Hmmmm... everyone burned out on dealing with these?

Used a .45 handgun. ("military-style assault weapons" ban would not have made a difference... though the cops are playing cute saying they found "other weapons" at the site but won't way what they were... "handgun ban" the proposed solution?)

Likely passed a background check ("universal background checks" would not have made a difference... but it is possible that he acquired all his weapons either via private transactions where that is legal, or illegally... "gun ban" the solution?)

No reports of "red flag" threats or mental abnormalities ("red flag law" fail if there even would have been one... but maybe he had done things, the cops are playing cute on that one too and won't say anything about anything, including if he was about to lose his job... "ban all guns" solution?)

No mention of whether the public building was a "gun-free zone"... I suspect it was, in which case no one there would have been legally allowed to defend themselves with the only tool likely to have been effective. (Solution: "ban all guns"?)

Shooter is black, so we know what will happen by monday.

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Virginia beach had a mass casaulty drill in april...#tinfoil

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"Cache"... right... 4 guns is a "cache"... I suppose a "cache" could be one... one more and it would have been an "arsenal"... especially if he had over 500 100 50 rounds of ammo...

Virginia Beach police zero in on shooter's weapons cache and job background

"Virginia Beach Police are turning their focus to the weapons cache and job history of the man whose Friday shooting spree at a municipal complex killed 12 people and injured several more."

"As for weaponry, two .45-caliber pistols were said to have been used by the shooter, and two other guns were recovered at the shooter's home, the chief said. At least three of the weapons were purchased legally, though the history of the fourth was not immediately known. The two weapons used at the municipal center were purchased in 2016 and 2018 by the shooter, officials said." [So the two he used to murder people were legally acquired... does that mean background checks or legal private transfers? I'm guessing hte new version of "universal background checks" will include a 4-times-per-year psychological evaluation by a state-approved mental health professional... .just like Josh Green's bill proposed a few years ago...]

"Cache"... right... 4 guns is a "cache"... I suppose a "cache" could be one... one more and it would have been an "arsenal"... especially if he had over 500 100 50 rounds of ammo...

Virginia Beach police zero in on shooter's weapons cache and job background

"Virginia Beach Police are turning their focus to the weapons cache and job history of the man whose Friday shooting spree at a municipal complex killed 12 people and injured several more."

"As for weaponry, two .45-caliber pistols were said to have been used by the shooter, and two other guns were recovered at the shooter's home, the chief said. At least three of the weapons were purchased legally, though the history of the fourth was not immediately known. The two weapons used at the municipal center were purchased in 2016 and 2018 by the shooter, officials said." [So the two he used to murder people were legally acquired... does that mean background checks or legal private transfers? I'm guessing hte new version of "universal background checks" will include a 4-times-per-year psychological evaluation by a state-approved mental health professional... .just like Josh Green's bill proposed a few years ago...]

There's no firearm registration system in Virginia.  So, to know he bought the guns legally would require a record.  Hence, the purchases could be traced to the gun shop/s that sold to him.  I'm assuming the fourth was a private party sale, and the serial number only points the investigators to the original retail purchaser.

No matter which guns were used and how many may have been illegally purchased, the fact that he legally purchased any of them means he had the tools he needed via the normal retail ATF/NICS/FFL-controlled system. Making private sale/s more burdensome via more background checks would have had zero effect on the outcome.  Similar to here, with the requirement to get permits for all handguns no matter how many you already have, vs. long guns, where you can buy hundreds in 12 months with no additional background checks.  (p.s. long gun includes scary black military style weapons).

It's tiresome for so many to focus on gun laws when we know they won't stop a single act of violence.  A man willing to murder a dozen or more people and have a gun battle with police isn't worried about breaking gun laws.

police/dispatch scanner audio halfway down.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/dewayne-craddock/
found via arfcom.

"disgruntled" employee.  ya think that when somebody gets laid off at work, or reprimanded, disciplined, demoted, etc, it'll trigger automatic Red Flag confiscation?  maybe even divorce?

B4 any employeer fires anyone, they will submit to hpd to see if they have any registered guns ever. And if yes, red flag comes into play. Hpd will be waiting outside the office of the manager deliviering the news to the emplyee. Then they will escort them home.

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"disgruntled" employee.  ya think that when somebody gets laid off at work, or reprimanded, disciplined, demoted, etc, it'll trigger automatic Red Flag confiscation?  maybe even divorce?

B4 any employeer fires anyone, they will submit to hpd to see if they have any registered guns ever. And if yes, red flag comes into play. Hpd will be waiting outside the office of the manager deliviering the news to the emplyee. Then they will escort them home.

I think you've captured the essence of the "commonsense gun safety laws" concept. "We're here to preemptively confiscate all your firearms (and car keys and hammers and knives and pieces of pipe and chainsaw and skilsaw and rope and wire, etc)., because your employer/spouse/child/parent/neighbor/etc. is going to tell you something in the near future that may induce a "negative" emotional reaction in you and we don't want you or anyone else getting hurt. In fact, let us help you into this straightjacket... for your own protection."

and this is probably where Karl Rhoads is going in his grand ultimate design.

how's that for Due Process for you!

when you get divorced, no guns for you!
when you get turned down for a job application, no guns for you!
when you lose out on the promotion, no guns for you!
whey you don't make the basketball team, no guns for you!
etc.

"we need to do something"

Dr. Lott chimes in with the facts (and links to the details) to counter the horseshit lies being spread by the DemonRat presidential candidates, et al.

Another mass public shooting, another place where the victims were banned from carrying guns, the attack at Virginia Beach


https://crimeresearch.org/2019/06/another-mass-public-shooting-another-place-where-the-victims-were-banned-from-carrying-guns-the-attack-at-virginia-beach/

Another horrifying attack and immediately gun control politicians and organizations are calling for more gun control laws. Former VP Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala Harris, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former congressman Beto O’Rourke, Cory Booker and many others put out calls for more gun control within a few hours of the tragedy. The question of “How many more?” is a question that we ask ourselves all the time. Now the desire “to do something” is very understandable, but let’s try to do something that would actually matter.

More on our list of mass public shootings and gun-free zones since 1950 in the US is available here. For some of the quotes from the killers themselves on explicitly picking targets where people won’t have guns, see the information here. The prevalence of mass public shootings around the world can be seen here. Of course, all the mass public shootings in Europe since at least 1980 have taken place in gun-free zones.

He gave 2 weeks notice and was in good standing.

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He gave 2 weeks notice and was in good standing.

Are you calling all those media outlets reporting that he was "a disgruntled employee who had received notice of termination" liars? Or "fake news"?

Are you calling all those media outlets reporting that he was "a disgruntled employee who had received notice of termination" liars? Or "fake news"?

Yes, well disgruntled is correct.  Email sent hours prior.

1 PD says his pistol had a supressor on it. Wait to see supressor ban like how bump stocks were?

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Yup, star advertiser has an article about "silencers".

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Yup, star advertiser has an article about "silencers".

Today on Meet the Press "host" Chuck Todd pressed White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney about suppressors/"silencers"... and unfortunately Mulvaney came back with the example of the President/White House supporting the ban on bumpstocks. I don't see that as a good sign.

The past two days of headlines from AWR Hawkins at Breitbart about sums it up:

https://www.breitbart.com/author/awr-hawkins/

Report: Virginia Beach Gunman Was Facing Disciplinary Action at Work

Report: Site of Virginia Beach Shooting Another Gun-Free Zone

Alyssa Milano Demands Gun Control Law that Wouldn’t Have Stopped Virginia Beach Shooting

Sen. Michael Bennet Blames Mitch McConnell for Virginia Beach Shooting

Mark Warner Talks ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban After VA Beach Handgun Attack

Virginia Beach Police Chief: No Gun Control Would Have Prevented Deadly Attack

How close is the nearest police station?

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Today on Meet the Press "host" Chuck Todd pressed White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney about suppressors/"silencers"... and unfortunately Mulvaney came back with the example of the President/White House supporting the ban on bumpstocks. I don't see that as a good sign.

For those in free-er states.....hold onto your butts.  First bump stocks, now silencers could be next by presidential fiat. 

Is it too cynical (/#tinfoil) to predict a "mass public shooting" within the next 24 months involving an SBS and/or SBR?