Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov? (Read 21770 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »
Governor has until July 10th to sign or veto it.  If he does neither it automatically becomes law.

That's a shitty cop out.  So in the future for any controversial bill, "I never signed it".

macsak

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »
That's a shitty cop out.  So in the future for any controversial bill, "I never signed it".


exactly, but it's part of our system
and has been for a long time
it rarely, if ever comes up though

however, da gov has veto power, so it's really no excuse


zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2018, 11:17:37 AM »
So far no action on SB2046 and SB2436.  Looks like they will become law without the governor's signature since he hasn't put them on the VETO list which is due on July 10th.

changemyoil66

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2018, 07:02:10 PM »
Doesnt even have the balls to sign it. Yet has TV commercial about guns.

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ren

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2018, 07:29:56 PM »
Hanabuttah called him out on his gun control leg lies
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changemyoil66

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2018, 08:47:55 AM »
We all need to call and email to VETO.

I didn't see anything in both bills that exclude LE or federal agencies.  So if HPD were to confiscate one, wouldn't they be in possession and be breaking the law?

Like the 10 rd handgun mag, the law states HPD are excluded.

zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2018, 09:20:23 AM »
We all need to call and email to VETO.

I didn't see anything in both bills that exclude LE or federal agencies.  So if HPD were to confiscate one, wouldn't they be in possession and be breaking the law?

Like the 10 rd handgun mag, the law states HPD are excluded.

Dont work that way.  Its part of their job.  Or else they wouldnt be able to confiscate drugs too.

zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2018, 09:21:45 AM »
Doesnt even have the balls to sign it. Yet has TV commercial about guns.

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Ige is a moderate to conservativr on gun control.  Hanabusa is extreme on gun control.  Between the two id choose Ige.

Remember most of our Republican/conservative legislators voted for the bill too.

changemyoil66

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2018, 09:44:07 AM »
Dont work that way.  Its part of their job.  Or else they wouldnt be able to confiscate drugs too.

What about military who might have to train with it?  Special forces need to be proficient with all types of weapons and their attachments (even muskets).  So there is the 134 subsection that excludes military while on the job.

zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2018, 04:58:00 PM »
Nevermind, he signed it


Bump stocks banned, plus additional gun safety measures signed into law

http://www.kitv.com/story/38605621/bump-stocks-banned-plus-additional-gun-safety-measures-signed-into-law

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2018, 06:03:55 PM »
A bump-stock is a weapon.

Learn something new everyday, huh?

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The Governor signed a bill (Act 157) into law prohibiting the manufacture, importation, sale transfer and
possession of bump fire stocks, multi-burst trigger activators, and trigger cranks- the same weapon used
by the gunman in the Las Vegas shooting that killed almost 60 people.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2018, 06:10:17 PM »
Nevermind, he signed it


Bump stocks banned, plus additional gun safety measures signed into law

http://www.kitv.com/story/38605621/bump-stocks-banned-plus-additional-gun-safety-measures-signed-into-law

Also in the bills was shortening the time to turn over guns in a domestic case from 30 to 7 days.  I can't understand how, if you think someone who owns guns OR NOT is a threat, why not lock HIM up instead of his guns?

Makes no sense.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Gordyf

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2018, 06:29:55 PM »
I would like to hear how many bump stocks get turned in.
Understand there is a 30 day amnesty in which to do this.
Betcha we don't see a one
Aloha
Gordy

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2018, 06:41:16 PM »
I would like to hear how many bump stocks get turned in.
Understand there is a 30 day amnesty in which to do this.
Betcha we don't see a one

Not really 30 days. Deadline is 1 July according to the article.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2018, 07:02:47 PM »
I would like to hear how many bump stocks get turned in.
Understand there is a 30 day amnesty in which to do this.
Betcha we don't see a one

Bump stocks dont have to be turned in.  You could probably permanently disable the feature, sell it to someone onnthe mainland, or possibly disassemble it.

changemyoil66

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2018, 09:12:00 PM »
Idk if there is a grace period.

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zippz

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2018, 09:15:47 PM »
Guess he's proud of his achievement.


I signed into law SB 2046, now Act 157, which prohibits the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of bump fire stocks, multi-burst trigger activators, and trigger cranks – the same devices used by the gunman in the deadly Las Vegas shooting.

I’m proud that Hawai‘i has one of the lowest rates of gun violence in the nation thanks to our strict gun laws. At the same time, we must protect the rights of gun owners and hunters to own and use guns safely. This legislation will help us uphold the rights of gun owners while keeping guns out of the hands of mentally unfit individuals.

During the bill signing ceremony at the Hawai‘i State Capitol, Honolulu Police Chief Susan Ballard announced a 30-day amnesty program that allows bump stock owners to turn in the firearm at any police station or to call 9-1-1 for officers to pick it up.

SB 2046: http://bit.ly/2m71oSM
Video: http://bit.ly/2zqk21B
Photos: http://bit.ly/2MXgRAg

#HIGov #HINews #BanBumpStock #VegasStrong



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2018, 09:40:31 PM »
Idk if there is a grace period.

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That's right.  I mixed up the 2 things.

Bump stock ban was upon signing but has that 30-day "amnesty" according to the police chief. The new 7-day surrender thing starts 1 July.

 :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

London808

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2018, 10:05:26 PM »
As I have said before this law does not ban items such as the slide fire stock, these items do not meet the definition of a bump fire stock as defined in the law.

"Bump fire stock" means a butt stock designed to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm and designed, made, or altered to increase the rate of fire achievable with such firearm by using energy from the recoil of the firearm to generate a reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.

The stock of a rifle does not increase the achievable rate of fire. Any semi automatic firearm can be bump fire without a stock.
The reciprocating action is a function of all semi automatic firearms and not of the stock.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

Aloha808

Re: Bump Stock Bill moving to Gov?
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2018, 11:57:21 PM »
Do not comply