Ban oil drilling in Hawaii (Read 4596 times)

zippz

Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« on: January 08, 2019, 04:16:37 PM »
Has Gabbard gone crazy?  Someone should tell him there's no oil in Hawaii.  Hard to ban something you don't have. I'm all for taking reasonable measures to reduce oil use and have a cleaner environment.




Mike Gabbard joins other lawmakers from coastal states to oppose offshore drilling

“It’s time to transition away from dirty fossil fuels to renewable energy,” said Hawaii state Sen. Mike Gabbard, who said he would introduce a bill to ban oil drilling off Hawaii when the session starts next week.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/01/08/breaking-news/mike-gabbard-joins-other-lawmakers-from-coastal-states-to-oppose-offshore-drilling/

RSN172

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 05:05:58 PM »
They are all nuts. 
Happily living in Puna

mrgaf

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 06:00:06 PM »
 :wacko: :wtf: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ::) These are the idiots we elect!
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Trumper

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 08:50:22 PM »
it's a solicitation for special interest money I'm guessing. They threaten to put up laws banning drilling - they get money to NOT put up such laws and back off the rhetoric about the environment

changemyoil66

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 08:53:14 PM »
Like i mentioned in the other thread, we have lots of oil sources but cant access them due to regulations. So we buy from the mid east. They then "donate" to foundations. Deep state has been doing this for decades.

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drck1000

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 08:16:45 AM »
Nothing new. . .

Hawaii joins hands to protest off-shore oil drilling
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/12715862/hawaii-joins-hands-to-protest-off-shore-oil-drilling/

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And according to State Senator Mike Gabbard, Hawaii was spared back in 1977.

The Hawaiian Patriot, an oil cargo ship, went down about 300 miles off the coast of Honolulu.

"30-million gallons of oil and it was only because of the tradewinds and the ocean current that it pushed it that way and we avoided a great disaster," he said.

Mike Gabbard's statement in 2010 was specific to oil spill concerns, but the "protest" was the same.

I think some of this comes from the widespread speculation that fracking for the Puna Geothermal Venture (a project that my company worked on many years ago) was cause for the recent eruptions.  It is my understanding that they are using a process similar to fracking for the geothermal wells.  Then people automatically associate fracking with oil and get in their mind that that is what is going on. 

RSN172

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 10:55:48 AM »
Now if I can get a $100k grant, I will provide the HI legislature a report on the feasibility and likelyhood of finding oil in Hawaii by drilling.  I am sure I can condense it to one sentence so they won't have to waste any of their valuable time.
Happily living in Puna

changemyoil66

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 02:08:04 PM »
Now if I can get a $100k grant, I will provide the HI legislature a report on the feasibility and likelyhood of finding oil in Hawaii by drilling.  I am sure I can condense it to one sentence so they won't have to waste any of their valuable time.

"Hawaii has no oil"

tillamook

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 02:48:24 PM »
Is there even oil in the pacific tectonic plate?  its not mentioned in any of the typical offshore oil fields.  The Los angeles Basin has some offshore drilling but that is all a part of the NA plate. 

Plus the ocean depths around Hawaii (not the volcanoes making up the islands themselves since they certainly dont have oil) is deeper than the deepest oil drill rig I believe. 

Are oil companies even considering trying to drill 20,000ft below the surface around Hawaii?



zippz

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 04:11:32 PM »
Is there even oil in the pacific tectonic plate?

Oil is usually trapped and made by plate boundries so unlikely in Hawaii since we're right in the middle of the largest plate.  Maybe it's possible when Hawaii was nearer to a continent but I doubt it was the right conditions for it.  You don't see oil drilling in the middle of the ocean.

Possibly hydrocarbons and natural gas but it's not worth the effort.

RSN172

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 07:23:17 PM »
"Hawaii has no oil"

Don't give them my report, I did not get my study grant yet.
Happily living in Puna

changemyoil66

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 09:01:14 PM »
Don't give them my report, I did not get my study grant yet.
Only if u cut me in as assistant ecological engineer.

My qualification: i fill up gas in my car

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6716J

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 12:26:44 PM »
Now if I can get a $100k grant, I will provide the HI legislature a report on the feasibility and likelyhood of finding oil in Hawaii by drilling.  I am sure I can condense it to one sentence so they won't have to waste any of their valuable time.

No no no...

We have to put forth a proposal to do an in-depth study that will last about 5 years at a cost of around $5 million. Now of course when they say yes (and they will), after a year we go back and say we need more money, about $8 million more. It's for the keiki. Who wouldn't support the keiki?
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rpoL98

Re: Ban oil drilling in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 01:07:38 PM »
he must be getting pressured by the local chapter of some extremist environmentalist special interest group, or the electric car folks that are in his district.  I guess he figures this way he captures the votes even though the introduced legislation is nonsensical.

poor guy is doing whatever he can to get votes, even playing the part of the village idiot, or the court jester.

nothing new for our elected representatives.  they go full retard.