Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty? (Read 14971 times)

Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2018, 09:42:43 AM »
Exactly..... Hawaii is, as you say, a beautiful place but the majority of the populace are truly pathetic.

Got news for you, the majority of the people born and raised in Hawaii are not pathetic.  On the contrary, those people who come to live in Hawaii from somewhere else, bringing their own equally offensive behaviors are pathetic.


My old lady loves it here and that is the only reason I stay but I’ll never give up trying to convince her that there are better places for us to live...…

Glad to hear your wife loves Hawaii, she has wonderful taste!

mrgaf

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2018, 10:40:59 AM »


Whatever.... you’d argue with a corpse..... was wondering how long it would take for you to chime in with your diatribe... :rofl: :rofl:  :rofl:
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 03:12:02 PM by mrgaf »
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

aieahound

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2018, 11:20:07 AM »
Agreed.. And don’t forget the banning of fireworks too. And the limitations of places to target practice shooting past 100 yards. Anything you do with your car/truck gotta get recon.No more money to finish the rail. No race race tracks. No more ferry.. Oh geez, and the list goes on.. lol

It's getting worse.
But I'm not sure if it's not because of the increased Mainland influence.
Hawaii used to be live and let live.

ren

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2018, 11:33:50 AM »
Got news for you, the majority of the people born and raised in Hawaii are not pathetic.  On the contrary, those people who come to live in Hawaii from somewhere else, bringing their own equally offensive behaviors are pathetic.

Glad to hear your wife loves Hawaii, she has wonderful taste!

Those are both broad generalizations so you can put the war flag down....relax. Not all people who come from outside Hawaii "bring equally offensive behaviors".
I was born and raised here as well. So what. What makes Hawaii great is the mix of ethnicities and talents we bring to the table. What makes it less than ideal is our current political leadership. The stifling of ideas and freedoms to cater to the norm and true progressions.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 11:53:36 AM by ren »
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ren

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2018, 11:47:20 AM »
To add its mrgafs liberty to express his opinion.
As is yours to express Hawaiian exclusiveness and the ousting of the US military from the 50th state.
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PeaShooter

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2018, 01:39:25 PM »
Maybe it's not much of a consolation but once you leave Hawaii, you can at least claim the firearms are no longer yours, if the need arises. The database may lead the government to you, but unless they can prove you still possessed them you should be okay. IF the system works like its supposed to.

I wonder, what if you do decide to sell and the new owner then wants to sell also?    Can the new owner sell, because according to Hawaii, you still are the registered owner on paper since they didn't un-register the guns.
New owner can still sell, even back to a resident of Hawaii. A while back I purchased a firearm from Cabelas on the mainland that was still registered to someone at HPD. It just gave them a laugh. As long as your FFL paperwork checks out I'm guessing it will be fine.

groveler

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2018, 03:40:28 PM »
Those are both broad generalizations so you can put the war flag down....relax. Not all people who come from outside Hawaii "bring equally offensive behaviors".
I was born and raised here as well. So what. What makes Hawaii great is the mix of ethnicities and talents we bring to the table. What makes it less than ideal is our current political leadership. The stifling of ideas and freedoms to cater to the norm and true progressions.
This will probably get me banned again.
I gave up figuring out the races of people
I deal with here in Hawaii.
What I despise is Democrats.
No matter what the race is.
It is the character of you and not
the color of your skin.
Democrats should all be
eliminated,
per Pol Pot
" Since he is of no use anymore, there is no gain if he lives and no loss if he dies."

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2018, 03:49:02 PM »
This will probably get me banned again.
I gave up figuring out the races of people
I deal with here in Hawaii.
What I despise is Democrats.
No matter what the race is.
It is the character of you and not
the color of your skin.
Democrats should all be
eliminated,
per Pol Pot
" Since he is of no use anymore, there is no gain if he lives and no loss if he dies."

How many times have you been banned on here?  Just curious, since you mentioned it ump-teen times.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 08:09:34 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2018, 06:16:11 PM »
Whatever.... you’d argue with a corpse..... was wondering how long it would take for you to chime in with your diatribe... :rofl: :rofl:  :rofl:


You are the one, who made the blanketed statement that the majority of the populace of Hawaii are pathetic.

Not me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2018, 08:14:11 PM »

You are the one, who made the blanketed statement that the majority of the populace of Hawaii are pathetic.

Not me.

On the contrary, those people who come to live in Hawaii from somewhere else, bringing their own equally offensive behaviors are pathetic.

Nothing more hypocritical than defending one state's population being called "pathetic" by calling the 49 other states' populations pathetic!   :rofl:

"No I'm not!  You are!"   

Pathetic!    :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2018, 09:42:43 PM »
Those are both broad generalizations so you can put the war flag down....relax. Not all people who come from outside Hawaii "bring equally offensive behaviors".
I was born and raised here as well. So what. What makes Hawaii great is the mix of ethnicities and talents we bring to the table. What makes it less than ideal is our current political leadership. The stifling of ideas and freedoms to cater to the norm and true progressions.

