You'll never guess... no one but security guards got licenses! Imagine that!

This is the spreadsheet I created from the monthly reports from all four counties.

I have quoted the "comments" given re the non-security denials. "[sic]" means I reproduced the number as in the monthly report even though it contradicts other information in the report.

Does HiFiCo need security guards? 

Hopefully when the AG report comes out, the numbers will reflect what you have for denials of citizens

Hopefully when the AG report comes out, the numbers will reflect what you have for denials of citizens

Those numbers ARE from the AG... from the person (Paul Perrone, Chief of Research and Statistics, Crime Prevention and Justice Assistance Division, Hawaii Department of the Attorney General) who collects the data from the county departments and then writes the full report, based upon the actual monthly submission forms from the PDs, which were provided to me in full (all 48 monthly reports from the four county PDs). There could be a couple of minor corrections to the numbers, but it would very minor.

Those numbers ARE from the AG... from the person (Paul Perrone, Chief of Research and Statistics, Crime Prevention and Justice Assistance Division, Hawaii Department of the Attorney General) who collects the data from the county departments and then writes the full report, based upon the actual monthly submission forms from the PDs, which were provided to me in full (all 48 monthly reports from the four county PDs). There could be a couple of minor corrections to the numbers, but it would very minor.

Sadly I have no faith in our system here or the people who run it. All I need to do is look at HPD, the DAs office, the AGs office....

I know that there are good people just trying to do their job, but when the top of the food chain is corrupt, it promotes an environment of corruption and silence is consent.

Slightly off topic...

What's F'd up is Illinois is actually better than here in that you can carry an unloaded firearm.


From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

In 1996, the Fourth District Illinois Appellate Court ruled that an unloaded handgun carried in a purse did not meet the definition of unlawful use of a weapon per se due to being fully enclosed. Following this ruling a movement started in the early 2000s dubbed Fanny Pack Carry, where proponents carried unloaded handguns in fanny packs to protest the state's outright ban on carrying loaded firearms.[61] This resulted in several arrests but ultimately every criminal prosecution failed[62] and resulted in one successful wrongful arrest lawsuit.[63]

In 2009 the Supreme Court of Illinois ruled that any object that fully encloses a handgun and fastens closed in any form or manner legally constitutes a "case" per se under Illinois Law.

Following this in 2011 before the passage of Conceal Carry in Illinois, the Illinois Department of Natural Resources published a brochure which stated that to transport a firearm on one's person, one only has to meet three conditions:

Unloaded
Enclosed in a case
Possessed in conjunction with an Illinois FOID.[64]
The Illinois State Police reaffirmed this in a 2012 brochure that states that a person may have a firearm upon their person as long as it's unloaded and enclosed in a case.[65]

Sadly I have no faith in our system here or the people who run it. All I need to do is look at HPD, the DAs office, the AGs office....

I know that there are good people just trying to do their job, but when the top of the food chain is corrupt, it promotes an environment of corruption and silence is consent.

And the new boss is same as the old boss....

https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/03/city-poised-to-pay-550000-to-cop-who-claimed-hpd-doctored-test-scores/

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