Newspaper article Mililani teacher (Read 4352 times)

oldfart

Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« on: June 24, 2018, 02:22:25 PM »
Does anybody know the teacher featured in the newspaper today?

previously, He was allowed to bring his Civil War artifacts and guns to show the students in his history class.

Now the school principal disallows him from doing that.
What, Me Worry?

dafrtknocker

oldfart

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2018, 03:00:59 PM »
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2018, 03:36:54 PM »
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“Per Board of Education Policy 305-1, the school has a duty to ‘provide a caring environment conducive to the
physical, mental, social, and emotional well-being of students while they are participating in school activities.’..."

In other news, students have been exempted from taking tests for the rest of their school career in order to provide a caring environment conducive to the
physical, mental, social, and emotional well-being of students.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

PeaShooter

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2018, 03:53:51 PM »
Well the last comment was totally on the other end of the spectrum, it said schools and principals should never allow this and must be regulated so they cannot.

I side with the principal on this, which is actually more like a middle ground if you consider that full spectrum. A decision like this should be left up to the principal of the school. He should have some influence over what his teachers can and cannot do. If not then he has no job and is a puppet, while the teachers are unregulated and unsupervised.

There is no other requirement that teachers must do this or cannot do this. If it is up to the principal of a particular school, I am fine with that.

PeaShooter

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2018, 04:02:22 PM »
Wait the article also says "A Board of Education policy prohibits firearms on any school campus or DOE workplace" though it does not support this claim with the actual policy. I had thought that display firearms were allowed for teaching purposes, but apparently not. So what's the truth?

ren

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2018, 04:05:46 PM »
When I went to Mililani the school teacher taught us that guns weren't invented then....
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just kidding
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Lihikai

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2018, 04:41:26 PM »
The kids are the losers in this, but then again - since when did the BOE/DOE ever care about the kids?

changemyoil66

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2018, 08:34:24 PM »
He was teaching that the 2a only applies to muskets. Thats why the principal allowed it.

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oldfart

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2018, 08:44:31 PM »
He was teaching that the 2a only applies to muskets. Thats why the principal allowed it.

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You're kidding, right?
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PalisadesKid

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2018, 10:19:14 AM »
He was teaching that the 2a only applies to muskets. Thats why the principal allowed it.

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If that is true, seems to fall in line here with the way he verbalized his opinion:

“I understand that there is a crisis, people are getting shot in the schools,” Ogata said. “I’m not bringing in the Glock. I’m not indoctrinating kids on gun ownership … The guns are unloaded. They are just there for kids to see and not to play around with.”

He's perpetuating a LIE that there is a wide-spread crisis of school shootings on a "frequent" basis and just the way he refers to a Glock handgun here just sounds like something someone who isnt in line with gun culture.

drck1000

Re: Newspaper article Mililani teacher
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2018, 10:35:46 AM »
Sounds like an interesting collection. 

Sounds like he's done it many years in the past without incident.  Even going so far as to get written acceptance from students.  Sad that he can't share his passion with his students in a relevant lesson.  It's not like he just wants to share the firearms with the students for no reason.  It would also have been a good lesson on firearm safety and for the students to be exposed to firearms in a safe environment.  Probably would never get past ignorant irrational fear of firearms by those who have little to no experience with firearms, which is the sad part. . . 

Incidentally, I was shooting next to a guy shooting black powder rifle yesterday.  It was a beautiful gun and looked like it shot well.  I was happy to see what I thought was a collector condition firearm being shot and enjoyed by the owner.