Range Belt loadouts (Read 22349 times)

drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2020, 10:38:00 AM »
Ronin also sells a 1.5 inch inner belt, but that increases the price of a $200 set up to $240.  They do not allow a swap.
I think I have an extra 1.5" belt.  I'll have to check when I get home.  It's the hooks facing out config.  I think it's black.  Figured I'd mention that since you seem to be obsessed with color scheme. . .  :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2020, 10:51:44 AM »
I think I have an extra 1.5" belt.  I'll have to check when I get home.  It's the hooks facing out config.  I think it's black.  Figured I'd mention that since you seem to be obsessed with color scheme. . .  :rofl:

OCD, gotta be all matchy matchy.  Or gotta buy a multicam plate carrier.

Same reason why never add RDS to pistols yet.  I would have to buy multiple.

changemyoil66

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2020, 02:49:42 PM »
One practical reason is you might want to hang onto any mags you ejected during a tactical reload.  Those rounds might come in handy if you cycle through all your mags.  Another would be that, in a real hostile environment, you don't want to lose the empties.  Dump pouches are a convenient way to stow them during reloads.  Trying to squeeze them back into your carrier can be (1) difficult, and (2) confusing if you accidentally reach for one that's already empty.

Realistically, for training, it's just a convenient place to carry empties rather than having to police them up later.
But in reality, 90% of the time used when picking up brass. Less trips to the brass bucket.

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drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2020, 10:54:57 AM »
OCD, gotta be all matchy matchy.  Or gotta buy a multicam plate carrier.

Same reason why never add RDS to pistols yet.  I would have to buy multiple.
You don’t see the inner belt...

The don’t sell purple RDSs.  :rofl:

zippz

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2020, 11:55:33 AM »
But in reality, 90% of the time used when picking up brass. Less trips to the brass bucket.

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I don't wear a dump pouch anymore as I don't see a use for it and hate it when it bounces around when running..  At the range I'll dump mags into the pockets and use my hat to collect brass.  in emergency situations, you might do one reload or two at the very most.  Those can be put in the pockets or back on the belt.  I can see the dump pouch being useful if you get into a firefight and go through 10 magazines or need to collect evidence and intel in a warzone really fast, but in the civilian world I just don't see a big need for one.  If belt real estate is tight, I'd rather have a good first aid kit, flashlight, and multitool.  If you're using a plate carrier and have the belt real estate open, then it wouldn't hurt to have one.

zippz

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2020, 04:27:43 PM »
Followup on my rangebelt:  https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=31624.msg326738#msg326738

I've used my range belt a few times at the range and for pistol and rifle classes.  The belt has worked out very well overall. 

Belt:  The Ronin belt is solid with both the inner velcro belt and the HSGI grip belt.  Only problem is the large Safariland holster hanger detaches the velcro at the attachment area causing a little holster sag and flop.  Could also be due to the gun and holster being a bit heavier.  I'm going to try using belt keepers or zip ties to secure it better.

Pouches:  Pouches work great and no problems securing the magazines.  I was originally going to get the "no gap" double pouches to save space on the belt, but the gap makes for a more secure grip on the mags.

First Aid:  It's not bad being in the small of the back and I can roll over it.  A little annoying sitting down on a chair but not too bad.  I would get a smaller one or move it  if I had to sit in a chair all day.

Condor pouch:  works well, but my double CR123 flashlight (on the short side) barely fits in it.

Holster:  The QUBL QLS system works as advertised and very secure.  It is a bit "thicker" than a standard Safariland hanger so there is a little more flop when drawing the gun and doesn't meet USPSA Production rules on distance to the inner belt.  I'm trying to figure out a way to attach a leg strap to it for a smoother draw.

zippz

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2020, 04:40:33 PM »
I bought the new Safariland QUBL hanger for my 6390 holster.  This one has 3 different height adjustments that can be easily changed with the pull tab, is rated for retention, and has built in support for the QLS forks.  There are other models with some of the features, but this is the newest version with all 3 features.  It's very sturdy and can take a lot of abuse.  I'm sure a bad guy could break it, but I'd be difficult to do in a struggle for the gun.

