has there been there a run of hotel room shootings that I'm not aware of?

Well, that clown Deedy had several in his hotel safe according to his pal.

He ended up shooting someone.

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO DO YOUR PART : e-mail these legislators and let them know we will not stand by and let them pass stupid gun laws.

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Another valid point bought to us from a concerned Hawaii resident.

"Good afternoon just wanted to touch bases and add a comment to the stupidity of the no guns at a hotel law. 24 hours ago I had to stay in a hotel because my building is being fumigated do they expect me to leave my guns at home in my safe while the doors are open and unlocked to allow the fumigator to do there job? No I took them with me this would have meant I would have to have slept in my car in my parking lot if I could not get a hotel room."

Comments on khon2 fb page, 99% think itd stupid. Of only lawmakers listened to the people...

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Here's a draft of what I want to send. I'll hold it for a day or so, look for typos and such.

Aloha all,

I am writing you because of your participation in forwarding HB25. This law, which would prohibit the possession of firearms in hotel rooms, is poorly considered. Although you have included exemptions for numerous categories of peoples, I can't help but think you've overlooked a large number of legitimate reasons why people should be allowed possession of firearms in hotels. Here are a few examples for your consideration:

The temporarily unhomed.
Homeowners and renters are sometimes called upon to vacate their dwellings for short periods of time. Examples of this may include fumigation, construction, fire damage, natural disasters, or neighborhood emergencies, to name a few. I, myself, have been forced to vacate my place of residence once for fumigation and once for renovations. Is it more desirable to leave firearms unattended in an empty dwelling where other people, unknown people, have free access? I take reasonable precautions to secure my firearms, but such precautions would be meaningless to a construction worker, fumigation technician, or simple burglar who had unrestricted access over a period of days.

Hunters
It is commonplace for hunters in Hawaii to travel interisland. Not all have friends or family on the neighbor islands; many stay in hotels. This interisland commerce is valuable to the local economies, and a time-honored aspect of life in the Hawaiian islands. Additionally, hunters from the mainland do travel here to hunt. Again, not all have friends or relations here, and must stay in hotels. This represents a boon to the state's economy and primary business of tourism.

Competitive shooters
As with hunters, competitive shooters travel between islands to participate in events. Their hotel stays, car rentals, dining, and other expenditures are the lifeblood of the islands' local economies. Mainlanders also travel here to compete, bringing those mainland dollars into the state.

Shooters seeking training
There are numerous reasons why shooters seek training. Simply being a responsible gun owner drives many of us. A desire to enhance our skills, whether for competition or hunting, is also common. Firearms classes in Hawaii are sadly few in number, and travel to a neighbor island is required for many. If staying in a hotel room is not an option, many people whose sole desire is to be a more responsible, safer citizen will be forced to abstain from those training opportunities.

Firearms instructors
As an NRA-certified Training Counselor, I have traveled to neighbor islands to offer classes in basic firearms use. These are classes required under Hawaii law, and classes which I believe are an essential part of any gun owner's lifestyle. There are few of us trainers in Hawaii, and we do need to travel in order to share out expertise. Instructors from the mainland also travel here to help supplement the gaps in the offerings available. They, too, rely on hotels in order to help provide opportunities for responsible gun owners to enhance their skills and safety awareness.

There are doubtless others that haven't occurred to me, but you can clearly see that any ban on hotels will have a negative effect on a large number of people whose only sin is being a law-abiding citizen.

Surely you are aware that any hotel has the right to enact its own policies regarding the people who stay there and what they may bring. The management of any hotel is already free to impose a ban on firearms; no hotel is being forced into a position.

As I see it, this law will serve to:
-diminish interisland travel
-diminish tourism
-reduce the level of training by gun-owners

Please reconsider.

I am available if you would like to talk. Please don't hesitate to contact me, either via email, or by phone. My number is...

Here's a draft of what I want to send. I'll hold it for a day or so, look for typos and such.

Aloha all,

Please reconsider.

I am available if you would like to talk. Please don't hesitate to contact me, either via email, or by phone. My number is...

Tom could you please mention military being stationed in Hawaii often have to live in Hotel,accomodation for 2-3 months until suitable housing is found.

Tom could you please mention military being stationed in Hawaii often have to live in Hotel,accomodation for 2-3 months until suitable housing is found.

