms in Hawaii). I.e. They did not make the changes due to recognition that the law is unenforceable and a violation of constitutionally-protected rights.

My (unsubstantiated) "belief" is that they only made the changes because they knew that the bill as written was subject to legal challenge and likely defeat in the courts due to its vagueness and duplication of already existing law (banning possession of "burst fire"/"multiburst" firearms in Hawaii). I.e. They did not make the changes due to recognition that the law is unenforceable and a violation of constitutionally-protected rights.

Wish that was the case for Rapback...

same thing was in the star-adv this morning regarding HB 2046

Good

I mean not earth shattering or anything like that, but I keep noticing seeming little changes of tides here and there. Even with Liberals.

Good

I mean not earth shattering or anything like that, but I keep noticing seeming little changes of tides here and there. Even with Liberals.

HPR was probably just reporting what was in the star-adv

HPR was probably just reporting what was in the star-adv

Yeah. I was just thinking the more it’s out there, the better.

NPR as a whole seems to be quite anti-gun, so I wouldn’t doubt if they filtered. But probably easier to just pass on the Star-Adv report.

Yeah. I was just thinking the more it’s out there, the better.

NPR as a whole seems to be quite anti-gun, so I wouldn’t doubt if they filtered. But probably easier to just pass on the Star-Adv report.

A weekend or two ago NPR "reported" that there have been 18 "school shootings" in the first 25 days of 2018... a totally discredited ("fake news"?)report/statistic (conjured up by Bloomberg's "Everytown for Gun Safety") unless nighttime parking lot suicides by janitors, pellet guns shot a school buses with no injuries, etc. are counted as "school shootings"). They are totally full of shit and as one-sided and ideologically-driven as can be, which I'd have no problem with if I wasn't paying for their fucking propaganda with my tax dollars. Remind me again, why does the government fund these lying assholes? 

Hope everyone has a great weekend. 

A weekend or two ago NPR "reported" that there have been 18 "school shootings" in the first 25 days of 2018... a totally discredited ("fake news"?)report/statistic (conjured up by Bloomberg's "Everytown for Gun Safety") unless nighttime parking lot suicides by janitors, pellet guns shot a school buses with no injuries, etc. are counted as "school shootings"). They are totally full of shit and as one-sided and ideologically-driven as can be, which I'd have no problem with if I wasn't paying for their fucking propaganda with my tax dollars. Remind me again, why does the government fund these lying assholes? 

Hope everyone has a great weekend. 

Ben Shaprio went on also to debunk this fake news story and detailed what was reported.  Like stated above, suicides, or random shots in glass windows while no students present or harmed.  Stuff like that.  Only 3 school shootings.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/02/16/hawaii-news/isle-lawmakers-move-a-bill-prohibiting-bump-stocks/?HSA=e1bd9072b301c1aa895a564440d55903e3d76029


The bill to ban the devices is backed by the Honolulu Police Department, Hawaii island Mayor Harry Kim, Americans for Democratic Action in Hawaii and a handful of other private individuals and law enforcement officials.

However, more than 100 people and organizations submitted testimony opposing the bill. Most argued that the measure would effectively outlaw legitimate shooting accessories other than bump stocks.

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LOL.... so no real support aside 1 mayor (out of 4), HPD (one PD out of 4), and a no name organization.