Downside is it's a bit heavy and bulky.  The holster sits a bit farther away from the body so there could be a little bit more flop when drawing the gun.  It also doesn't make USPSA production class due to the distance from the holster to the inside belt.  I'm trying to figure out how to attach a leg strap to it.

https://safariland.com/products/qubl-vertical-belt-loop








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drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2020, 07:52:49 AM »
I bought the new Safariland QUBL hanger for my 6390 holster.  This one has 3 different height adjustments that can be easily changed with the pull tab, is rated for retention, and has built in support for the QLS forks.  There are other models with some of the features, but this is the newest version with all 3 features.  It's very sturdy and can take a lot of abuse.  I'm sure a bad guy could break it, but I'd be difficult to do in a struggle for the gun.

Downside is it's a bit heavy and bulky.  The holster sits a bit farther away from the body so there could be a little bit more flop when drawing the gun.  It also doesn't make USPSA production class due to the distance from the holster to the inside belt.  I'm trying to figure out how to attach a leg strap to it.

SNIP

Wow that thing looks super bulky.  I sill use their regular UBL attachment and it provides enough drop, at least for me. 

For the leg strap, I've been using the one from T-Rex Arms.  Though I've seen G-Code and a few others come out with similar recently.  Pretty easy to install behind the UBL.  Tougher for some hangar mounts/plates, but lots of examples on the interwebs. 

For the hangar "detach", you can fill the gap with velcro adhesive strips.  I have done that with a couple of holsters for my competition setups.  Some companies sell smaller tabs of velcro, but I bought the strips on Amazon.  The "outdoor grade" adhesive ones have held up well. 

zippz

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2020, 10:14:52 AM »
Wow that thing looks super bulky.  I sill use their regular UBL attachment and it provides enough drop, at least for me. 

For the leg strap, I've been using the one from T-Rex Arms.  Though I've seen G-Code and a few others come out with similar recently.  Pretty easy to install behind the UBL.  Tougher for some hangar mounts/plates, but lots of examples on the interwebs. 

For the hangar "detach", you can fill the gap with velcro adhesive strips.  I have done that with a couple of holsters for my competition setups.  Some companies sell smaller tabs of velcro, but I bought the strips on Amazon.  The "outdoor grade" adhesive ones have held up well.

The QLS adds most of the bulk, but it is the most robust system.  It's harder to tear away than the gcode.  It is slimmer than if you bought everything separately and put it together.  Velcro ties may work, I'll try that.
I haven't figured out how to attach a leg strap since there's no mounting points.  I may have to drill a hole to attach a trex arms strap.

drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2020, 11:02:14 AM »
The QLS adds most of the bulk, but it is the most robust system.  It's harder to tear away than the gcode.  It is slimmer than if you bought everything separately and put it together.  Velcro ties may work, I'll try that.
I haven't figured out how to attach a leg strap since there's no mounting points.  I may have to drill a hole to attach a trex arms strap.
My leg strap goes between the UBL (mid-ride) and the QLS plate.  Can the two screws in the mount from the QLS plate to the QUBL hanger come off?  Can't tell from the pic.  Would need to see the other side of that plate.   

changemyoil66

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2020, 11:55:25 AM »
I ordered my war belt last night.  I'll post pics in a few weeks when it comes in and I set it up.  I tried my friends Blue Alpha one and my Gcode hoslter doesnt clip correctly.  I may dremel it a little until I decide to upgrade the part where the holster attaches to the outer belt.  It's like 3/16 inches off.

Ordered the Esstac double pistol mag and single rifle mag holders. The pistol was from Esstac website, blem.  And the rifle mag from SKD Tactical.

Also gonna attach a TQ holder kydex that KM Concepts made in the back of the belt.  No IFAK, that's on my range bag.  Will probably upgrade later and put on the belt (Blue Force Gear IFAK).

Got a Glock made K-Bar that I also want to put on the belt.  Got it on Amazon when Glock first released it, it was $19.99 at the time. The sheath it comes with sucks, but it may have to do till I upgrade it later.

aaronc5362

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2020, 07:20:23 AM »
I bought the new Safariland QUBL hanger for my 6390 holster.  This one has 3 different height adjustments that can be easily changed with the pull tab, is rated for retention, and has built in support for the QLS forks.  There are other models with some of the features, but this is the newest version with all 3 features.  It's very sturdy and can take a lot of abuse.  I'm sure a bad guy could break it, but I'd be difficult to do in a struggle for the gun.

Downside is it's a bit heavy and bulky.  The holster sits a bit farther away from the body so there could be a little bit more flop when drawing the gun.  It also doesn't make USPSA production class due to the distance from the holster to the inside belt.  I'm trying to figure out how to attach a leg strap to it.

https://safariland.com/products/qubl-vertical-belt-loop







I forget where i bought it from, maybe amazon, but its a safariland t spacer .

