The state is about to get a bill for the illegal buildings (non permitted) that are being built as an expansion of their school

At this point might be cheaper to helicopter all the construction goods up. 

That is a really good idea.  It is a tough climb for a vehicle to get up there.  I drove to the summit once.  They don’t allow you to drive past the visitor center unless you have an AWD or 4WD vehicle.  The visitor center is 4.5 miles below the summit.  I cannot imagine a tractor trailer carrying heavy equipment up there.  It is a steep gravel road.
And I don’t think moving all the equipment by helicopter will cost anywhere close to $3 million.

At this point might be cheaper to helicopter all the construction goods up.  Or stick it in armored vehicles with a plow on them and ignore all obstacles.

expect a laser light show from the locals

expect a laser light show from the locals

Then the Feds can get involved.  Penalties can be as severe as 5 years in a Fed pen and $250k fine.
Problem I see with a helicopter is the biggest heavy lift chopper can only lift 14.5 tons externally.  Even a D6 dozer is 18 tons.

Then the Feds can get involved.  Penalties can be as severe as 5 years in a Fed pen and $250k fine.
Problem I see with a helicopter is the biggest heavy lift chopper can only lift 14.5 tons externally.  Even a D6 dozer is 18 tons.

US Imperialism!
Colonialism!
Racists!
Trump's fault!

The state is about to get a bill for the illegal buildings (non permitted) that are being built as an expansion of their school

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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/09/04/state-not-tmt-protesters-could-face-hefty-fines-unpermitted-structure/

Those protesters need to go. This is getting way out of hand.

It is a nice building.  I am sure it did not go up in a day.  Why was it not stopped when the foundation was started?  At this point, I would like to see this go on for at least another six months.  I want to see how far the state will let this go.  One of the builders said it was for “the children.”  A safe haven for the keiki was his words.

Hey I wonder if he could donate his time to build a small house on my property. 

DHHL said it will be removed “when resources become available.”  Translation “not in the near future, possibly never.  It might be sacred you know.”

This is better than any Korean soap opera. (My apologies to any Koreans amongst us.)

Disclaimer, political correctness statement.  “I am not a racist.”

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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/09/04/state-not-tmt-protesters-could-face-hefty-fines-unpermitted-structure/

Those protesters need to go. This is getting way out of hand.

Ainokea I build where I like! 
Isn't that desecration of the land?

Disclaimer, political correctness statement.  “I am not a racist.”

Pretty sure that anyone who feels compelled to state "I am not a racist" IS, by definition, a racist.

Couple that with the fact that if you don't deny you are a racist it proves you are a racist... and... game, set, match.

Ok I change my statement to "Ainokea wat you stay tink."

Ok I change my statement to "Ainokea wat you stay tink."

Too late now, eh?

Besides we all know that anyone who opposes the racist criminals blocking the public roadway MUST be a racist. Why else would they want to suppress the oppressed?

Oh, I wen change sides.  I lik dem guys stick it to da crooked Hawaii gavament.

Why else would they want to reppress the oppressed?

Kuleana - Are you opposed to TMT based on primarily TMT issues? Such as the Mauna being sacred, or other TMT driven reasons. Or primarily based on what happened in the past and TMT is a “current events” line in the sand? 

Not that you need a reason, nor do all opposed to TMT need to ha aligned with a single reason.

First of all, as an avid fan of Star Trek, I love science.  Hence, all of the reasons for the building TMT are logical and makes perfect sense.

However, you are very perspective.  My opposition to TMT has more to do with solidarity with Hawaiians who have chosen to protest TMT as well as to those who have begun to openly display the Hawaiian National Flag in distress, both in response to all that was illegally taken away back in 1898.

First of all, as an avid fan of Star Trek, I love science.  Hence, all of the reasons for the building TMT are logical and makes perfect sense.

