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mrgaf

Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« on: June 05, 2018, 05:08:08 PM »
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Drakiir84

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 05:48:58 PM »
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justin1098

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 06:36:55 PM »
he had a lot of trouble getting his pants open. Must be wearing 5.11 tactical pants and belt. Appendix carry just seems illogical to me. We always make sure not to sweep others and ourselves with a loaded firearm, why then put it in a holster pointed at your wedding tackle?
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Flapp_Jackson

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 07:12:59 PM »
They should rename it to APPENDECTOMY CARRY."

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drck1000

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 07:28:30 PM »
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London808

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2018, 11:23:10 PM »
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changemyoil66

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 09:10:48 AM »


I'm trying to figure out where this took place.  Might be a gun shop?  Targets, Glock flag, and other molon labe type stuff on the walls.  Med kit seems accessible.
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Rocky

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 06:08:56 PM »
No such thing as "Accidental" discharge (though he may never discharge again.  :shake:).
GCode Incog Holster fully covers the trigger so . . .
1)  he either tucked something in there with it
2)  something was already in there
3)  guns really do shoot people   :crazy:.
 
   Thats why I ALWAYS   holster my firearm in an IWB OUTSIDE of my waistband just for that reason.

I could not tell at first if the lady was bringing a Tourniquet or an Israeli bandage.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2018, 08:16:30 AM »
Was reading about this on another forum.  A bunch felt that it was either staged or possibly a training video.  Many pointed out some things that some made me think maybe staged, but some were pretty nutty.  Like one guy mentioned the dog.  That the dog was somehow "knowing" and somehow experienced around guns so it didn't panic.   ;D
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zippz

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2018, 08:31:32 AM »
Coupd be staged, the worker seemed too calm like this happens everyday there.  If it is real, the gun looked too long to be a glock43.  Looked like a glock 19 in a glock 26 open ended holster.

Also there is a difference between negligent and accidental discharges.  Negligence requires someone to do something or not do something that causes the gun to unintentionally fire.  Accidental is a person does everything they reasonably should but the gun still goes off unintentionally.
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drck1000

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 08:56:02 AM »
Quote from: zippz on June 07, 2018, 08:31:32 AM
Coupd be staged, the worker seemed too calm like this happens everyday there.  If it is real, the gun looked too long to be a glock43.  Looked like a glock 19 in a glock 26 open ended holster.

Also there is a difference between negligent and accidental discharges.  Negligence requires someone to do something or not do something that causes the gun to unintentionally fire.  Accidental is a person does everything they reasonably should but the gun still goes off unintentionally.
You're referring to the lady?  Many comments about being staged was about her and how cool she was.  She already had gloves on when doing something in the background.  That and they all seemed to jump at the 911 thing, she delegated 911 to the third guy, etc.  Something I recall practicing in the NRA RSO scenario exercise.  That said, I could possibly seeing someone being that cool.  For me, I'd likely have to get over at least a couple of seconds of "what the hell just happened" before going for the medical stuff. 
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changemyoil66

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 11:02:57 AM »
I had to watch the video a few times.  I was like " how did she put her gloves on so fast?"  But then realized, they were already on.

Does anyone know what kind of business this is?  Gun targets on the wall, Glock flag, and molon labe type stuff on the wall.
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Rocky

Re: Negligent or Accidental or Something Else?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2018, 07:19:30 PM »
Quote from: zippz on June 07, 2018, 08:31:32 AM
Coupd be staged, the worker seemed too calm like this happens everyday there.  If it is real, the gun looked too long to be a glock43.  Looked like a glock 19 in a glock 26 open ended holster.

Also there is a difference between negligent and accidental discharges.  Negligence requires someone to do something or not do something that causes the gun to unintentionally fire.  Accidental is a person does everything they reasonably should but the gun still goes off unintentionally.
Sorry Zippz, luv ya man but.....


Via Merram Webster
Definition of accident
1 a : an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance
2 a : an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance

Definition of negligent
1 a : marked by or given to neglect especially habitually or culpably
b : failing to exercise the care expected of a reasonably prudent person in like circumstances
2 : marked by a carelessly easy manner

Definition of  this vid as an "Accident " is only justified as  "an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance"
or
 "3)  guns really do shoot people"

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