Looking for the general consensus here.  How do you feel Trump's stance on 2A is going?  I understand that recent events have definitely polarized the climate, however to me he's seeming wishy washy AF. I'm sure someone will provide the " it's all part of his brilliant negotiating strategy" reply.

The deep state wants us disarmed. All the war games the Pentagon have been playing for the past few years predict a future of increasing domestic instability. It's one of the reason they are raising a new generation of door kicking cops that act more like soldiers. Now everyone is a SWAT team.

I think Trump is politically smart and will play the line as much as he can, but at the end of the day he will do the bidding of the deep state. They don't really give anyone a choice.

I'm hoping his comment on "Take the guns now, due process later" was just to troll the dems.  They hate him so much that they will reject anything he supports or says.

But what did bother me the most was that Feinstein was smiling ear to ear when he was speaking.  That worries me.

I'm hoping his comment on "Take the guns now, due process later" was just to troll the dems.  They hate him so much that they will reject anything he supports or says.

But what did bother me the most was that Feinstein was smiling ear to ear when he was speaking.  That worries me.

It scares me. And being so remote here, we are very easy to cut off from "supplies", thus becoming sheeple very quickly

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Senator Feinstein looked giddy sitting next to Trump. This supports the theory that President Trump is a New York Democrat at heart like he was ten years ago. If the Dems get back Congress this November, I expect Trump to roll over like a love sick dog.

Politicians in general have a history of being ..........liars makes me wonder how many were used car salesman before the made the switch in careers. Once in office it's like " thanks for the votes" now let me not address or support any of your issues you elected me to do.

Looking for the general consensus here.  How do you feel Trump's stance on 2A is going?  I understand that recent events have definitely polarized the climate, however to me he's seeming wishy washy AF. I'm sure someone will provide the " it's all part of his brilliant negotiating strategy" reply.

He's wishy washy on everything so it doesn't surprise me in the least bit. It's disappointing, but certainly not surprising.

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He's wishy washy on everything so it doesn't surprise me in the least bit. It's disappointing, but certainly not surprising.

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But this need of his to have to constantly"one up" someone is troubling because I'm concerned about what might be said in a public forum that he does a knee jerk reaction to. Then we're all screwed

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Trump's position depends on who was the last person in the room at the time. In 2017, it was a battle between Bannon, Kushner, and Priebus to be the last aide standing. Priebus was pushed out by Bannon and Kushner. Bannon was planning to push out Kushner when Roy Moore was elected but that didn't happen so out he went. Kelly effectively kicked out Kushner so that leaves Kelly and Miller to influence the President. Sounds like they're not able to do so completely these days.

But this need of his to have to constantly"one up" someone is troubling because I'm concerned about what might be said in a public forum that he does a knee jerk reaction to. Then we're all screwed

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"Take the guns first, go through due process second" being the latest the Flip Flop in Chief has said.

You have a right to be concerned.

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Trump grew up in one of the most anti firearms states. 
It really shouldn't surprise anyone

Trump grew up in one of the most anti firearms states. 
It really shouldn't surprise anyone

So have I and I'm not advocating bypassing due process.

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Hope this is what he really is doing.

Donald Trump Could Be Pulling a Gun Control ‘Rope-a-Dope

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/01/hawkins-trump-pulling-gun-control-rope-dope/

Hope this is what he really is doing.

Donald Trump Could Be Pulling a Gun Control ‘Rope-a-Dope

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/01/hawkins-trump-pulling-gun-control-rope-dope/

Interesting. But what does he have to hit back with?

I heard the logic behind his stances on trade deals. Come in with an extreme, almost unreasonable, position and stick to it for a while. Then the other side will view less as a win and where the initial target was likely all along. In this case, I guess I don’t see the end game.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/02/trump-pence-dont-want-gun-control-nras-chief-lobbyist-says-after-meeting.html

Trump, Pence 'don't want gun control,' NRA's chief lobbyist says after meeting

Just one day after putting the NRA on the defensive with stunning televised comments, President Trump has signaled in an Oval Office meeting that he doesn't want gun control, according to the NRA's top lobbyist.

Chris Cox, the executive director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, tweeted late Thursday that "POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control."

Chris Cox
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@ChrisCoxNRA
I had a great meeting tonight with @realDonaldTrump & @VP. We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people. POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control. #NRA #MAGA

4:07 PM - Mar 1, 2018

About an hour later, Trump appeared to endorse Cox's version of events with a tweet of his own: "Good (Great) meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA!"
 
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
Good (Great) meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA!

5:04 PM - Mar 1, 2018

On Wednesday, Trump shocked observers during a televised discussion with bipartisan lawmakers by appearing to endorse extreme gun control measures.

“Take the guns first. Go through due process second,” Trump said. “I like taking the guns early.”

Trump, who has publicly changed his mind on other key issues, also urged Republican lawmakers not to be "afraid" of the powerful gun lobby and openly entertained more gun restrictions.

Yep we're screwed . That national CCW reciprocity is working out great too.🤔

Genious 

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2018/03/02/president-trump-setting-gun-grabbers/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2018-03-03&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

   “Seize the firearms, then go through due process.” That is exactly what gun-grabbers want to hear.   
However, avoiding due process should be enough to throw up red flags from civil rights organizations.
If not, it will give pro-gun organizations a reason to challenge the law “if” it is ever passed.

     Then, in the mid-term elections Republicans can sound tough on crime, and have given the gun grabbers crumbs.
In the 2020 presidential elections, Trump will be able to say, “We tried to pass gun control in 2018, it didn’t work.”   

Has anyone checked Twitter to see where he is on this subject today. 

So have I and I'm not advocating bypassing due process.

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That's only 1 of the things he said

Trump grew up in one of the most anti firearms states. 
It really shouldn't surprise anyone

Has anyone checked Twitter to see where he is on this subject today. 

That's only 1 of the things he said

Are we going to completely make judgments based on what a politician says, or what a politician does?

They all "support the Second Amendment...", so there's no difference between them? Which ones actually introduce and vote for obvious infringements?

Obama SAID "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, and if you like your plan, you can keep your plan". What did he actually do?

Here's another one of the many articles speculating (no one knows for sure) that Trump said what he said with a particular strategy in mind.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/its_sweetness_and_light_between_nra_and_trump_after_he_chummed_the_water_on_gun_control.html

It's sweetness and light between NRA and Trump after he chummed the water on gun control

Excerpt:

When President Trump made his startling comment during bipartisan televised White House gun discussions about taking guns first and due process later, I suspected he was doing the same thing he had done during similar immigration discussions a few weeks earlier.  He likes to toss out ideas and let them be debated.

He heartens his opponents, and because they are so emotionally driven, they overreach, and he comes across looking reasonable while they look extreme.

His proposal for a deal, when it comes, seems reasonable to the public. 

This is "unpresidential" behavior because in the previously existing culture of politics, a president must not speak until all the implications and ramifications of an idea have been researched and buttoned down.

But for President Trump, being unpresidential is not bug.  It is a feature.
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His critics insist that President Trump is childish, unpresidential, and unreliable.  And they keep getting outsmarted.  Go figure.