I’ve only seen them on consignment and that’s a rarity. I’ve had luck with Cabela’s (Pietta 1858s), from what I’ve read the QC issues were from years ago and they’re pretty much god to go now. I hear the Ubertis are better in fit & finish, but I didn’t feel slighted by the Piettas I’ve bought and I do see they’re much better now than the older ones from fifteen years back. For example, the two recent ones will exchange part several with a few issues (trigger guards fit but had small gaps, cylinders were fine), whereas the older one wouldn’t interchange and there were machining marks. Craigslist occasionally has them too.