However, you are very perspective.  My opposition to TMT has more to do with solidarity with Hawaiians who have chosen to protest TMT as well as to those who have begun to openly display the Hawaiian National Flag in distress, both in response to all that was illegally taken away back in 1898.

Got it.  This question came from discussions that I've had with a few friends and friends of friends on TMT where I found feedback from those folks were mostly from a viewpoint similar to yours (the current events line in the sand) and not really against the TMT, at least primary issue or principle.  That view point also often seemed to be poisoned affected by many misconceptions/myths about the TMT, such as TMT needing a 500 foot deep foundation that would massively impact/scar the mountain.  Where the tsunami of emotion overwhelmed rational thought in many cases. 

Then there's the seemingly trendy aspect of the TMT protests.  Reminds me of when I lives in Seattle during the WTO riots.  Folks (probably current day antifa) would walk down Broadway Ave going to groups of people and basically say "Hey, I'm going to downtown to protest the WTO, wanna join us?" and many groups were like "dunno what WTO is, but hey! Fight the power!".  What are your thoughts on the seemingly trendy aspect of TMT protests?

A nation in distress? I look around and people are prosperous with access to housing and food. There isn't genocide and the govt. surely isn't killing or jailing people. IN fact, they are afraid of the people on Mauna Kea. They are building on sacred land. Where did all that good construction supplies and skills come from? A distressed nation?
Let's not blow things out of proportion.
Hong Kong is in distress.
Parts of Africa are in distress.
Rohingyas are in distress.
Syria is in distress.
A nation is not in distress when they can spend the weekend in truck cruises with upside down flags. Play the victim card long enough and that's all you'll be.

Then there's the seemingly trendy aspect of the TMT protests.

Wrote elsewhere how the proteckstahs and the BS had echoes of the Vietnam war protests I saw when going to Santa Monica College.

It was quite clear is was a "kool kids" thing to "do", with thought no more deep that maybe it was an easy way to score chicks.

Got it.  This question came from discussions that I've had with a few friends and friends of friends on TMT where I found feedback from those folks were mostly from a viewpoint similar to yours (the current events line in the sand) and not really against the TMT, at least primary issue or principle.  That view point also often seemed to be poisoned affected by many misconceptions/myths about the TMT, such as TMT needing a 500 foot deep foundation that would massively impact/scar the mountain.  Where the tsunami of emotion overwhelmed rational thought in many cases. 

Then there's the seemingly trendy aspect of the TMT protests.  Reminds me of when I lives in Seattle during the WTO riots.  Folks (probably current day antifa) would walk down Broadway Ave going to groups of people and basically say "Hey, I'm going to downtown to protest the WTO, wanna join us?" and many groups were like "dunno what WTO is, but hey! Fight the power!".  What are your thoughts on the seemingly trendy aspect of TMT protests?

There are a number of fake protestors on Mauna Kea.  Everyone already knows about the politicians/CEOs/entertainers as well as that segment of youth who are there out of curiosity or nothing better to do.  You also have those individuals who are there to sell t-shirts.  It is nice to see those kinds of protestors out on the mauna, but they are what they are.

A nation in distress? I look around and people are prosperous with access to housing and food. There isn't genocide and the govt. surely isn't killing or jailing people. IN fact, they are afraid of the people on Mauna Kea. They are building on sacred land. Where did all that good construction supplies and skills come from? A distressed nation?
Let's not blow things out of proportion.
Hong Kong is in distress.
Parts of Africa are in distress.
Rohingyas are in distress.
Syria is in distress.
A nation is not in distress when they can spend the weekend in truck cruises with upside down flags. Play the victim card long enough and that's all you'll be.

Hawaiians are not playing the victim card.

The nation state of Hawaii is an internationally recognized country that is being illegally occupied by the US and that is the underlying reason Hawaiians have and will continue to be angry.

Hey with free food, who can resist?  I would go there for free eats too but the distance from my home makes it not worth it.  With all the cars up there it is a long walk from where you can park to the food tent.