Xring - can't shoot .380 (Read 707 times)

Hangten

Xring - can't shoot .380
« on: November 23, 2018, 01:31:05 PM »
So I wanted to go shoot at Xring and called to be sure they were open this evening. I just happened to ask if they had .380 ammo and they said they were out of it. My next question was could I shoot mine then?
They said no.

So I've paid a two membership fees (myself and a family member)and can't use the range because they are out of ammo.

That is just wrong

Platinum808

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 03:16:07 PM »
That sucks

Oh ignorant youth, the world is not a joyous place. The time has come for you to dispense with the frivolous pleasures of childhood and get down to honest toil until you are sixty-five. Then and only then can you relax and collect your social security and live happily until the time of your death!

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Inspector

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2018, 07:05:51 PM »
So I wanted to go shoot at Xring and called to be sure they were open this evening. I just happened to ask if they had .380 ammo and they said they were out of it. My next question was could I shoot mine then?
They said no.

So I've paid a two membership fees (myself and a family member)and can't use the range because they are out of ammo.

That is just wrong
Well, I guess that answers my question as to what would happen if I came to their range with a pistol they don’t carry ammo for.  :rofl:

Nostayhome

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2018, 07:38:11 PM »
Seems kind of unfair if they’re the ones that don’t have the ammo.

Inspector

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2018, 08:52:00 PM »
So I wanted to go shoot at Xring and called to be sure they were open this evening. I just happened to ask if they had .380 ammo and they said they were out of it. My next question was could I shoot mine then?
They said no.

So I've paid a two membership fees (myself and a family member)and can't use the range because they are out of ammo.

That is just wrong
They should seriously let you shoot your own ammo. Or maybe add a month to your membership. They should somehow reimburse you. Poor business practice.

zhuzhits

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 10:23:03 PM »
Pretty lame. Not unexpected from them though.  :wtf:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2018, 01:49:54 AM »
Personally, I would demand a refund for my membership fees for the remaining unused portion.

Seems like a breach of contract if they can't provide the ammo they require you to use.

Maybe that's just me, though.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.

oldfart

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2018, 04:51:02 AM »
Apparently their business model does not depend on your (local) business to survive.
That is why I do not shoot there even though I can drive there in 2 minutes.
What, Me Worry?

BaboonsFeet

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2018, 08:51:16 AM »
I was gonna shoot there once after I got my membership. I asked how much for the cheapest box of 9mm was and they said between $20-$23 a box for 115 grain. I was like wut??? I buy them for half that price. I walked out.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2018, 11:09:14 AM »
Apparently their business model does not depend on your (local) business to survive.
That is why I do not shoot there even though I can drive there in 2 minutes.

The cost is always justified if the value you receive is worth it in your opinion.

I decided against joining because:

(1) the ammo requirements are too restrictive,

(2) the ammo cost is higher than I think is warranted,

(3) the management made no attempt to hide the fact they were turning the range into a "clique" hang-out -- if you were "in" you'd get price breaks. If not, you pay whatever they say.

(4) some of the costs weren't well detailed, giving them the ability to change the rules after you joined, and

(5) did the people on this forum who wrote letters to help them get approval to operate ever get their promised "consideration?"  Last I read here, they never did.

I'm much closer to X-Ring than any other range (Mililani), so the convenience would be worth a premium.  But, the value just isn't there for the amount of cash up front they are demanding.

JMHO.  YMMV.
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zippz

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
Ask them if they can special order and hold the ammo for you.  It takes a while for ammo to come in so do this way ahead of time.
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changemyoil66

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2018, 09:17:17 AM »
I do understand the possible liability issues when shooting your own ammo.  But if many mainland ranges allow it, then it shouldn't be that bad. 

Maybe charge a little more for the monthly/usage for those who do want to shoot their own ammo?

Due to the cost, I do not shoot there.  I rather go to HFR.  You don't have to take a class to draw from holster OWB or IWB.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 09:28:53 AM »
I do understand the possible liability issues when shooting your own ammo.  But if many mainland ranges allow it, then it shouldn't be that bad. 

Maybe charge a little more for the monthly/usage for those who do want to shoot their own ammo?

Due to the cost, I do not shoot there.  I rather go to HFR.  You don't have to take a class to draw from holster OWB or IWB.

The ranges I visited on the mainland had no problem with you bringing your own commercially produced ammo.  As long as it was new factory ammo and not reloads, and in some cases not made with steel tipped bullets (they used a magnet to check), they were okay with outside ammo.  They reserved the right to inspect and reject your ammo before entering the range.

Regardless of ammo origin, they all required you to sweep up your brass and deposit in a bucket for them to sell or reload.  That was one way of offsetting their costs without forcing you to buy their ammo.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.

rustyeleio

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2018, 11:47:02 PM »
I've wondered about that possible issue.  Nice to know.  That seems wrong since it is 100% their fault and their problem for running out of a pretty common round.  :wtf:

Trumper

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2018, 08:24:36 PM »
So after paying membership one has to purchase a range fee too? And if you want to draw from a holster you have to pay for that? Can you bring in your own holster?

WTF?Shane

Re: Xring - can't shoot .380
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2018, 08:48:30 PM »
Can you bring in your own holster?

I think there's a small fee for that too.  :rofl: