Maunakea TMT Protests (Read 273043 times)

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #600 on: August 15, 2019, 12:30:37 PM »
If the government cowards won't move criminals off a public roadway, why would they take double-secret probation legal action to claim even more legal right?

Besides, nothing the state could ever do is legal under the sovereignty claim that all actions after 1893 are null and void due to an illegal occupation. I  mean the state can do it, the courts, including the Supreme Court of Hawaii can uphold it... but it's still null and void. Ask the superstitious racist criminals themselves... they'll tell ya in no uncertain terms.

That is your first assessment of TMT that I am in total agreement with you!      :thumbsup:

Except the superstitious racist criminal part.      :(

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #601 on: August 15, 2019, 12:32:33 PM »
I'm guessing that litigation would take at least 5 years. And...1. the sovereignty people would still claim it's illegal thus null and void, and 2. you'd likely still have someone in charge of the government who wouldn't be willing to enforce the law (e.g. Green).

Don't you just love the local government of the state of Hawaii?      :shaka:

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #602 on: August 15, 2019, 12:37:24 PM »
Let them leave!
Define the territory they want, set borders and let them go.
If I'm stuck in the wrong spot,  we can do it the old fashioned way.
War.
That is the Hawaiian way.


Your interpretation of war being that of the "Hawaiian way" is so wrong on many levels.  And your call for war, presumably against Hawaiians, is HATE SPEECH.

punaperson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #603 on: August 15, 2019, 01:14:18 PM »
Your interpretation of war being that of the "Hawaiian way" is so wrong on many levels.  And your call for war, presumably against Hawaiians, is HATE SPEECH.
LOL! Yeah, groveler, can't you tell the difference between a little friendly sporting competition and "war". Good grief man, get a grip. You know, like this:



You typical "hawaiian" fun event.

drck1000

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #604 on: August 15, 2019, 01:16:14 PM »
And the sad thing is he is almost sure to be elected Gov.
I hope he finds dirt on the Clintons. . .

Or someone should plant some on him.

punaperson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #605 on: August 15, 2019, 01:17:29 PM »
That is your first assessment of TMT that I am in total agreement with you!      :thumbsup:

Except the superstitious racist criminal part.      :(
Good to know that you are in total agreement that a primary issue is getting "criminals off a public roadway".

First thing you ever said that acknowledges actual reality.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #606 on: August 15, 2019, 01:19:50 PM »

Your interpretation of war being that of the "Hawaiian way" is so wrong on many levels.  And your call for war, presumably against Hawaiians, is HATE SPEECH.

Hate speech doesn't exist.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #607 on: August 15, 2019, 01:20:57 PM »
Don't you just love the local government of the state of Hawaii?      :shaka:
Obviously not, but clearly what you envision would be even worse, by miles.

So, when are you going to produce the quotes from the constitutions of the "kingdom" and/or "republic" that give even the slightest protection to the right to keep and bear arms?

I notice in that painting that while I see smoke from firearms being used by Kamehameha's sports team (NOT "war") the other side doesn't seem to be returning fire. Hmmm. I wonder why?

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #608 on: August 15, 2019, 01:37:24 PM »
Good to know that you are in total agreement that a primary issue is getting "criminals off a public roadway".

First thing you ever said that acknowledges actual reality.

I beg your pardon, I do not view people exercising free speech as criminals.

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #609 on: August 15, 2019, 01:41:41 PM »
LOL! Yeah, groveler, can't you tell the difference between a little friendly sporting competition and "war". Good grief man, get a grip. You know, like this:



You typical "hawaiian" fun event.

You really hate anything Hawaiian don't you that you take a painting of the Battle of Nuuanu Pali and make disrespecting comments of those who participated in that battle.

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #610 on: August 15, 2019, 01:43:02 PM »
Hate speech doesn't exist.



Well, making threatening comments to Hawaiians is more accurate then.

punaperson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #611 on: August 15, 2019, 01:51:28 PM »
You really hate anything Hawaiian don't you that you take a painting of the Battle of Nuuanu Pali and make disrespecting comments of those who participated in that battle.
What are you talking about? That can't be a "battle"... that is a term of "war"... and that's not the "hawaiian" way, according to you.

