it's getting stupid out there. (Read 15240 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2018, 11:20:03 AM »
Myth Busters did a special on bullets and water.  Even with a 50 cal, it only traveled 3 feet when shot into water.  30-06 was like < 2 feet.

So have a jug of water and say the waters for emergencies.

I was going to leave a mini safe in my desk drawer for when I leave to get lunch which is every day.  This way, I don't have to unchamber as often.  But the president of the company said no guns.  So no matter.

Went to the dentist on Tuesday and felt very vulnerable while she's cleaning my teeth....

Yep, most ballistics labs now use water tanks for catching test rounds.  Much easier to find the projectile, less chance of it being damaged hitting water, and it's just as safe as using other media to catch it, like sand.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2018, 11:41:32 AM »
how can i get a job like that?
how can i get a girlfriend with a job like that?
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shdws

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2018, 12:12:13 PM »
Yep, most ballistics labs now use water tanks for catching test rounds.  Much easier to find the projectile, less chance of it being damaged hitting water, and it's just as safe as using other media to catch it, like sand.


I was going to do this with the reloads I just did to see how bad (or not bad) the plating shears off while going down the barrel.  If I shot the projectile into my sand bucket, the bullet would be destroyed (a friend might have already tested this one for me).

I think the kitty litter may work, but its much less dense so you'd need to have more wiggle room for penetration.  Like a 5 gal bucket filled to the brim.  I'd also not like to guinea pig that one  :D

Edit: I do seem to have a knack for derailing threads,  :stopjack:

rklapp

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 12:36:31 PM »
Myth Busters did a special on bullets and water.  Even with a 50 cal, it only traveled 3 feet when shot into water.  30-06 was like < 2 feet.
My remembrance of the episode is that all of the projectiles turned to small fragments except for the shotgun. Wouldn't a ballistic gel be more effective in retrieving the bullet?
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changemyoil66

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2018, 01:03:47 PM »
My remembrance of the episode is that all of the projectiles turned to small fragments except for the shotgun. Wouldn't a ballistic gel be more effective in retrieving the bullet?

Easier to see, yes.  Because they did have a hard time finding the "heads" in the pool. ;D

But with gel, you have to mix it, wait to harden and stuff like that.  Water would be much easier (need to add water to mix anyways).  And can be used for doomsday scenario.

Looked like a HK415/556 at the end.

Cool job until you think about the reason why you're test firing the guns.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2018, 01:57:25 PM »
I was going to do this with the reloads I just did to see how bad (or not bad) the plating shears off while going down the barrel.  If I shot the projectile into my sand bucket, the bullet would be destroyed (a friend might have already tested this one for me).

I think the kitty litter may work, but its much less dense so you'd need to have more wiggle room for penetration.  Like a 5 gal bucket filled to the brim.  I'd also not like to guinea pig that one  :D

Edit: I do seem to have a knack for derailing threads,  :stopjack:

If you watched the video, you see they have ballistic vests along the outside for extra safety if a round penetrates the trough.

Rather than a plastic Homer bucket, you should look into a less penetrable container.  You know, like the clearing chamber at HPD.  If you hit the bottom or sides, it'd be bad if the container allowed the round to escape.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2018, 02:12:44 PM »
So what if your place of business is a vehicle? Building inspector, mobile repair guy, mobile notary public, handyman... Lots of folks work out of their vehicles. Or better yet, live in their vehicle. It is their place of residence and sojurn.

If you live forever.
Hawaii will destroy your guns before giving them back.
It will take you forever and a lot of cost to be a honest
person.
I do not violate any Federal, state, or local laws,
nor do I suggest you do so.
You all do what you think is best.  The state of Hawaii
is not your friend.

Rocky

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2018, 03:06:05 PM »
Yep, most ballistics labs now use water tanks for catching test rounds.  Much easier to find the projectile, less chance of it being damaged hitting water, and it's just as safe as using other media to catch it, like sand.



Dang girl, close the lid.
I like the vid @ 0:30.
She looks likes she's being a bad girl and might get caught !  :rofl: :rofl:
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punaperson

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2018, 08:30:54 PM »
I'm sure all the taxpayer money spent for that equipment and personnel is absolutely necessary for BATFE to assure the safety of the American public. You know, just like the gun running thing. /sarc  >:(

oldfart

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2018, 12:50:04 AM »
A little newspaper humor.....

quote:
Los Angeles Times/TNS The Monterey County high school teacher who accidentally fired a gun during a lecture on "public safety awareness" has publicly apologized for the classroom incident that injured three students. Photo…
The high school teacher in Monterey County, Calif., who accidentally fired a gun during a lecture on "public safety awareness" has publicly apologized for the classroom incident that injured three students.
Dennis Alexander, who also serves as mayor pro-tem of Seaside, made an impromptu speech Thursday at a regularly scheduled City Council meeting filled with hundreds of supporters.
"I want to apologize from the bottom of my heart," Alexander said in footage by local news outlet KSBW-TV. "I can't find the words to say how sorry I am."

