*UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN (Read 49346 times)

MMM

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« Reply #100 on: January 29, 2019, 01:40:11 PM »
ok, i started my own bill. need help finishing.....

HB1531-1   

Measure Title:RELATING TO LIBTARD POLITICIANS.
Report Title:   libtard; Dumbass politician; Ban
Description:   Prohibits any person from voting, distributing, transporting, importing, bringing, or causing to be brought into the State; keeping for sale, or offering or exposing for sale; or transferring, manufacturing, possessing, selling, bartering, trading, gifting, or acquiring any libtard politician. Defines libtard. Authorizes the courts to impose an extended term of imprisonment for an offender who uses a libtard for your vote.
Companion:   
Package:   None
Current Referral:   
Introducer(s):   MMM

To be continued………

6716J

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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2019, 03:29:20 PM »
To lighten the mood hopefully...

All of this crap sucks.

#semiautoisnotacrime

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Quacker

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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2019, 06:23:48 PM »
Here is my addition to the email, added in HB1303 next to SB1334

I am writing to you to express my opposition to House Bill 1303 (HB1303) and Senate Bill 1334 (SB1334). These bills are a wide-sweeping ban on a vast majority of commonly-owned firearms in the State of Hawaii used in competition, hunting, and self-defense. A similar attempt at a “assault weapon ban” failed in 2013 (Senate Bill 219 of 2013). It did not make it out of committee.

The attempt to re-define what is an “assault weapon” under HB1303 and SB1334 provides no identifiable facts or statistics that prove that the mere existence of these firearms amongst law-abiding citizens creates a public safety threat. In fact, the verbiage and reasoning in Section.1 of HB1303 and SB1334 readily admits Hawaii annually maintains one of the lowest amounts of firearm-related deaths and crimes in the nation yet looks to ban commonly-owned firearms that have existed in the hands of law-abiding Hawaii citizens for decades. What is the purpose of banning commonly-owned firearms when the statistics have shown that Hawaii is able to keep firearm deaths to an absolute minimum while these firearms have remained in the lawful possession of the public all this time?

Section 1. of HB1303 and SB1334 also states Hawaii already has an “assault weapons ban” in place, yet HB1303 and SB1334 argues that it “fails to ban assault rifles and assault shotguns”. This contradictory statement does not provide the reasoning behind what currently constitutes as an “Assault Rifle” or “Assault Shotgun” by definition yet attempts to solidify a definition by naming standard industry components (as named in Section 2.) with zero factual information with regards to “cause and effect” to public safety. Again, these industry standard components have legally existed in the State of Hawaii for decades as the State of Hawaii annually boasts tremendously LOW firearm-related casualties.

I reiterate that HB1303 and SB1334 lacks statistical proof that semi-auto rifles and the industry standard components it seeks to outlaw are responsible for firearm-related injuries or deaths in the State of Hawaii. Far too often handguns have been the tool criminals preferred as evident throughout the various news articles and headlines in local media over the years.

The facts with regards to the LOW amount of firearm related deaths in Hawaii are within the State Legislature’s own published report:

http://lrbhawaii.org/reports/legrpts/lrb/2018/18-01.pdf

If a ban were to pass and “grandfathering” of said firearms were “allowed”, what is to happen to innocent gun owners in the event said firearms are damaged beyond repair in a natural disaster? Or if one were to become a victim of a burglary? Safes have been broken into in the past. The law-abiding gun owner will not be able to reclaim/replace their private property due to such a ban.

Should either HB1303 or SB1334 make its way to the JDC, I request that HB1303 or SB1334 NOT be scheduled for a hearing from this committee and request that it must be removed from the 2019 legislative session.

I would also like to state that there are no protections in either bill for Law Enforcement Personnel. It would automatically turn those that are considered "Essential Personnel" into criminals.
I feel that this is a very slippery slope that these bills would put the State on. The fact that these bills would essentially be taking away our second amendment rights. It would be prohibiting our right to own firearms.
It would also cause many small businesses across the state to go out of business.

Please consider not hearing and remove these bills from the JDC schedule.

Mahalo for your time.

Pillow

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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2019, 07:01:55 PM »
Sent to Ohno and Rhoads, changed the verbiage for the committees they sit on

Here is my addition to the email, added in HB1303 next to SB1334

I am writing to you to express my opposition to House Bill 1303 (HB1303) and Senate Bill 1334 (SB1334). These bills are a wide-sweeping ban on a vast majority of commonly-owned firearms in the State of Hawaii used in competition, hunting, and self-defense. A similar attempt at a “assault weapon ban” failed in 2013 (Senate Bill 219 of 2013). It did not make it out of committee.

