Water Storage for Evacuation (Read 8857 times)

macsak

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2019, 11:01:24 AM »
sam's club had these 3 packs
https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Personal-Camping-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B072BC51LT/
for $42.98
there weren't many left though

changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2019, 11:14:39 AM »
I have a feeling it was the old formula -- timeframe was 2000-ish.

I would have been bouncing if I wasn't so terrified of moving.   :shake:

Yup that was the OG,  They were one of the 1st on the market as a preworkout.  Had all kinds of goodies in it.  Although caffeine has been around forever, but many as coffee in the Arnold days.

So my daily caffeine intake is about 500mg.  200mg in the morning (coffee), then about 12 hours later 300mg (preworkout).  Then go gym and train hard so I can sleep by 12am ish.  If I don't train hard, cannot sleep till 2am.

zippz

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2019, 07:22:54 AM »
sam's club had these 3 packs
https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Personal-Camping-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B072BC51LT/
for $42.98
there weren't many left though

Doesn't protect against lepto, which is one of the main threats here.
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macsak

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2019, 07:28:18 AM »
Doesn't protect against lepto, which is one of the main threats here.

oh, shit
I missed that
thanks
considering returning it now...

zippz

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2019, 09:23:19 AM »
oh, shit
I missed that
thanks
considering returning it now...

Was reading more into it.  Lepto is .2-.3 microns in diamater and 30 microns in length so the lifestraws .2 micron filter may filter it out.  It's not listed on the lifestraw website as filtering it out, but this website says it's effective against it.  http://adventuresafety.com.au/diseases-removed-by-lifestraw/
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changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2019, 10:20:33 AM »
Doesn't protect against lepto, which is one of the main threats here.

Would the tablets or chlorox be any good?

macsak

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2019, 10:52:24 AM »
Was reading more into it.  Lepto is .2-.3 microns in diamater and 30 microns in length so the lifestraws .2 micron filter may filter it out.  It's not listed on the lifestraw website as filtering it out, but this website says it's effective against it.  http://adventuresafety.com.au/diseases-removed-by-lifestraw/

lepto is 0.1 microns

here's the definitive document, i believe
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2631/0778/t/4/assets/LSGo-Play-Universal-SteelEvidenceDossier-1544005258320.pdf

drck1000

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2019, 11:06:12 AM »
lepto is 0.1 microns

here's the definitive document, i believe
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2631/0778/t/4/assets/LSGo-Play-Universal-SteelEvidenceDossier-1544005258320.pdf
I have a couple of these.

Survivor Filter - 0.05 Micron Portable Water Filter Straw with a Cleanable UF Memb... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA97I8M/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_GzudDbTN4TH33

I also have another one that I used when we camped in WA. I’d have to check the micron level, but we didn’t get sick.  :o

drck1000

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2019, 11:06:58 AM »
oh, shit
I missed that
thanks
considering returning it now...
I’ll take them. $5  ;D

zippz

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2019, 11:12:57 AM »
lepto is 0.1 microns

here's the definitive document, i believe
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2631/0778/t/4/assets/LSGo-Play-Universal-SteelEvidenceDossier-1544005258320.pdf

Think you mean 0.1 micrometers.

0.1micrometers =  0.2 microns
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macsak

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2019, 11:56:02 AM »
Think you mean 0.1 micrometers.

0.1micrometers =  0.2 microns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometre

RSN172

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2019, 12:25:47 PM »
Boil your water first, then filter.  Boiling will kill lepto. 

zippz

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2019, 01:14:18 PM »
Would the tablets or chlorox be any good?

"Treat stream water and catchment water by vigorous boiling for 1 minute or chemical treatment before drinking. Filters may not work."
http://health.hawaii.gov/about/files/2013/06/leptobrochure.pdf


UV from steripens kills everything as long as the water is clear.  Still need a charcoal filter if chemicals or heavy metals are present.
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Eric808

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2019, 03:25:29 PM »
SODIS Method: Using Plastic Bottles and the Sun to Purify Water
https://www.superprepper.com/sodis/

If you have time, "harmful contaminants that will be killed after 6 hours of exposure to the sun..." but does not mention liptos

another article:
https://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/how-to-purify-water-with-sunlight/

zippz

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2019, 04:09:56 PM »
Another method, doesn't disinfect but gotta do whatever it takes to survive.