Since the Tuesday afternoon event, the community has rallied around the teacher and Sand City reserve police officer.
"We are his family, and we are here to protect what is ours," said one student at the public comment session that, according to Seaside city clerk Lesley Milton-Rerig, lasted for two hours.
"There was such an outpouring of support," Milton-Rerig said. "The council chamber was filled with students and signs, inside and outside. There was nothing on the agenda that would have related to that in any way, but (Alexander) asked the mayor if he could comment."
Alexander, who has served on the council for eight years, thanked those who have stayed in his corner throughout the ordeal.
"It helps a lot. It gets me through the day," he said.
The Seaside High School website lists Anderson as an educator in the career and technical department responsible for introductory classes on fire and police, as well as public safety.
KSBW reported that Alexander fired his service revolver, a Glock 21 semiautomatic .45-caliber pistol.
When the gun went off, Anderson was "attempting to ensure a weapon was safe and free of any bullets" when he pointed it toward the ceiling and inadvertently fired a round, Seaside Police Chief Abdul Pridgen said Wednesday.
Officers were called to Seaside High School after the incident.
Three students, 16 and 17 years old, sustained minor injuries - cuts and scrapes
unquote
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At minumum, that guy should lose his status as a reserve police officer.
I have kids that would make better firearms instructors than that dude.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2018, 12:57:49 AM »
A little newspaper humor.....

quote:
Los Angeles Times/TNS The Monterey County high school teacher who accidentally fired a gun during a lecture on "public safety awareness" has publicly apologized for the classroom incident that injured three students. Photo…
The high school teacher in Monterey County, Calif., who accidentally fired a gun during a lecture on "public safety awareness" has publicly apologized for the classroom incident that injured three students.
Dennis Alexander, who also serves as mayor pro-tem of Seaside, made an impromptu speech Thursday at a regularly scheduled City Council meeting filled with hundreds of supporters.
"I want to apologize from the bottom of my heart," Alexander said in footage by local news outlet KSBW-TV. "I can't find the words to say how sorry I am."

Since the Tuesday afternoon event, the community has rallied around the teacher and Sand City reserve police officer.
"We are his family, and we are here to protect what is ours," said one student at the public comment session that, according to Seaside city clerk Lesley Milton-Rerig, lasted for two hours.
"There was such an outpouring of support," Milton-Rerig said. "The council chamber was filled with students and signs, inside and outside. There was nothing on the agenda that would have related to that in any way, but (Alexander) asked the mayor if he could comment."
Alexander, who has served on the council for eight years, thanked those who have stayed in his corner throughout the ordeal.
"It helps a lot. It gets me through the day," he said.
The Seaside High School website lists Anderson as an educator in the career and technical department responsible for introductory classes on fire and police, as well as public safety.
KSBW reported that Alexander fired his service revolver, a Glock 21 semiautomatic .45-caliber pistol.
When the gun went off, Anderson was "attempting to ensure a weapon was safe and free of any bullets" when he pointed it toward the ceiling and inadvertently fired a round, Seaside Police Chief Abdul Pridgen said Wednesday.
Officers were called to Seaside High School after the incident.
Three students, 16 and 17 years old, sustained minor injuries - cuts and scrapes
unquote
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At minumum, that guy should lose his status as a reserve police officer.
I have kids that would make better firearms instructors than that dude.

All pistols are Glocks, even revolvers!   :rofl:

This guy, and  Mr. "I'm the only person in this room qualified to handle this pistol -- BANG!!" are two examples of just dumb carelessness. 

If you're going to give a demonstration, why on Earth would you even have live ammo where it might be accidentally chambered??  Bring some dummy rounds in separate mags, and LEAVE THE LIVE AMMO IN ANOTHER ROOM!

Unless you're going to do a live fire demonstration, common sense should tell you to clear the gun before starting and keep the live ammo away. 

 :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2018, 01:12:31 AM »
if it's on the interweb it must be true
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Inspector

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2018, 07:19:16 AM »
"My cat is shy of strangers.  She's hiding and will come out when you leave."

Plausible.  No actual cats required.   :geekdanc:
This wouldn't work with my cat. She is the friendly type and will come up and lick strangers toes without hesitation.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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robtmc

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2018, 11:24:52 AM »
All pistols are Glocks, even revolvers!   :rofl:
And undetectable with metal detectors, some liberal politician said so!

hvybarrels

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2018, 05:57:27 PM »
This wouldn't work with my cat. She is the friendly type and will come up and lick strangers toes without hesitation.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Your cat sounds adorable
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Inspector

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2018, 06:26:07 PM »
Your cat sounds adorable
She's deadly to any insect including roaches, geckos, mice and centipedes. She will kill anything that makes it in the house. We recently had every seam and crack caulked before they painted the house and now nothing makes it inside. So now she's bored.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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oldfart

Re: it's getting stupid out there.
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2018, 08:12:20 PM »
Funny...read the shirt
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