The attempt to re-define what is an “assault weapon” under HB1303 and SB1334 provides no identifiable facts or statistics that prove that the mere existence of these firearms amongst law-abiding citizens creates a public safety threat. In fact, the verbiage and reasoning in Section.1 of HB1303 and SB1334 readily admits Hawaii annually maintains one of the lowest amounts of firearm-related deaths and crimes in the nation yet looks to ban commonly-owned firearms that have existed in the hands of law-abiding Hawaii citizens for decades. What is the purpose of banning commonly-owned firearms when the statistics have shown that Hawaii is able to keep firearm deaths to an absolute minimum while these firearms have remained in the lawful possession of the public all this time?

Section 1. of HB1303 and SB1334 also states Hawaii already has an “assault weapons ban” in place, yet HB1303 and SB1334 argues that it “fails to ban assault rifles and assault shotguns”. This contradictory statement does not provide the reasoning behind what currently constitutes as an “Assault Rifle” or “Assault Shotgun” by definition yet attempts to solidify a definition by naming standard industry components (as named in Section 2.) with zero factual information with regards to “cause and effect” to public safety. Again, these industry standard components have legally existed in the State of Hawaii for decades as the State of Hawaii annually boasts tremendously LOW firearm-related casualties.

I reiterate that HB1303 and SB1334 lacks statistical proof that semi-auto rifles and the industry standard components it seeks to outlaw are responsible for firearm-related injuries or deaths in the State of Hawaii. Far too often handguns have been the tool criminals preferred as evident throughout the various news articles and headlines in local media over the years.

The facts with regards to the LOW amount of firearm related deaths in Hawaii are within the State Legislature’s own published report:

http://lrbhawaii.org/reports/legrpts/lrb/2018/18-01.pdf

If a ban were to pass and “grandfathering” of said firearms were “allowed”, what is to happen to innocent gun owners in the event said firearms are damaged beyond repair in a natural disaster? Or if one were to become a victim of a burglary? Safes have been broken into in the past. The law-abiding gun owner will not be able to reclaim/replace their private property due to such a ban.

Should either HB1303 or SB1334 make its way to the JDC, I request that HB1303 or SB1334 NOT be scheduled for a hearing from this committee and request that it must be removed from the 2019 legislative session.

I would also like to state that there are no protections in either bill for Law Enforcement Personnel. It would automatically turn those that are considered "Essential Personnel" into criminals.
I feel that this is a very slippery slope that these bills would put the State on. The fact that these bills would essentially be taking away our second amendment rights. It would be prohibiting our right to own firearms.
It would also cause many small businesses across the state to go out of business.

Please consider not hearing and remove these bills from the JDC schedule.

Mahalo for your time.

PalisadesKid

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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2019, 08:11:58 PM »
Sent to Ohno and Rhoads, changed the verbiage for the committees they sit on

SB1334 is with the Senate Public Safety Committee FIRST, so you can target your emails to:
SENATE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY

Chair

Clarence K. Nishihara
Senate District 17
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 214
phone: 808-586-6970
fax: 808-586-6879
sennishihara@capitol.hawaii.gov
 
Vice Chair

Glenn Wakai
Senate District 15
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 407
phone: 808-586-8585
fax: 808-586-8588
senwakai@capitol.hawaii.gov

HB1531 and HB1303 are both with the HOUSE Public Safety Committee first and you can target your emails to:

HOUSE PUBLIC SAFETY (PVM)
CHAIR
Gregg Takayama
House District 34
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 323
phone: 808-586-6340
fax: 808-586-6341
reptakayama@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Cedric Asuega Gates
House District 44
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 311
phone: 808-586-8460
fax: 808-586-8464
repgates@Capitol.hawaii.gov

new guy

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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2019, 08:28:03 PM »
Has anyone contacted local and national news stations?

This is being conducted under cover of darkness.

Might be good to share the info, for better or worse, with the general public.

The fact that the language of the three introduced measures looks suspiciously like California's statutes makes me wonder if there is some outside influence providing added pecuniary benefit to the representative or group of representatives who succesfully pass the measure.
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

new guy

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« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2019, 08:31:39 PM »
Regardless of unpopular or not, I would suggest that LEO and retired LEO get no "free pass."

