Hunter Biden Investigation (Read 4827 times)

drck1000

Hunter Biden Investigation
« on: September 26, 2019, 12:52:25 PM »
Newt Gingrich: Speaker Pelosi, THIS is the investigation Congress needs to do right now

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Tuesday, when Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared, “no one is above the law,” her target was President Donald Trump – but she did far more damage to former Vice President Joe Biden.

Democrats are very excited by a few words in a phone call between the President of the United States and the new, reform-oriented anti-corruption President of Ukraine. Those words asked to open the investigation and to get at the truth.

Most Americans will ignore an attack on investigating corruption as just politics.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/newt-gingrich-speaker-pelosi-investigation-congress

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However, Ukraine is not the only site of scandalous self-enrichment by Hunter Biden. China is an even bigger center of money going to the former vice president’s son – money which would not have gone to him if his name had been Hunter Smith.

Peter Schweizer has become a remarkable researcher and writer about corruption. In a May, 11, 2019 New York Post article, he wrote extensively about the Bidens and China.

The investment firm Hunter Biden operated (along with former-Secretary of State John Kerry’s stepson Chris Heinz and their family friend and operative Devon Archer) in his dealings with China was Rosemont Seneca Partners, which formed in 2009.

By 2010, Hunter Biden and Archer “were in China meeting with top Chinese officials,” Schweizer wrote. By the way, Rosemont also partnered with the Thornton Group, which is led by James Bulger (the nephew of the infamous mobster James “Whitey” Bulger).

In 2013, Hunter Biden flew to China with his dad on Air Force Two. Within two weeks, Rosemont secured what eventually grew into a $1.5 billion private equity deal with a part of the Bank of China (which is owned by the Chinese Communist Party). So, as Schweizer put it, “the Chinese government-funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president.”

Is this spin?  Is this misinformation? Is it true?  Who knows, but where there's smoke. . .

groveler

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 02:29:14 PM »
Newt Gingrich: Speaker Pelosi, THIS is the investigation Congress needs to do right now

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/newt-gingrich-speaker-pelosi-investigation-congress

Is this spin?  Is this misinformation? Is it true?  Who knows, but where there's smoke. . .
As we see in Hawaii, there is one set of rules for Democrats,
and a different set of rules for everybody else.
Since Democrats rule this state with impunity,
we see the results quicker than the mainland.
Nothing will happen to any of the Democrats.
Get used to it.
They are "special".

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 10:49:06 PM »
As I understand it there is reason to investigate both Trump and the Bidens

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 11:40:59 PM »
As I understand it there is reason to investigate both Trump and the Bidens
You could say that for all politicians. Even Obama who so many still see as the golden boy. Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Benghazi, IRS targeting, etc.

So what’s your point? Topic is investigation into Hunter Biden...

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2019, 11:54:36 PM »
Or

Senate Democrats Face Questions After Letter Resurfaces of Them Asking Ukraine to Investigate Trump in 2018

https://ijr.com/democratic-senators-ukraine-trump-probe-request/

changemyoil66

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 06:35:08 AM »
As I understand it there is reason to investigate both Trump and the Bidens
Just 1 party should be investigated. Ill let u guess which one will be done...

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astroboy

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2019, 09:12:05 PM »
old news but well said

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2019, 12:13:08 AM »
You could say that for all politicians. Even Obama who so many still see as the golden boy. Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Benghazi, IRS targeting, etc.

So what’s your point? Topic is investigation into Hunter Biden...

Certainly Biden could be independently investigated but Trump's problematic comments end up being tied to a Biden investigation. Because of that any objective serious desire to investigate would look at both otherwise it is clearly just political. If we are going to say Biden's comments were wrong and need to be investigated then we have to say the same for Trump and vice versa. We can't give one side a pass while going after the other, otherwise it clearly has nothing to do with a real investigation and upholding of justice.

To be intellectually honest we would really have to investigate both or neither. But no, the two sides only want to investigate the other guy and excuse anything their own guy did.

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2019, 12:37:09 AM »
Certainly Biden could be independently investigated but Trump's problematic comments end up being tied to a Biden investigation. Because of that any objective serious desire to investigate would look at both otherwise it is clearly just political. If we are going to say Biden's comments were wrong and need to be investigated then we have to say the same for Trump and vice versa. We can't give one side a pass while going after the other, otherwise it clearly has nothing to do with a real investigation and upholding of justice.

To be intellectually honest we would really have to investigate both or neither. But no, the two sides only want to investigate the other guy and excuse anything their own guy did.
Why do you always seem to use the pronoun “we”? 

