Water Storage for Evacuation (Read 3045 times)

Rocky

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2019, 11:50:25 AM »
Was reading more into it.  Lepto is .2-.3 microns in diamater and 30 microns in length so the lifestraws .2 micron filter may filter it out.  It's not listed on the lifestraw website as filtering it out, but this website says it's effective against it.  http://adventuresafety.com.au/diseases-removed-by-lifestraw/
Sawyer Mini vs. LifeStraw
https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/07/15/sawyer-mini-vs-lifestraw/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2019-07-16&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter
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Eric808

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2019, 06:20:35 PM »


i do not own any guns, ammo, or any reloading components...
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DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2019, 07:45:23 PM »
Sawyer Mini vs. LifeStraw
https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/07/15/sawyer-mini-vs-lifestraw/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2019-07-16&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

Life straws and filters won't remove it.  That is why I am so concerned about water storage.  ALL STREAMS will be contaminated after a hurricane. 

https://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/tag/leptospirosis-water-filter/

Leptospira are incredibly small – they can pass through the pores in water filters, even those that claim to remove bacteria. They will pass easily through filters with a pore size of more than 0.2 micron, including membrane and charcoal types. High-pressure laboratory filters with a pore size of less than 0.1 micron will block them, but the typical hand-held water filters used by hikers, pool filters and the fitted canisters used in some domestic kitchen appliances are useless at removing leptospires – they are often used to separate leptospires from other bacteria when preparing samples for research, as the leptospires pass through but other bacteria don’t!

“The Leptospira bacteria are in general about 0.1µm in diameter and 10-20µm in length (0.2 to 0.3 microns in diameter; 6 to 30 microns in length). In comparison, a red blood cell is about 7µm in diameter, so despite being quite long, the very small width of leptospires makes them difficult to see under optical microscopes unless a contrast-enhancing technique such as dark-field is used.”

https://www.leptospirosis.org/bacteria/

London808

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2019, 08:40:46 PM »
Life straws and filters won't remove it.  That is why I am so concerned about water storage.  ALL STREAMS will be contaminated after a hurricane. 

https://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/tag/leptospirosis-water-filter/

Leptospira are incredibly small – they can pass through the pores in water filters, even those that claim to remove bacteria. They will pass easily through filters with a pore size of more than 0.2 micron, including membrane and charcoal types. High-pressure laboratory filters with a pore size of less than 0.1 micron will block them, but the typical hand-held water filters used by hikers, pool filters and the fitted canisters used in some domestic kitchen appliances are useless at removing leptospires – they are often used to separate leptospires from other bacteria when preparing samples for research, as the leptospires pass through but other bacteria don’t!

“The Leptospira bacteria are in general about 0.1µm in diameter and 10-20µm in length (0.2 to 0.3 microns in diameter; 6 to 30 microns in length). In comparison, a red blood cell is about 7µm in diameter, so despite being quite long, the very small width of leptospires makes them difficult to see under optical microscopes unless a contrast-enhancing technique such as dark-field is used.”

https://www.leptospirosis.org/bacteria/

What hes saying is. BOIL OR CHEMICAL TREAT YOUR WATER. Using only a filter should only be done if its all you have.

This is such a big problem that even the CDC has a page dedicated to it for after hurricanes.

https://www.cdc.gov/leptospirosis/exposure/hurricanes-leptospirosis.html
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DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2019, 10:13:46 AM »
What hes saying is. BOIL OR CHEMICAL TREAT YOUR WATER. Using only a filter should only be done if its all you have.

This is such a big problem that even the CDC has a page dedicated to it for after hurricanes.

https://www.cdc.gov/leptospirosis/exposure/hurricanes-leptospirosis.html

Exactly.  Except that boiling and treating for bacteria won't remove chemical pollution from streams, ponds, and aquifers.

changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2019, 01:53:32 PM »
Exactly.  Except that boiling and treating for bacteria won't remove chemical pollution from streams, ponds, and aquifers.

Add Siracha and good to go.

RSN172

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2019, 09:48:04 PM »
Exactly.  Except that boiling and treating for bacteria won't remove chemical pollution from streams, ponds, and aquifers.

Instead of bottled water, stock up on bottled beer.

Rocky

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2019, 09:57:20 AM »
Life straws and filters won't remove it.  That is why I am so concerned about water storage.  ALL STREAMS will be contaminated after a hurricane. 

https://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/tag/leptospirosis-water-filter/

Leptospira are incredibly small – they can pass through the pores in water filters, even those that claim to remove bacteria. They will pass easily through filters with a pore size of more than 0.2 micron, including membrane and charcoal types. High-pressure laboratory filters with a pore size of less than 0.1 micron will block them, but the typical hand-held water filters used by hikers, pool filters and the fitted canisters used in some domestic kitchen appliances are useless at removing leptospires – they are often used to separate leptospires from other bacteria when preparing samples for research, as the leptospires pass through but other bacteria don’t!

