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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2020, 01:28:52 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 08:43:09 AM


I saw your post on the RDS mount on the rear sight notch.  Does that not make it quite high?  I mean I am sure still effective, but I've wondered about that mount method. 



it is a little higher but i dont think its too high.  the 507c is already kind of a larger RDS. they make smaller ones but i like this model


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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2020, 01:34:27 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 01:28:52 PM

it is a little higher but i dont think its too high.  the 507c is already kind of a larger RDS. they make smaller ones but i like this model

Ya, I saw the pic you posted in another thread.  I know a similar mount is popular for CZ SP-01 where folks don't want to mill their slides.  I have one slide where it's milled so deep that the stock sight heights work ok for co-witness.  I've found that I like the lower dot level, but I haven't tried the taller.  Guess we need a red dot range day.   ;D
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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2020, 03:55:43 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 01:34:27 PM
Ya, I saw the pic you posted in another thread.  I know a similar mount is popular for CZ SP-01 where folks don't want to mill their slides.  I have one slide where it's milled so deep that the stock sight heights work ok for co-witness.  I've found that I like the lower dot level, but I haven't tried the taller.  Guess we need a red dot range day.   ;D

Red dot, revolver, rimfire, whatever we call it we should do a get bc together when things mellow out a bit more  :shaka:
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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2020, 12:36:49 PM »
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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #124 on: January 26, 2021, 12:11:33 PM »
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changemyoil66

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #125 on: January 26, 2021, 12:43:23 PM »
I've decided to not RDS the VP9. I just ordered a new WML IWM holster that has a hood from Fal Tac Industries. This way I don't have to keep removing the light when using the G-code one.  Fal Tac makes custom kydex. Prob gonna get a g-string holster next for when we go to vegas and use fanny pack when going to the gym.
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new guy

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #126 on: January 26, 2021, 10:54:16 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 26, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
I've decided to not RDS the VP9. I just ordered a new WML IWM holster that has a hood from Fal Tac Industries. This way I don't have to keep removing the light when using the G-code one.  Fal Tac makes custom kydex. Prob gonna get a g-string holster next for when we go to vegas and use fanny pack when going to the gym.

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Inspector

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #127 on: January 27, 2021, 04:04:02 AM »
Quote from: new guy on January 26, 2021, 10:54:16 PM

Why did you post that? Now I can’t UNSEE it!!!  :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #128 on: January 27, 2021, 08:49:01 AM »
Quote from: Inspector on January 27, 2021, 04:04:02 AM
Why did you post that? Now I can’t UNSEE it!!!  :rofl:
At least he picked a somewhat shapely example.  Not those types who regularly frequent Golden Corral.   :o

 :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #129 on: January 27, 2021, 08:50:37 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 26, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
I've decided to not RDS the VP9. I just ordered a new WML IWM holster that has a hood from Fal Tac Industries. This way I don't have to keep removing the light when using the G-code one.  Fal Tac makes custom kydex. Prob gonna get a g-string holster next for when we go to vegas and use fanny pack when going to the gym.
So you're sharing your decision to NOT go with a RDS in a thread on RDS experience?  And then rambling on about g-string holsters and your plans for murses?  :facepalm:  :crazy:

 :rofl:

 ;D



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changemyoil66

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #130 on: January 27, 2021, 08:53:24 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on January 27, 2021, 08:50:37 AM
So you're sharing your decision to NOT go with a RDS in a thread on RDS experience?  And then rambling on about g-string holsters and your plans for murses?  :facepalm:  :crazy:

 :rofl:

 ;D

No focus.

I choose to not share my sharing of RDS experience in the RDS experience sharing thread to share.  :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #131 on: January 27, 2021, 08:59:48 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 27, 2021, 08:53:24 AM
No focus.

I choose to not share my sharing of RDS experience in the RDS experience sharing thread to share.  :rofl:
:rofl:

But seriously.  You've tried them and making a decision based on that, as well as $$$.  I would recommend keep trying them.  From my experience, I needed a few range sessions and even dedicating a one day handgun class with them to work through initial impressions and fully (or at least mostly) see the benefits. 

Sell some tinfoil and use the $$$ for a Holosun.   :thumbsup:

 ;D
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changemyoil66

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #132 on: January 28, 2021, 08:52:11 AM »
I might have asked this b4,but forgot (no focus), when its dark and your WML is on, can you see the red dot?  Example, when my WML is on and it's dark, my tridium sights are not visible and neither is the orange dot on the front post.  I only see black front and rear sights.
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #133 on: January 28, 2021, 09:26:31 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 28, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
I might have asked this b4,but forgot (no focus), when its dark and your WML is on, can you see the red dot?  Example, when my WML is on and it's dark, my tridium sights are not visible and neither is the orange dot on the front post.  I only see black front and rear sights.
Yes, at least I can see the red dot in dark surroundings and light on.  In my case, red dot is on usual daylight settings (on brighter side) and have tried 600-1000 lumen light.  I can see the red dot really clearly, even with a bright handgun light.  Probably even more clear than during the day time, which to me is because of no ambient/area light. 