... get more skin in the game, 'cause the left is truly pushing an All-or-Nothing agenda.
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

new guy

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« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2019, 08:48:25 PM »
Lotta "guests" recently visiting the site.  :popcorn:
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

Bota-CS1

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« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2019, 08:52:04 PM »
Emailed in again today via HiFiCO.  Then I saw this on FB from MrGunsandGear.  Keep up the pressure!   :shaka:  ‘Murcia!
« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 09:00:31 PM by Bota-CS1 »
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

macsak

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« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2019, 09:34:16 PM »
Lotta "guests" recently visiting the site.  :popcorn:

lol
heads

new guy

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« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2019, 11:00:17 PM »
Share the names of the House and Senate sponsors of the measures with Stephanie Ching and Brigette Namata, and ask Gina Mangieri to investigate.

Ask them to state the ramifications of this legislation, and let them ask the reason for the promulgation of such draconian measures.
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

rpoL98

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« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2019, 11:35:48 PM »
typically, Hawaii news media is anti-2A.

but they love covering a hot story, especially if it inflames or polarizes their viewership, even though the slant they'll present means rooting against the Bill of Rights.  whatever it takes to generate advertising revenue.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 12:02:46 AM by rpoL98 »

new guy

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« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2019, 11:41:54 PM »
Perhaps so, but like I said, there is ZERO exposure of these measures.

Put the measures (and the sponsors) in the public eye, and let them answer to public.
Your mindset is your primary weapon. - Jeff Cooper

zippz

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« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2019, 12:47:49 AM »
What if every owner, of a type that is planned to be banned,  shows up to Kokohead, and other shooting ranges on other islands, with their weapons, all on the same day and have a "I am NOT A FELON" range day?  Jam pack the place, share benches with everyone else, let each other try their stuff, just have a fun and awesome shooting event in protest.

I was brainstorming some plans for the future like a 10 mile road march with a rifle (in a case) and a large 2,000 person rally, march, and community day.  My plan is to work small and work up to that in the following years to build a sense of community and activism.  Who knows, if this bill goes down to the wire in April it'll motivate people to do something.

zippz

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« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2019, 12:50:15 AM »
Keep those emails flowing.  Hundreds were sent out in a couple days.  I've been visiting the legislature a couple times a week and the rep's staff says they've been getting a lot of emails about this and HB25 (hotel ban). 

changemyoil66

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« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2019, 10:34:15 AM »
I was brainstorming some plans for the future like a 10 mile road march with a rifle (in a case) and a large 2,000 person rally, march, and community day.  My plan is to work small and work up to that in the following years to build a sense of community and activism.  Who knows, if this bill goes down to the wire in April it'll motivate people to do something.

Don't forget locked case, if it crosses within 1000 feet of a school.

Heavies

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« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2019, 10:43:12 AM »
Perhaps so, but like I said, there is ZERO exposure of these measures.

Put the measures (and the sponsors) in the public eye, and let them answer to public.
There are some conservative news in Hawaii, perhaps lets them present the story?  The audience that reads them would probably be more receptive and get the word out to others not in the know.

Heavies

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« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2019, 10:51:40 AM »
I was brainstorming some plans for the future like a 10 mile road march with a rifle (in a case) and a large 2,000 person rally, march, and community day.  My plan is to work small and work up to that in the following years to build a sense of community and activism.  Who knows, if this bill goes down to the wire in April it'll motivate people to do something.
That would be a little late no?  Just thinking a very large range day would attract a lot of people easier. Plus there would be zero cause for  the anti gun aspect to make noise about it. 

Will be much easier to get the more timid portion of the gun community out to protest.

Lets face the facts that a good portion of Hawaii gun owners wont want to make waves.  In our economy people won't want to face losing their jobs, homes, familes, and livelihood.

Like I said just putting it out there for thought.  I have no bones in it as I can't be very active in it at this time in my life anymore.  Just putting it out there. 

Heavies

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« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2019, 10:55:06 AM »
I've already heard people trying to figue ways, in their mind, how this wont be so bad for them or how it might not effect them.

That mentality is very deeply engrained.  A full on ban of everything is the only thing that MIGHT have a slight chance of snapping people out of it.  By that time,  too late.  They won, game over.

tillamook

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« Reply #119 on: January 31, 2019, 01:13:33 PM »
I've already heard people trying to figue ways, in their mind, how this wont be so bad for them or how it might not effect them.

That mentality is very deeply engrained.  A full on ban of everything is the only thing that MIGHT have a slight chance of snapping people out of it.  By that time,  too late.  They won, game over.

Some of the people I've done mental health clearances for are not even slightly annoyed that they had to fly to another island to get me to allow them to practice a constitutionally protected right.  Why isnt steam coming out of your ears?  I'd be mad as hell if it was me.