I did not say, nor would ever make a blanketed statement that all people who come from other places are pathetic.  I responded to Mr. Graf's statement by saying only those people born abroad, who come to Hawaii and bring their offensive behaviors are equally pathetic.  I was not referring to the many people who settle in Hawaii and adopt as well as contribute to the ever evolving local culture in the islands.

Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2018, 09:50:00 PM »
To add its mrgafs liberty to express his opinion.

Never challenged his right to express his opinion.

Just offered a rebuttal to his personal attack calling the majority of locals living in Hawaii and who are members in this forum, as being pathetic, that's all.      :shaka:


As is yours to express Hawaiian exclusiveness and the ousting of the US military from the 50th state.

You should get  :stopjack: and not open a can of worms in regards to the legal status of Hawaii.

ren

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2018, 09:53:06 PM »
Never challenged his right to express his opinion.

Just offered a rebuttal to his personal attack calling the majority of locals living in Hawaii and who are members in this forum, as being pathetic, that's all.      :shaka:

You should get  :stopjack: and not open a can of worms in regards to the legal status of Hawaii.

Last I checked Hawaii is the 50th State  :shaka: no can of worms to be opened. It is a fact.
I appreciate the freedom the USA has afforded to me. As I mentioned before, its too bad the local leaders don't recognize that.
My observations parallel z60's. The local leaders have no problem taking from hard-working people and giving it to those that don't want to work. Those that receive those "benefits" are more than willing to give up what ever rights they don't exercise in order to maintain their lifestyle. One example is public housing. It was designed to be a safety net and NOT a permanent residence for generations of families. That's one reason I stopped delivering food for Meals on Wheels. A lot of these people have the means to get food but are too lazy to get it for themselves. If they have elder kids that can be up early in the morning playing video games they can certainly go get food down the street. Liberty is not granted to these people, they are issued a wheelchair owned by the govt. and the govt. pushes the wheelchair for them
Anyways, that's my rant.

By the way, ICBM launch sites are marked on the street by the blue reflective markers. With that said, we got a sh!t ton of them on this island alone!
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 10:05:22 PM by ren »
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Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2018, 10:06:05 PM »
Last I checked Hawaii is the 50th State  :shaka: no can of worms to be opened. It is a fact.

If you really want to open this topic again, I submit to you the following: http://hawaiiankingdom.org/pdf/Dr_deZayas_Memo_2_25_2018.pdf

The following document from the UN Human Rights Council is yet another example of mounting international evidence recognizing the Hawaiian Kingdom, as being an illegally occupied nation by the US.  Consequently, a nation that is recognized as an illegally occupied nation, based by both international and US Constitutional Law, can't be part of the US, nor be even considered a 50th state.

Enjoy!    :shaka:

ren

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2018, 10:09:02 PM »
If you really want to open this topic again, I submit to you the following: http://hawaiiankingdom.org/pdf/Dr_deZayas_Memo_2_25_2018.pdf

The following document from the UN Human Rights Council is yet another example of mounting international evidence recognizing the Hawaiian Kingdom, as being an illegally occupied nation by the US.  Consequently, a nation that is recognized as an illegally occupied nation, based by both international and US Constitutional Law, can't be part of the US, nor be even considered a 50th state.

Enjoy!    :shaka:

by all means, as a US citizen you are welcome to try and kick me out of your kingdom
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Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2018, 10:14:19 PM »
by all means, as a US citizen you are welcome to try and kick me out of your kingdom

For someone who has served in the armed forces of the US and swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution, I guess you have a great disdain for that oath in your incessant hate of the restoration of the Hawaiian Nation that is the legal remedy based on the US Constitution.

ren

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2018, 10:20:04 PM »

For someone who has served in the armed forces of the US and swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution, I guess you have a great disdain for that oath in your incessant hate of the restoration of the Hawaiian Nation that is the legal remedy based on the US Constitution.


You make a lot of assumptions. I referenced no hate. This has nothing to do with my service. As a property owner and US citizen, that document you referenced stated that people like me have no right to lands here in Hawaii. So like I said. Try and take it back. I'm certainly not the only land owner here in Hawaii.
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Kuleana

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2018, 10:41:19 PM »
You make a lot of assumptions. I referenced no hate. This has nothing to do with my service. As a property owner and US citizen, that document you referenced stated that people like me have no right to lands here in Hawaii. So like I said. Try and take it back. I'm certainly not the only land owner here in Hawaii.

 :stopjack:

scorpio ps

Re: Do the people of Hawaii not understand the word liberty?
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2018, 12:52:14 AM »
The major issue here is the lack of humbleness. I have the salution to this thread. Since I don't understand the word liberty and some of you do. How about I continue living here and the rest of you Einstein's get TF out. I'll be real blunt. Take your horn blowing, red light running, dodging in and out of traffic, non stop complaining about stuff that doesn't matter, arrogant ass back to where you came from. Go back to freedom. We can do without you.