Understand what you're saying about iron sights being back lit.  See my thread on fiber optic front sights.  There's some discussion there and includes some good feedback from folks with much more experience on/with them. 
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rpoL98

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #134 on: January 28, 2021, 12:58:31 PM »

Trijicon suppressor-height sights, C&H PWS RMR MOS plate.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2021, 04:53:49 PM by rpoL98 »
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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2021, 02:43:51 PM »
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #136 on: April 05, 2021, 10:05:28 AM »
Shot RDS handgun last weekend for the first time in a while.  Was shooting a 4" x 6" steel at about 25 yards and seemed to pick it back up quickly.  I want to say it was easier after a layoff with RDS than irons.  Hopefully I won't have such a long layoff before shooting handguns again, but next time I want to try and see how I do with irons after a layoff. 

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changemyoil66

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #137 on: April 05, 2021, 11:29:15 AM »
With the lack of stuff on TV, i've been YTing a lot.  And the plan was to get a 45 SIG Scorpion, but due to ammo cost of 45, that will go down on the list of stuff to buy.  Since I got  9, might as well RDS a new pistol.

Looking at the SIG P320RXP. Comes with a Romeo 1 Pro on it.  IDK if going with compact or full size yet.  Then gotta get new  holsters depending on which model I buy.  I just started the info gathering stage.  I like the Romeo1 pro due to price (it's not $700 like RMR).  Prior I was gonna go with a Holosun 507C or X.

But when I shot my friends P320 in various models, I didn't really like the feel of the gun. But the RXP grips are different than the standard P320 models.  But I never shot the P320 Legion type grips yet.  So I might hate that model too and back to the drawing board.
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drck1000

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2021, 11:41:46 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 05, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
With the lack of stuff on TV, i've been YTing a lot.  And the plan was to get a 45 SIG Scorpion, but due to ammo cost of 45, that will go down on the list of stuff to buy.  Since I got  9, might as well RDS a new pistol.

Looking at the SIG P320RXP. Comes with a Romeo 1 Pro on it.  IDK if going with compact or full size yet.  Then gotta get new  holsters depending on which model I buy.  I just started the info gathering stage.  I like the Romeo1 pro due to price (it's not $700 like RMR).  Prior I was gonna go with a Holosun 507C or X.

But when I shot my friends P320 in various models, I didn't really like the feel of the gun. But the RXP grips are different than the standard P320 models.  But I never shot the P320 Legion type grips yet.  So I might hate that model too and back to the drawing board.
I haven't shot the P320 series with RDS, but I've shot them.  I was pretty close to getting an X5 version.  Then ammo and other stuff went to $hit and lost interest.  The cost of mags, holster, and pouches added to that decision as well.  That said, with that setup, you'll have a lot of opportunity to change things out.  Not cheap, but at least you'll have options. 

While I've heard good things about Holosun RDS on handguns, I haven't shot them much.  One of my buddies has one on his 34, but I haven't had a chance to shoot it.  They seem to get good reviews, with Sage Dynamics being one that comes to mind.  If they can stand up to his use (and abuse), that says a good amount  However, if you're pricing RMRs at $700, you're "doing it wrong". 
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stangzilla

Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Reply #139 on: April 05, 2021, 12:48:01 PM »


Holosun 507c with Trijicon suppressor height tough night sights
i now have 4 Holosun RDS (actually one is green).  1 is the 510c on my AR, the other 3 are 507c on pistols.  all function great.  you get a lot for what you pay for.  and from the testing i've seen they hold up to being used pretty good.  i dont beat on them as much as i seen in videos so i figure it should fit my needs very well
i've shot my friend's Sig Romeo on his Sig P320 Legion and it works great too.  i dont have a lot of experience with red dots, but i have zero complaints about the Holosuns.
i also like the Holosun bc of the reticle.  its like the  EoTech.  i like the dot with the circle.  for me having the circle helps pick up the target faster

recently i've brought several new shooters to kokohead and shot with the red dots on pistols and on the AR.  1 thing that is common with the  new shooter is that it is more difficult for them to pick up the dot than it is to aim with iron sights
having the G19 being able to co-witness makes it a little easier bc the new shooter is looking for the front sight and once they see the front sight in the window of the RDS, then they can pick up the dot
other pistol which does not co-witness was more difficult for the new shooter to pick up the dot bc when they sight the front sight, the dot is not visible
being able to point and shoot like muscle memory of pointing the gun makes it easier to pick up the dot.   practice, practice, practice   :thumbsup:
rifle was easier for the new shooters to pick up the red dot bc its easier to point shoot a rifle vs a pistol, IMO anyways

being somewhat of a traditionalist, i'm not going to put a dot on any of my revolvers or 1911's.  but that's just me.  i could change my mind down the road
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