California guns as opposed to others (Read 14811 times)

Mr. Farknocker

California guns as opposed to others
« on: May 10, 2012, 04:59:51 PM »
Too new to the sport to know the difference between California legal rifles/handguns and Hawaii but not so new to know that they exist. I overheard one brother from Califonia at HPD (attempting to register his AR) mention to the attendant that he could only release the mag by sticking something into a hole to release the mag catch. I'm curious to know what are the other  differences  and/or restrictions for rifles and handguns in California?

Jkeone808

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 05:45:01 PM »
There's the bullet button you mentioned and I think you can't have a threaded barrel, other than that im not too sure.I bet it was one of those CA smith and wesson M&P rifles OGC got  shipped to them by mistake. They were only going for like $600.
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California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 05:45:41 PM »
thats what they call a bullet button. don't really know their rules other than the fact that they suck more than hawaii's.

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 06:07:50 PM »
The bullet button locks in the mag.  It is dumb. Just so ordinary folks cant change their mags fast like the LA bank robbers. 

You have to push in the mag release with a pin to release the mag......they make magnetic ones go google it....funny stuff...well not so funny

Bone head politicians.  It only prevents law abiding folks from changing their mags fast.

Do you think criminals are going to abide?

hmmmm thats why they disobey laws.

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 06:54:42 PM »
I've also see those gay riflestock/handgrip hybrids on cali guns a lot. Something like they can't have a pistol grip. Case in point, the hello kitty AR.

http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg

Mr. Farknocker

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 07:04:02 PM »
What about handguns?  Is the only limitation a restriction in mag capacity?

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 07:36:39 PM »
My XD45 box explicitly states that the gun is not legal in cali. For handguns, I think it has to do with a detachable magazine.

Kingkeoni

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 07:50:20 PM »
What about handguns?  Is the only limitation a restriction in mag capacity?

In order for a handgun to be legal in California, the manufacturer must provide a number (I think like 100) of handguns to the state for them to do their (California) safety tests on.
On top of that the manufacturer must pay for the tests. (drop tests, safety tests etc...) I think it's in the thousands of dollars range, on top of the cost of the guns. (The guns are not sent back)

Finally, if the handgun passes all of the tests, the manufacturer must pay California $300 a year for the privilege of selling that handgun in their state for one year.

This is for every single model of handgun.

Colossal waste of time, money and man hours.

A lot of new guns are not on the California approved list because they haven't gone through the tests yet.
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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 07:57:16 PM »
Damn CA Liberal Scam, I mean Scum!
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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 08:15:11 PM »
I've also see those gay riflestock/handgrip hybrids on cali guns a lot. Something like they can't have a pistol grip. Case in point, the hello kitty AR.

http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg

That's just about the ugliest thing I've ever seen.
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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 08:18:50 PM »
If your moving to California can you bring handguns not on the approved list?

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 08:24:47 PM »
If your moving to California can you bring handguns not on the approved list?

Not supposed to

Here's how to find out if your gun is California approved.
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/
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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 08:38:01 PM »
Sorry KK you're not on the list so you cant get into CALI no more.....
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Kingkeoni

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 08:52:18 PM »
Sorry KK you're not on the list so you cant get into CALI no more.....

That's almost true. Hahaha
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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 09:19:20 PM »
The roster is really really stupid -- you can have the same gun, different color, and it can be 'banned.' Because they haven't tested the model in Flat Dark Earth.

Another stupid thing,  California has Magazine disconnects (which have made their way into some of our Hawaii guns).  I'm going to ensure that the next guns I buy don't have mag disconnects or I won't purchase them.  I recently made this mistake when picking up a springfield xdm 40;  Magazine gets loose or you are reloading, you can't shoot the damn gun.
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Mr. Farknocker

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2012, 09:51:23 PM »
Looks like California is a posterchild of what a State looks like if its free citizens are not vigilent with respect to their gun rights.

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 04:07:43 AM »
Another stupid thing,  California has Magazine disconnects (which have made their way into some of our Hawaii guns).  I'm going to ensure that the next guns I buy don't have mag disconnects or I won't purchase them.  I recently made this mistake when picking up a springfield xdm 40;  Magazine gets loose or you are reloading, you can't shoot the damn gun.

Magazine disconnects are a safety feature. If someone is trying to take away your gun and you think you might lose it then you disconnect the magazine and you cannot get shot by your own gun. It has its ups and its downs. Some people want the feature some do not.

I certainly don't think that they should be mandated for public ownership but magazine disconnects themselves have a purpose in firearms.

Kingkeoni

Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2012, 07:38:19 AM »
Magazine disconnects are a safety feature. If someone is trying to take away your gun and you think you might lose it then you disconnect the magazine and you cannot get shot by your own gun. It has its ups and its downs. Some people want the feature some do not.

I certainly don't think that they should be mandated for public ownership but magazine disconnects themselves have a purpose in firearms.

Hahaha  :rofl:

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Re: California guns as opposed to others
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2012, 08:11:43 AM »
Magazine disconnects are a safety feature. If someone is trying to take away your gun and you think you might lose it then you disconnect the magazine and you cannot get shot by your own gun. It has its ups and its downs. Some people want the feature some do not.

I certainly don't think that they should be mandated for public ownership but magazine disconnects themselves have a purpose in firearms.
They're a stupid safety feature, but you're right, they are a safety feature.  Personally, I think it's more likely that I'll hit the magazine release inadvertently in a high-stress situation (like I've seen people do on the drawstroke at the range) than a criminal is to relieve me of a loaded, functional firearm.  The magazine disconnect only helps you if you've already drawn the gun and are holding it in more or less a shooting grip.  It does nothing if you get cold-cocked and they remove it from your holster.  The upshot is, I think it's a really dumb idea.  If you've got the gun in your hand, why don't you try shooting the bastard who's trying to take it instead of rendering it useless?  (And this is coming from a guy who hates the entire GLOCK line of handguns because a shitty trigger does not make a good safety!  :D)
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