There's an exemption for military, but only if while and if their job requires them to be armed. Do the families also live in hotels while awaiting housing? How's this:

Military
Members of the military, as well as their families, often spend months in hotels while awaiting more suitable housing. While the bill provides an exemption for the military, it is only "while in the performance of their respective duties if those duties require them to be armed." This says nothing of military members while off duty and forced to live in a hotel, nor of those whose duties don't require them to be armed but are gun owners and forced to live in a hotel, nor of their families who are forced to live in a hotel. This becomes a de facto gun ban on the members and families of the armed forces who find themselves transferred here.

There's an exemption for military, but only if while and if their job requires them to be armed. Do the families also live in hotels while awaiting housing? How's this:

Military
Members of the military, as well as their families, often spend months in hotels while awaiting more suitable housing. While the bill provides an exemption for the military, it is only "while in the performance of their respective duties if those duties require them to be armed." This says nothing of military members while off duty and forced to live in a hotel, nor of those whose duties don't require them to be armed but are gun owners and forced to live in a hotel, nor of their families who are forced to live in a hotel. This becomes a de facto gun ban on the members and families of the armed forces who find themselves transferred here.

Looks great

I just reached out to a lot of major hunting platforms, and Steve Rinella's organization MeatEater just replied that they will be looking at the bill and going from there.

If this can reach individuals like Joe Rogan, Adam Greentree and Cameron Hanes, who constantly highlight the hunting of axis deer here in Hawaii, it will bring iin the support of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of hunters who could help oppose this bill.

In case anyone needs this data:
https://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/subpages/licenseinfo/Natl%20Hunting%20License%20Report%202018.pdf

734 non-resident hunting licenses in 2018.  $95 each

That's a lot of guns needing to be kept in cars since they wont be allowed in hotel rooms (or $77,000 less dollars a year to the state because who would want to travel here, bring your guns, and be required to keep them in your car)

In case anyone needs this data:
https://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/subpages/licenseinfo/Natl%20Hunting%20License%20Report%202018.pdf

734 non-resident hunting licenses in 2018.  $95 each

That's a lot of guns needing to be kept in cars since they wont be allowed in hotel rooms (or $77,000 less dollars a year to the state because who would want to travel here, bring your guns, and be required to keep them in your car)

You can’t keep your guns in your car that’s illegal

I got a response from Rep. Nadine Nakamura:

All good points. Thanks for educating me and seeing all points of view. Mahalo nui loa!

That's encouraging!

You can’t keep your guns in your car that’s illegal

Would there be a legal way to bring a rifle to Hawaii to hunt temporarily if you do not know a local and have to stay in a hotel?

Would there be a legal way to bring a rifle to Hawaii to hunt temporarily if you do not know a local and have to stay in a hotel?

If HB25 were to pass, I'm kinda thinking the answer is "no."

I got a response from Rep. Nadine Nakamura:
That's encouraging!

Not really,  I emailed her saying I had a hunting trip to Lanai planned late in the year and a non-refundable deposit for one of the Axis Deer hunting guide groups and will be staying at the Lodge at Koele asking if hunting trips will be exempt.   Her reply was "thanks for educating me, Mahalo"

So no, she isnt reading the emails, just placating the little people she does not care about. 

never trust a politician. 

So no, she isnt reading the emails, just placating the little people she does not care about. 

never trust a politician.

The reps are busy getting ready for committee hearings so it's difficult to talk or see them for the next month or two.  This is why it's important to see them a few times prior to the legislature starting to give your general thoughts about the 2a and build that relationship so they'll stop to talk with you durring the session.

Making an appointment to see them is the best way to get the point accross.

The reps are busy getting ready for committee hearings so it's difficult to talk or see them for the next month or two.  This is why it's important to see them a few times prior to the legislature starting to give your general thoughts about the 2a and build that relationship so they'll stop to talk with you durring the session.

Making an appointment to see them is the best way to get the point accross.

The only reason I'd fly to Oahu to meet a politician is if you guys have brought out the guillotines 

The only reason I'd fly to Oahu to meet a politician is if you guys have brought out the guillotines 

Guillotines are icky.

You can see your reps at local Town Halls once in a while if you get on their email list