It has lil bit extra long screws and of course a spacer and some plastic or rubber spacers of different lengths. And it was designed to extend the qls fork outward. Prob could fit a leg strap behind it. I dont, i just wanted it canted outward. Ill try find it after i post this.

Edit: ok maybe it didnt come with o-shaped spacers, just the t spacer. Go home depot buy sone washers and screws and extend it out lol. Create enough space between the female qls fork and qubl thing. And loctite it lol
Just make sure you get yfs or grade 8 or grade 10 button head bolts/screws.

Edit again: after searching my orders i got a hda drop kit from ebay. Its like 35 bucks and that has the spacers i was talking bout. But its 35 bucks and you dont need all the extra stuff. I was able to drop 1 holster offset, and another just extended out. I adapt pretty well so i got all kine holsters from bca to tr holsters, to leather to als. Im weird
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drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2020, 09:55:04 AM »
If (or when) I get to replacing my current setup, I want to try this holster mount/adapter. A couple of buddies on the mainland have tried it and they’ve reported good things.

https://truenorth-usa.com/product/modular-holster-adapter/

Otherwise, I’m happy with Safariland for training belt. I use other mounts for competition though.

changemyoil66

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2020, 06:01:24 PM »
Esstac mag carrier came in. Blem sale.

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drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2020, 11:37:41 AM »
Esstac mag carrier came in. Blem sale.

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What was the blem?  The stitching in the back? 

I've bought blems from a number of companies over the years.  Geissele chainsaw lower, BCM, etc.  I couldn't even tell what was up.  Even with the chainsaw lower.  A couple of folks at OGC couldn't even determine what was up. 

6716J

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2020, 01:05:44 PM »
First thanks for all the ideas...

So I've got my belt mostly together now. Did it all on the cheap but don't think it came out badly.

Still missing a first aid kit but, it's always a work in progress.

L to R

Condor LCS belt (I added the cobra buckle myself and saved $40)
NiteIze carabiner that folds nice and flat
5.11 flex double pistol mag holder.
5.11 flex double AR mag holder
5.11 flex dump pouch
Safariland mid-ride with the QLS
Safariland GLS holster. It holds my M&P and Polymer80 G19. Haven't tried the 1911 in yet but watched a video where a guy put 8 different size & type guns in it and worked

Can't decide if I want to mount a fixed blade or not.

With the pistol mag pouches, the shorter magazines want to get buried all the way to the base plate. I saw somewhere that people have put cutoff pieces of 1/2 PVC in the bottom of the to give standoff room. I'll have to try that.

Again thanks. Hope to see and meet a bunch of you at the range when the world improves.

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drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2020, 01:11:55 PM »
SNIP

With the pistol mag pouches, the shorter magazines want to get buried all the way to the base plate. I saw somewhere that people have put cutoff pieces of 1/2 PVC in the bottom of the to give standoff room. I'll have to try that.

Again thanks. Hope to see and meet a bunch of you at the range when the world improves.
I had similar issue with HSGI pouches, where only maybe 1/2" or so of the mag was exposed above the pouch.  I put sections of foam on the bottom.  It was spacers that came with another mag pouch that I cut down.  I dunno the material, but it's like the black insulation on piping.  It's a little flexible, but dense enough to use as a spacer.

With the ESSTAC pouches I have, the G19 mags will sit pretty low.  With the KYWI insert, it has enough "grab" on the mags that I can set them at the right level when I am loading up the pouches, but the mags don't move around, even when wogging (essentially a fast walk). 

macsak

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2020, 01:18:15 PM »
I had similar issue with HSGI pouches, where only maybe 1/2" or so of the mag was exposed above the pouch.  I put sections of foam on the bottom.  It was spacers that came with another mag pouch that I cut down.  I dunno the material, but it's like the black insulation on piping.  It's a little flexible, but dense enough to use as a spacer.

With the ESSTAC pouches I have, the G19 mags will sit pretty low.  With the KYWI insert, it has enough "grab" on the mags that I can set them at the right level when I am loading up the pouches, but the mags don't move around, even when wogging (essentially a fast walk).

don't you mean "waddling"?

drck1000

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2020, 01:29:55 PM »
don't you mean "waddling"?
"waddling" still more effective than "poof poofs"

 :rofl:

macsak

Re: Range Belt loadouts
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2020, 01:35:17 PM »
"waddling" still more effective than "poof poofs"

 :rofl:

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