Don't be so sensitive; we are all ohana.      

All these TMT and other protesters need to remember, IIRC, that one of the Kings Kamehameha, don't know which number, gave away a lot of the land and that is why we have the rich haoles with last names like the Damon, Campbell, Cooke, Castle, Brewer, Davies, Baldwin, to name a few.

You forgot Parker. They are also still in the business.

When are you going to provide us with your credentials that would validate your expertise, which is your own stated criteria for making any relevant statements about the whole of the "annexation" etc. issues?

So TMT applies for permit in another area...back up plan or trolling?

So TMT applies for permit in another area...back up plan or trolling?

I thought their 2nd choice was the Canary Islands, but Mauna Kea is a distant first, best place in the world, supposedly.

I thought their 2nd choice was the Canary Islands, but Mauna Kea is a distant first, best place in the world, supposedly.

It's like wanting a 2019 BMW, but your 2nd draft choice car is a 1996 Honda Civic. 

Or you wanted an HK, but can't afford it.  So you buy a Glock. 

This analyst believes the TMT will never be built here and I agree with him.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/08/neal-milner-the-doomsday-scenario-on-mauna-kea-wont-ever-happen/

We, Hawaiians, are more organized than people give us credit.  All of the people who criticized the protestors on the mauna really had no idea just how many of us were up there and, more importantly, the logistical and financial support that poured in from Hawaiians at home and abroad.

Our people have finally awakened, are educated, and armed with the truth.  Whether TMT will finally be built is of little meaning in the long-run.  This is only the beginning and restoration of our nation is in our sights.

IMUA!

The participation has been impressive but what about the native Hawaiians who are for the TMT? I have seen a number and they are hesitant to speak up due to the hateful speech, the peer pressure, and the posts that suggest violence on those who want the telescope.

You mean like myself.  I never had a serious problem about the furthering of science via telescopes.  However, there were more fundamental issues that concerned many Hawaiians than their support of TMT, which resulted in their ultimate solidarity with the majority of Hawaiians who were against TMT.

If you think Hawaiians who were in support of TMT were scared of speaking their mind, that is a very wrong presumption that is very far from the truth.  Hawaiians have no problem arguing and fighting with each other, if you have not noticed in recent history.


It continues to be my position that the protestors are picking the wrong hill to die on. There is plenty to protest but they have chosen a poor issue to finally unite behind.

You are correct.

However, TMT has galvanized the Hawaiian consciousness and united our people from all over the globe for the first time in decades, which has now signaled us to pursue our greatest prize.

However, TMT has galvanized the Hawaiian consciousness and united our people from all over the globe for the first time in decades, which has now signaled us to pursue our greatest prize.

The participation has been impressive but what about the native Hawaiians who are for the TMT? I have seen a number and they are hesitant to speak up due to the hateful speech, the peer pressure, and the posts that suggest violence on those who want the telescope.

It continues to be my position that the protestors are picking the wrong hill to die on. There is plenty to protest but they have chosen a poor issue to finally unite behind.