“The Leptospira bacteria are in general about 0.1µm in diameter and 10-20µm in length (0.2 to 0.3 microns in diameter; 6 to 30 microns in length). In comparison, a red blood cell is about 7µm in diameter, so despite being quite long, the very small width of leptospires makes them difficult to see under optical microscopes unless a contrast-enhancing technique such as dark-field is used.”

https://www.leptospirosis.org/bacteria/

   My post was in reference to Lepto and that the Sawyer filter had a 0.1 micron filter which is suitable for removing Lepto where the LifeStraws0.2 micron filter was not.
I also agree that boiling is the best way but even that won't remove chemicals.

   So run 16 drops bleach per gallon, run thru a 0.1 micron filter to remove solids and larger bacteria, then a carbon filter to remove  Chlorine, Chloramine's, Heavy Metals, Pharmaceuticals and other chemicals and then boil for 10 minutes. Shake it up to re-introduce oxygen lost in boiling.

   Too much work, BYOB    ;D
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changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2019, 10:15:35 AM »
Easier to just buy 55 gal drums and fill them up with water prior to SHTF.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2019, 01:06:09 PM »
Easier to just buy 55 gal drums and fill them up with water prior to SHTF.

They make plastic "b\ladders" for storing water in the bath tub.  Just fill it up, and you have a pretty substantial amount of water to sustain you.

https://www.amazon.com/WaterBOB-Emergency-Container-Drinking-Hurricane/dp/B001AXLUX2

People ask, "But, how am I going to take a bath with that thing taking up my entire tub?"

These are the people who don't deserve to survive.

(Hint:  What water are you going to bath in?  Not the drinking water!!)
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.

DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2019, 11:35:18 PM »
They make plastic "b\ladders" for storing water in the bath tub.  Just fill it up, and you have a pretty substantial amount of water to sustain you.

https://www.amazon.com/WaterBOB-Emergency-Container-Drinking-Hurricane/dp/B001AXLUX2

People ask, "But, how am I going to take a bath with that thing taking up my entire tub?"

These are the people who don't deserve to survive.

(Hint:  What water are you going to bath in?  Not the drinking water!!)

I have one of these 'BOBS'.  Not sure why but they are hard to find now.  I also have a 250 gallon cistern ready to go in addition to my stored water supply.  My plan is to bug in and keep a watchful eye over my family and preps instead of having to run 1/4 mile down the street to a stream every time I want to drink from a straw.  You can bet if you leave someone who has been watching you will know and take the opportunity to help themselves.

DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2019, 08:19:58 AM »
So I decided to buy a Rotopax 2gallon container as part of my Hurricane Shelter prep.  2 Gallons will only weigh 16 pounds so it is a manageable size.  It is also SUPER DURABLE and will not break unlike the other units I have seen on the market. And yes, it wasn't cheap but it is locally available at the 4wheelparts store in Waipahu.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2019, 08:26:04 AM by DesertRangerTycho »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2019, 09:34:02 AM »
So I decided to buy a Rotopax 2gallon container as part of my Hurricane Shelter prep.  2 Gallons will only weigh 16 pounds so it is a manageable size.  It is also SUPER DURABLE and will not break unlike the other units I have seen on the market. And yes, it wasn't cheap but it is locally available at the 4wheelparts store in Waipahu.



It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.

changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2019, 09:54:13 AM »
On a side note, it's funny to watch people scramble and get nutz when a hurricane is coming.

For me I sit back and just relax knowing I'm all stocked up and don't have to go thru that.

DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2019, 07:22:07 PM »




Yup.  That's where I heard of them.  Awesome guy.  Great values.

DesertRangerTycho

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2019, 10:17:01 PM »
On a side note, it's funny to watch people scramble and get nutz when a hurricane is coming.

For me I sit back and just relax knowing I'm all stocked up and don't have to go thru that.

Why turn down a great excuse to buy more ammo?

macsak

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2019, 07:14:29 AM »
On a side note, it's funny to watch people scramble and get nutz when a hurricane is coming.

For me I sit back and just relax knowing I'm all stocked up and don't have to go thru that.

Costco was twice as busy as it normally is last night
I live on the east side and frequently (once or twice every 2 weeks) go at or after 8 pm
there were a number of people still in the aisles at closing time

changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #77 on: July 31, 2019, 09:14:49 AM »
Costco was twice as busy as it normally is last night
I live on the east side and frequently (once or twice every 2 weeks) go at or after 8 pm
there were a number of people still in the aisles at closing time

I might go Target tonight.  I need some regular food stuff.  Probably pick up the Evian gallon jug.  Easier to store than the 24 water bottle cases.

revk

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2019, 08:23:06 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: Water Storage for Evacuation
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2019, 10:33:14 AM »
People say caffeine is a diuretic, but I don't piss any more when drinking a prewo.  Coffee yes.