I know the native americans were screwed off their land, but were they us citizens at the time? I thought this was all done during the frontier days (dances with wolves period), so more like conqured. History class in high school didnt teach the real story, sorry for my ignorance.

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I know the native americans were screwed off their land, but were they us citizens at the time? I thought this was all done during the frontier days (dances with wolves period), so more like conqured. History class in high school didnt teach the real story, sorry for my ignorance.

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They were there first, it was their land. Our own form of government was copied from what was then the Iroquois Nation. I see what your saying though. In the vernacular of the Borg collective “resistance is futile, you will be assimilated”. They were the first Americans IMHO.....

They were there first, it was their land. Our own form of government was copied from what was then the Iroquois Nation. I see what your saying though. In the vernacular of the Borg collective “resistance is futile, you will be assimilated”. They were the first Americans IMHO.....

If you're going to go with the "who was there "first"", you are going to be going down a very steep, dark and deep rabbit hole. Just look at the history of who peopled the "Hawaiian" islands when (certainly there was more than one "wave" of arrivals, and the new arrivals weren't particularly kind to those who "got there first", or "before them"). The "native Americans" also arrived in waves and weren't above "taking over" from the previous arrivals and/or "neighbors". Basically it's been a series of "conquerors" who, if they were able, displaced and/or destroyed the existing inhabitants. That's what humans do (look for ways to prosper, often without great concern for those who may not prosper as a result). I know, it's not "fair". Everyone should just go back to where they came from, i.e. somewhere in eastern and southern Africa. Ain't gonna happen.

If you're going to go with the "who was there "first"", you are going to be going down a very steep, dark and deep rabbit hole. Just look at the history of who peopled the "Hawaiian" islands when (certainly there was more than one "wave" of arrivals, and the new arrivals weren't particularly kind to those who "got there first", or "before them"). The "native Americans" also arrived in waves and weren't above "taking over" from the previous arrivals and/or "neighbors". Basically it's been a series of "conquerors" who, if they were able, displaced and/or destroyed the existing inhabitants. That's what humans do (look for ways to prosper, often without great concern for those who may not prosper as a result). I know, it's not "fair". Everyone should just go back to where they came from, i.e. somewhere in eastern and southern Africa. Ain't gonna happen.

Not going with the "who was there 1st", but actual US citizens according to law.  Unless the natives were US citizens during the frontier times.  Sorry I was not at my desktop, so I didn't have time to google on my phone.  So the term conquered like you mentioned is more appropriate.

If you're going to go with the "who was there "first"", you are going to be going down a very steep, dark and deep rabbit hole.

I agree.  There were many Indian tribes that fought each other, conquered, took slaves etc.  Same with the Hawaiians, each island was conquered.  Within the islands there were wars and conquest.  Europe went through the same thing.  Basically every place was conquered many times going back to the beginning of man.

At what point in time do you pick the winners and losers.

Think we got off track.  Hanabusa is an idiot.

Trying to get a state of Hawaii race card.
Someone please respond to Ni hao ma.

"JLM", Japanese Lives Matter.  BRB, making a shirt.

"JLM", Japanese Lives Matter.  BRB, making a shirt.

#YellowLivesMatter

#(pound)MeToo

#YellowLivesMatter

#slantsmatter

Maybe Zinke just got up earlier in the day than Hana-wanna.
Does she blast everyone that pronounces something wrong or was it just cuz Zinke thought the the $2 Million bucks could be better spent elsewhere ?
IMHO, just seems like another Dem calling Racism to sidetrack the issue. 
Like gaijin is to haole ?

#slantsmatter

#halfslantsmattertoo

I am offended by her offence, her offence offends me!

I am offended by her offence, her offence offends me!

You sir, I am offended, by your offended of the offended offense. Which offends me.

Found a file photo of hanabugger..... KONICHI-WA bitch......

I think it kinda looks  like her.

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/1920/Fireworks-dirt-and-stolen-trucks-Colleen-Hanabusa-and-the-Honolulu-Raceway-Deal.aspx

She played a part in the closure of Oahu's racetrack
We'll never know what really happened in that closure and the deals that took place. Very shady stuff.