Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border? (Read 5881 times)

punaperson

Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« on: April 04, 2018, 11:52:22 AM »
I'd LOVE to see Tulsi ordered to guard the border! I'd LOVE to see the picture of her dressed in camo while wielding a battlefield weapon of war bearing a "high capcaity clip" (as she calls them).

I'm not sure if she's still in the reserves nor if the Hawaii unit would get called for such duty, but it'd be classic!

Trump to sign proclamation sending National Guard to border immediately

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/trump-to-sign-proclamation-sending-national-guard-to-border-immediately.html

oldfart

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2018, 11:55:32 AM »
That would be rich
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rklapp

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2018, 12:40:06 PM »
I'm still waiting for Trump (or Ige) to build a wall around Hawaii.
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ren

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2018, 12:51:51 PM »
I'm still waiting for Trump (or Ige) to build a wall around Hawaii.

Why would Ige or any other Democrat keep out their voting base?
All the Dems do is take stuff from hardworking legit citizens and give it away to the crumbs of society so they can have votes.
Tulsi is branched MP but I doubt shell go unless theres media to follow.
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punaperson

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 06:39:41 AM »
I'd be surprised if Ige doesn't follow suit, if he hasn't already. (And here's governor Brown's editorial "Why We Need Gun Control Now" http://www.instyle.com/news/oregon-new-gun-law-2018)

Oregon governor tells Trump she'll REFUSE to send National Guard troops to the Mexican border if he calls them up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5582597/Oregon-governor-tells-Trump-shell-REFUSE-send-National-Guard-troops-Mexican-border.html#ixzz5BogcSRv2

The governor of Oregon says she'll resist any attempt by Donald Trump to deploy her state's National Guard detachment to protect America's southern border, and California's governor appears poised to follow suit.

The president signed a proclamation on Wednesday that orders Defense Secretary James Mattis to 'request use of National Guard personnel to assist' with the Homeland Security Department's existing border patrol operations.

But governors, whose duties include commanding their states' Guard units, can say no.

'If @realDonaldTrump asks me to deploy Oregon Guard troops to the Mexico border, I'll say no,' Oregon Gov. Kate Brown tweeted Wednesday.

'As Commander of Oregon's Guard, I’m deeply troubled by Trump’s plan to militarize our border.'

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, said Wednesday that he welcomes the National Guard order from Washington, and noted that 'Texas has maintained a continuous presence of National Guard members along the border' since he took office.

drck1000

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 07:14:53 AM »
Heard an interview with the "Repulican" Mayor of El Paso.  He mentioned something about El Paso (pop 2.7 Mil) is one of the safest cities in the US.  I'm gonna look into that one.  He also mentioned something about a "migrant caravan" making it's way north across Mexico.  Whut?

robtmc

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 07:21:51 AM »

'If @realDonaldTrump asks me to deploy Oregon Guard troops to the Mexico border, I'll say no,' Oregon Gov. Kate Brown tweeted Wednesday.

WTF sort of speech is that? 

How do you pronounce a word with an ampersand as the first letter ?

punaperson

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2018, 07:29:29 AM »
WTF sort of speech is that? 

How do you pronounce a word with an ampersand as the first letter ?
The quoste says that was what she "tweeted"... and the article has an image of the tweet. This is the world we live in. Politics by tweet.

punaperson

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2018, 07:32:20 AM »
Heard an interview with the "Repulican" Mayor of El Paso.  He mentioned something about El Paso (pop 2.7 Mil) is one of the safest cities in the US.  I'm gonna look into that one.  He also mentioned something about a "migrant caravan" making it's way north across Mexico.  Whut?
Dude. The "migrant caravan" has been among the lead stories for the past week... Trump's main topic of tweeting. Today he congratulated Mexico on capitulating on their threat and disbanding the caravan rather than aiding and abetting it. Of course neither I nor Trump believe a word coming from the Mexican government.

oldfart

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2018, 07:46:19 AM »
Kate Brown sounds like treason to me.
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punaperson

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2018, 08:46:31 AM »
Kate Brown sounds like treason to me.
I'm not sure how you get from "common sense gun solutions" and "more sensible gun policy" and refusing a presidential order to make the National Guard available to "treason". Oh, wait... yes I do.

Every other sentence in that editorial from the governor is faulty in one way or another, but here's a good example:

"Confronting this problem demands that we take a pragmatic approach to gun reform. Universal background checks are a good start, and so is a ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. These are weapons of war designed to cause mass casualties, not toys. And to say they’re for sport or even self-defense goes beyond what is reasonable."

Note all the code-word euphemisms: "pragmatic", "good start", and "beyond reasonable" reveal the true agenda: the only solution (the "final solution"?) that can "work" is to disarm all non-government agents, i.e. "civilians". "Pragmatic" means that we have to do something that "works" and can't be bogged down with abstract or theoretical concepts like "rights" and "the law" and the Constitution. "Good start" obviously means that any of the things she lists, including the bans on certain items, are merely the "first step" in a nearly never-ending list of demands until an armed citizenry is disarmed. And "beyond reasonable" in another attempt to make those who disagree (in this case with civilian disarmament in particular) with any view they state as being "unreasonable", "irrational", "delusional" "deplorable" "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic — Islamophobic — you name it" and "irredeemable".

Treasonous indeed!

changemyoil66

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2018, 09:09:38 AM »
Sessons has to step it up and go after all these states/cities who refuse to follow federal law.  Tipping off that ICE is coming and stuff like that.  Maybe there's funding in the ombibus for this?

s197

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2018, 10:01:17 AM »
I'd LOVE to see Tulsi ordered to guard the border! I'd LOVE to see the picture of her dressed in camo while wielding a battlefield weapon of war bearing a "high capcaity clip" (as she calls them).

I'm not sure if she's still in the reserves nor if the Hawaii unit would get called for such duty, but it'd be classic!

Trump to sign proclamation sending National Guard to border immediately

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/trump-to-sign-proclamation-sending-national-guard-to-border-immediately.html
I don't think you'll get your wish. The national guard is providing recon primarily and won't engage with civilians. They won't be armed.

We've done this in the past (Bush and Obama) so this is mostly a non event.

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dustoff003

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2018, 11:30:26 AM »
I don't think you'll get your wish. The national guard is providing recon primarily and won't engage with civilians. They won't be armed.

We've done this in the past (Bush and Obama) so this is mostly a non event.

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NG Soldiers on previous SW border missions were armed and had ROE just as they would for any other mission/deployment.

groveler

Re: Will Tulsi be ordered to guard the border?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2018, 02:14:26 PM »
Trump can always federalize the guard which makes them active duty.
Normally it is illegal to use Active duty military on American soil EXCEPT if
drugs are involved.  Remember the Waco Texas massacre of branch Davidians
using tanks?
If Democrat politicians can pull it off with no consequences perhaps
the present administration can learn from them, and seal the border,
using the same excuse, "we did it to protect the children".