Why does any investigation HAVE to look into both? How about investigating because there is reason and see what EVIDENCE comes out?  On their OWN merits. Not just hearsay, second hand uncorroborated statements, etc?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2019, 10:13:45 PM »
Why do you always seem to use the pronoun “we”? 

Because that's my preferred gender pronoun and you have to recognize my gender

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Why does any investigation HAVE to look into both? How about investigating because there is reason and see what EVIDENCE comes out?  On their OWN merits. Not just hearsay, second hand uncorroborated statements, etc?

Because the logic justifying investigating one also justifies investigating the other. The issue in question is fairly similar and both Biden's comments and Trump's comments reason to suspect possible illegal activity.  So I say investigate both, otherwise it is just hypocrisy.

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2019, 11:08:07 PM »
Because that's my preferred gender pronoun and you have to recognize my gender

Because the logic justifying investigating one also justifies investigating the other. The issue in question is fairly similar and both Biden's comments and Trump's comments reason to suspect possible illegal activity.  So I say investigate both, otherwise it is just hypocrisy.
Your gender is a “we”?  I know you were trying to be smart. But you use we since you are trying to give yourself a sense of relationship to the group. When you are trying to relate to your opinion and experiences. It’s plain to see and that you responded with a wisecrack like that is telling.

And the investigations are about their comments. :facepalm:

Why does an investigation into one necessarily tie into another? If the evidence leads that way, then so be it. Is Trump playing his “4D chess” and Dems took the bait?

I’m not saying an investigation into Trump isn’t warranted. I don’t care either way. One should take whistleblower allegations seriously. However, look at the evidence and credibility. Also the reported timing of who acted on what “facts” and when they were released.

Rocky

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2019, 09:01:45 AM »
Because that's my preferred gender pronoun and you have to recognize my gender

No I don't !   :closed:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
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drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2019, 10:43:06 AM »

No I don't !   :closed:

 :thumbsup:  One of our remaining freedoms to think for ourselves.

Dammit.  Going off topic, on my own thread. . .  ;D

Whaddya think about Hunter Biden?   8)

punaperson

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2019, 11:57:05 AM »
Whaddya think about Hunter Biden?   8)
Perhaps a more germane and pressing question is: Where is Hunter Biden?

Over a week since the renewed controversy, and not even a sighting, much less a peep.

I guess since he did nothing wrong he feels no need to defend his actions. On the other hand, if he did appear in public he might have a hard time showing his resume and job skills that would justify the Ukraine and Chinese money he took home. Just sayin'...

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2019, 12:31:34 PM »
Perhaps a more germane and pressing question is: Where is Hunter Biden?

Over a week since the renewed controversy, and not even a sighting, much less a peep.

I guess since he did nothing wrong he feels no need to defend his actions. On the other hand, if he did appear in public he might have a hard time showing his resume and job skills that would justify the Ukraine and Chinese money he took home. Just sayin'...
Maybe he has information on or some of this implicates the Clintons, so he is hiding out. . . (wishful thinking, but I wouldn't wish real harm on Hunter Biden)

The more I read reports of things that went down, even with liberal spin, there's more than smoke here. . .

drck1000

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2019, 12:34:46 PM »
The HPD troll is attempting to make it look like he has allies that agree with him/her/it?
It's his high level debating techniques on display.  It wasn't a serious question, but more of a "why do you do that, we see right through it". 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hunter Biden Investigation
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2019, 10:39:59 PM »
Your gender is a “we”?  I know you were trying to be smart. But you use we since you are trying to give yourself a sense of relationship to the group. When you are trying to relate to your opinion and experiences. It’s plain to see and that you responded with a wisecrack like that is telling.

And the investigations are about their comments. :facepalm:

Why does an investigation into one necessarily tie into another? If the evidence leads that way, then so be it. Is Trump playing his “4D chess” and Dems took the bait?

I’m not saying an investigation into Trump isn’t warranted. I don’t care either way. One should take whistleblower allegations seriously. However, look at the evidence and credibility. Also the reported timing of who acted on what “facts” and when they were released.

I wasn't trying to be "smart" I was trying to make a joke. But since you want to press the issue I will try to explain further.

When I said "we" I think I meant it on a couple of levels. On the most ground level I would say that by "we" I meant anyone who is trying to be objective and interested in the truth. Secondly I would say that by "we" I was referring to anyone on the side calling for an investigation into Biden for the Ukraine thing. Given the republican lean of this forum most people seem to be interested in investigating Biden, therefore when I say "we" I am referring to the users here who want to investigate Biden. So if we (2aHawaii users) are going to be honest, we should investigate both.

I hope that is sufficient.