PS Could you please direct me to the politically correct historical accounts of the events pictured, as all the ones I have ever read have used the word "war" as part of the telling of the tale (and the other similar exploits of the "king").

punaperson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #612 on: August 15, 2019, 01:55:55 PM »
Well, making threatening comments to Hawaiians is more accurate then.
You're so full of shit.

A fifth grader could read groveler's comment and know without doubt that what he was saying is "come and take it". But since you obviously don't even know the meaning of words like "war", it's not all that surprising that you don't know the meaning of "threat" either. So now someone saying "I will defend myself, my family, and my property" is a threat? Figures.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #613 on: August 15, 2019, 03:23:20 PM »
Well, making threatening comments to Hawaiians is more accurate then.

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Let them leave!
Define the territory they want, set borders and let them go.
If I'm stuck in the wrong spot,  we can do it the old fashioned way.
War.
That is the Hawaiian way.

Someone on an Internet forum said "War."  That's definitely a threat.

You should report this credible threat to the police.  Perhaps they'll even approve CCW for you, since -- you know -- threat!!   :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #614 on: August 15, 2019, 03:36:01 PM »
Someone on an Internet forum said "War."  That's definitely a threat.

"If I'm stuck in the wrong spot,  we can do it the old fashioned way.
War. "

Where is the wrong spot?  It appears to be all of Hawaii.

Do it the old fashion way...War, I wonder to whom this is being directed to?  It appears to be Hawaiians.

drck1000

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #615 on: August 15, 2019, 03:56:11 PM »
Are you guys really arguing the logic or rationale behind the "war" post?   ??? :facepalm:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #616 on: August 15, 2019, 04:45:52 PM »
"If I'm stuck in the wrong spot,  we can do it the old fashioned way.
War. "

Where is the wrong spot?  It appears to be all of Hawaii.

Do it the old fashion way...War, I wonder to whom this is being directed to?  It appears to be Hawaiians. 

Reading comprehension is key.

Quote
Let them leave!
Define the territory they want, set borders and let them go.
If I'm stuck in the wrong spot,  we can do it the old fashioned way.
War.
That is the Hawaiian way.

Unless you think the "borders" will include all of Hawaii, then your argument is off base.

Since you wonder to WHOM the word "war" was directed, that by definition fails to rise to the level of a threat.  A comment made against an unnamed or nonspecific person or group is an opinion, not a threat.  In your opinion, it "appears to be Hawaiians".  Again, your opinion doesn't constitute a threat.


Are you guys really arguing the logic or rationale behind the "war" post?   ??? :facepalm:

There's no argument.  Just being entertained by the nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #617 on: August 15, 2019, 05:03:37 PM »
lets recap:
out of all the places to protest or "protect" and illegally obstruct a public roadway they chose a telescope. We have several "occupying" active military bases and UNITED STATES government installations that they could block access to and they chose the lowest hanging fruit of them all.
I smell .... {House Party reference}

Camp Smith got only one road in and out.
MCBH too.
and let's not forget those ICBM silos in the middle of the old pineapple fields.
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RSN172

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #618 on: August 15, 2019, 05:18:06 PM »
Eh, dey smata den dey look.  Dey no lik get arrest fo real kine or shot.  The military kine guys get gun en guarantee use em if dey trespass.  Dey know da DLNR en odda cops going make da kine catch en release arrest and no going shoot o even use pepa spray.  Dem Hawaiians smat buggas.
Happily living in Puna

ren

Re: Maunakea TMT Protests
« Reply #619 on: August 15, 2019, 05:25:41 PM »
Eh, dey smata den dey look.  Dey no lik get arrest fo real kine or shot.  The military kine guys get gun en guarantee use em if dey trespass.  Dey know da DLNR en odda cops going make da kine catch en release arrest and no going shoot o even use pepa spray.  Dem Hawaiians smat buggas.

yep
$40 red shirts
truck cruises
mopeds blocking the freeway

but they sure like the haole technology! the internet, the smart phones, the trucks. History sure does repeat itself!
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