I'm amazed at how many people are being fooled once again by the fake news.  And Trump is playing it perfect, not giving an inch unless he has to.  He's not afraid to call out bullshit when he sees it.  Watch the fake news spin this single story for a while, then like Russia and many other fake news stories, it will be  a nothing burger and they will find another topic to fool the people.

What ever happened to Epstein?

I'm amazed at how many people are being fooled once again by the fake news.  And Trump is playing it perfect, not giving an inch unless he has to.  He's not afraid to call out bullshit when he sees it.  Watch the fake news spin this single story for a while, then like Russia and many other fake news stories, it will be  a nothing burger and they will find another topic to fool the people.

What ever happened to Epstein?

The people at the prison who made Jeffrey disappear are enjoying their off-shore retirement accounts.  That's about all.

The people at the prison who made Jeffrey disappear are enjoying their off-shore retirement accounts.  That's about all.

"suicide"

The people at the prison who made Jeffrey disappear are enjoying their off-shore retirement accounts.  That's about all.

They got robbed but were lucky enough that the robber forgot to take their wallet and valuables.  And just as they were going to call 911, they decided to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of their head.  So the robber lucked out.

Who is schieffs sister married to?

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You need to do more research.

The courts have not included INFORMATION as a "thing of value."  The statutes are clear.  Campaign contributions must involve a thing of value, such as cash, property, etc.  Opposition research (aka "dirt") on one's opponent is INFORMATION.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim)

That is a decent argument for Trump to make in his defense however the main point I was making was about the focus on quid-pro-quo and how it is irrelevant if quid-pro-quo could not be determined. Not to say that quid-pro-quo doesn't matter at all, just that it doesn't matter in terms of whether he violated the criminal statute.

nothing to see here...
move along...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal

That is a decent argument for Trump to make in his defense however the main point I was making was about the focus on quid-pro-quo and how it is irrelevant if quid-pro-quo could not be determined. Not to say that quid-pro-quo doesn't matter at all, just that it doesn't matter in terms of whether he violated the criminal statute.

The guy who was actually on the other line (Ukraine pres) said there was no QPQ.  Right from the horses mouth.  But then again I guess a friend of a friend heard differently, so let's spend more time and resources investigating that. 

Now they're bringing in some gal who stopped working for Ukraine in May 2019 and saying she has info on the call.  So many stupid people out there believing what the fake news tells them.  Let's not forget the guidelines for WB's were changed in August to be more like a rubber stamp like how FISA warrants are approved.  #nuthintoseehere.

Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president

No credibility issues with this accuser, huh?

The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden,
according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner
has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White
House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the
newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."

Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, told members of Congress that the
whistleblower had a "professional tie" to a 2020 Democratic candidate. He had written earlier that while the
whistleblower's complaint was credible, he had shown "some indicia of an arguable political bias ... in favor
of a rival political candidate."

A retired CIA officer told the Washington Examiner, “From everything we know about the whistleblower
and his work in the executive branch then, there is absolutely no doubt he would have been working with
Biden when he was vice president."

As an experienced CIA official on the NSC with the deep knowledge of Ukraine that he demonstrated in his
complaint, it is probable that the whistleblower briefed Biden and likely that he accompanied him on Air Force
Two during at least one of the six visits the 2020 candidate made to the country.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal

Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president

No credibility issues with this accuser, huh?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal

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Nothing informative to add?

#focu

Nothing informative to add?

#focu

me? add?
my post was over 36 hours before yours
obviously, you have nothing to add...

The guy who was actually on the other line (Ukraine pres) said there was no QPQ.  Right from the horses mouth.  But then again I guess a friend of a friend heard differently, so let's spend more time and resources investigating that. 

Now they're bringing in some gal who stopped working for Ukraine in May 2019 and saying she has info on the call.  So many stupid people out there believing what the fake news tells them.  Let's not forget the guidelines for WB's were changed in August to be more like a rubber stamp like how FISA warrants are approved.  #nuthintoseehere.

So we should take the Ukranian president's word for it?

Lets try to apply the same level of skepticism to a claim in support of Trump as we do in a claim against Trump. Otherwise we aren't looking for the truth, we are just looking for what supports what we want to believe.

Again, the whistleblower's complaint had both primary and secondary information yet people who don't want to believe the whistleblower keep talking as if it is only secondhand.

me? add?
my post was over 36 hours before yours
obviously, you have nothing to add...

You ... being a dick.....

As a Mod, you should refrain from being a dick.

If repeat links to sources are a problem for you, you have the means to delete,  Instead, you have to troll me. 

Sad.  Nothing more to say.

   

You ... being a dick.....

As a Mod, you should refrain from being a dick.

If repeat links to sources are a problem for you, you have the means to delete,  Instead, you have to troll me. 

Sad.  Nothing more to say.

   

you can be a mod on your own forum...

You ... being a dick.....
As a Mod, you should refrain from being a dick.
If repeat links to sources are a problem for you, you have the means to delete,  Instead, you have to troll me. 
Sad.  Nothing more to say.
   

you can be a mod on your own forum...

I smell a battle...

you can be a mod on your own forum...

Is there a point to your off-topic, bickering, immature posts?

Is there a point to your off-topic, bickering, immature posts?

yes

So we should take the Ukranian president's word for it?

Lets try to apply the same level of skepticism to a claim in support of Trump as we do in a claim against Trump. Otherwise we aren't looking for the truth, we are just looking for what supports what we want to believe.

Again, the whistleblower's complaint had both primary and secondary information yet people who don't want to believe the whistleblower keep talking as if it is only secondhand.

I use multiple sources to make my own conclusion. Same sources that conuded russia was a waste of time from the start. Same sources that said a porn star is not going to impeach anyone. Same intel about the Bidens from years ago. Even this is old news to those awoke.

On the opposite spectrum, your sources stated differently. Same guys who said WMDs exist and an entire war was based on it. Same sources that found 2 passports and none other. Same sources that dont mention how ISIS was created in Syria.  The list goes on.

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