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changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2019, 09:21:07 AM »
Another method, doesn't disinfect but gotta do whatever it takes to survive.


Wait thats for survival only? I do that as my daily water intake.

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DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2019, 05:39:13 PM »
Thanks All for the replies.  here are my thoughts on the replies:

1.  Scotch is a better choice than beer - more concentrated and easier to carry
2. For those filtering water - the main danger from filters will be the chemicals dissolved in the water supply.  While filters will filter out living pathogens the toxic chemicals from all the crap washed into the streams will not be filterable. 
3.  I have 250 gallons of on site storage plus 30 gallons of potable bottled water, in addition to 55 gallons of bathtub storage- Bugging in is not the issue.  The challenge is how to carry 3 days of water to a new location (Bug Out)

In my opinion, the best solution is to set up our own safe houses in case any one of our homes becomes unlivable do to disaster (single wall houses).  We all know the recommended evacuation zones are deathtraps of plate glass.  We either take care of each other and our own or we are worthless pieces of shit.

DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2019, 05:46:41 PM »
Might be more logistical to carry filter straws or filtration system.  There's flowing water all over the island to be used.

Problem is that water supply will be contaminated with chemicals that cannot be filtered out.  The scenario is carrying the potable water with you.  It is the only way to be sure.

drck1000

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2019, 12:30:37 PM »
SNIP

In my opinion, the best solution is to set up our own safe houses in case any one of our homes becomes unlivable do to disaster (single wall houses).  We all know the recommended evacuation zones are deathtraps of plate glass.  We either take care of each other and our own or we are worthless pieces of shit.
Assume folks will have very different plans based on their circumstances (yeah, thanks Capt Obvious  ;D ).  For me, I sort of have a series of "safehouses" with family where I have either encouraged that household stock up on stuff or flat out got some stuff for them.  That includes stuff like water, medical supplies, etc.  Sure, I have close friends where we've discussed stuff like "if X happens, I'll come over your place with Y" and vice versa.  While I do think contingencies with close friends are good, in my case, I am more depending on the contingencies with family.  There was a thread a while back on how would one react in the case where the individual has taken time and spent money investing in preps and how they would handle friends and family assistance.  It was an interesting discussion, but the point I was getting to is that I think a lot of the "preplanning" goes out the window depending on the disaster event.  Like those books like Lights Out and the ones about EMPs have some eye/mind opening stories in that regard.  People tend to envision a certain scenario and prepare for that, which is logical given we all don't have unlimited resources.  But a saying that a mentor shared with me a while back always stuck with me is that "95% of the time, it's what you don't see coming that will kick your ass". 

Rocky

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2019, 12:50:16 PM »
Assume folks will have very different plans based on their circumstances (yeah, thanks Capt Obvious  ;D ).  For me, I sort of have a series of "safehouses" with family where I have either encouraged that household stock up on stuff or flat out got some stuff for them.  That includes stuff like water, medical supplies, etc.  Sure, I have close friends where we've discussed stuff like "if X happens, I'll come over your place with Y" and vice versa.  While I do think contingencies with close friends are good, in my case, I am more depending on the contingencies with family.  There was a thread a while back on how would one react in the case where the individual has taken time and spent money investing in preps and how they would handle friends and family assistance.  It was an interesting discussion, but the point I was getting to is that I think a lot of the "preplanning" goes out the window depending on the disaster event.  Like those books like Lights Out and the ones about EMPs have some eye/mind opening stories in that regard.  People tend to envision a certain scenario and prepare for that, which is logical given we all don't have unlimited resources.  But a saying that a mentor shared with me a while back always stuck with me is that "95% of the time, it's what you don't see coming that will kick your ass".
    True Dat.
I've always considered Hurricanes and Tsunamis the biggest threat and have prepared accordingly.
That "Missile Scare" caught me off guard and totally  FUBARed my bug out time and boy did Rockette let me know that. :love:

   We now have that pretty much covered as much as humanely possible and await the newest "catastrophe" to rear it's ugly head to prepare for.
Worse case scenario I foresee would be Zombies, Plague or the Democrats taking position in 2020.
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