Free Eddie (Read 2849 times)

changemyoil66

Free Eddie
« on: November 05, 2019, 08:50:20 AM »
So word is Trumps going to restore Eddie Gallaghers rank back to chief.  And help out with 2 other guys who got screwed by the green weenie.  Not sure the details of the other 2, but for Eddie

The charged they got him for was posing with a dead taliban.  He was in a group photo and the only one out of 12 or so who was charged with a crime.  Witch hunt.

changemyoil66

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2019, 11:24:47 AM »
So Trump restored Eddies rank back to Chief, instead of PO2 or what ever.

Now Seal admiral has a review board set up to see if they want to take his trident from him and his 2 CO's.  Eddie put in for retirement so this is 100% retaliation and 1 of his CO's are already out.  His attorney thinks that POTUS will get involved again so Eddie can keep is trident. 

changemyoil66

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2019, 02:03:27 PM »
Review board has been cancelled after POTUS tweeted that Eddie shall keep his Trident.  Sec of Navy fired due to the handling of this situation.  He's bringing the same type of leadership that he used in The Apprentice.  Do your job or you're fired.  In a tweet from Eddie, he thanks Trump for being a leader.

Wonder if seal admiral is next.

ren

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2019, 02:26:46 PM »
Deeds Not Words

mrgaf

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2019, 06:53:17 PM »
His opinion is worthless. Both him and that foul old lady of his are the poster children for stupidly. Trump is the commander in chief, period... his and his old lady’s opinions are no more than liberal urban excrement!
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2019, 08:58:01 PM »
The only backlash would be if one SEAL is able to get the attention of the CinC and get his situation resolved, and another military member is relegated to whatever the formal system dishes out, there could be valid arguments that the President is selectively interfering in the Courts Martial system.

Regardless, the chain of command goes out the window when the system, and those running it, are determined to punish a hero over a charge many others are guilty of and never charged with, while the serious war crimes he was charged with were dropped.

Sounds like the Navy was trying to justify their actions by making sure he suffered negative results, more than likely because the case was very well publicized.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »
So word is Trumps going to restore Eddie Gallaghers rank back to chief.  And help out with 2 other guys who got screwed by the green weenie.  Not sure the details of the other 2, but for Eddie

The charged they got him for was posing with a dead taliban.  He was in a group photo and the only one out of 12 or so who was charged with a crime.  Witch hunt.

So if all 12 who were in the photo were charged then it would be fine?

You say it was a witch hunt but why would they be targeting him over everyone else? Was there some politics or because they needed their sacrificial lamb?

I agree that if you are going to charge one you have to charge all (generally speaking). I do think it is important to maintain our standard of proper prisoner handling.

changemyoil66

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 09:31:24 AM »
So if all 12 who were in the photo were charged then it would be fine?

You say it was a witch hunt but why would they be targeting him over everyone else? Was there some politics or because they needed their sacrificial lamb?

I agree that if you are going to charge one you have to charge all (generally speaking). I do think it is important to maintain our standard of proper prisoner handling.

If all 12 were punished back then, then yes it is not a witch hunt.  Keep in mind the charges for the photo were not even brought up until after he won the murder charge.  So they were looking for something trying to save face.

And 9/10 cases where someone was in a photo with a dead combatant, it's either NJP (clean toilets for a month, KP for a month, etc...) or 1 month pay.  Never is it jail time, reduction in rank, or loss of trident.  So more of a slap on the wrist.  And in many of the cases, it was a 1 on 1 photo, not a group photo.

What's more alarming is how the Navy  hacked Eddies attorneys computer, put him in isolated lock up for 8 months.  Denied him to see his family and attorney on a regular basis and computer access.  If it wasn't for his wife and her using social media, Eddie would be in jail and convicted of murder.  Why is it a witch hunt?  There is body cam video of the incident that shows him using his knife to remove the clothes of the combatant and giving first aid.  So it's not like he was set free on a loop hole, but there is proof he did no wrong.

So if someone did complain, yes it gets investigated, but after the video is seen, the investigation is over.  Most likely while he's still in the sand.  So a short few weeks investigation at most.

changemyoil66

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 09:36:41 AM »
EEF, do you want me to list a breakdown of facts on why this was  a witch hunt?  I can if you want me to, but most will be from IIRC because I don't have time to go back and research it.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Free Eddie
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 10:21:32 PM »
If all 12 were punished back then, then yes it is not a witch hunt.  Keep in mind the charges for the photo were not even brought up until after he won the murder charge.  So they were looking for something trying to save face.

While I agree this is probably true I also see that since the case made so much news that not charging him would have still looked bad. We all can see the photo so we all know he committed the violation of the US military code and then there would be questions about why they didn't charge him when everyone knew he did it.

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And 9/10 cases where someone was in a photo with a dead combatant, it's either NJP (clean toilets for a month, KP for a month, etc...) or 1 month pay.  Never is it jail time, reduction in rank, or loss of trident.  So more of a slap on the wrist.  And in many of the cases, it was a 1 on 1 photo, not a group photo.

I think that would be a fair defense. A judge generally has a bit of room about how much of a sentence they can give but they should generally be fairly consistent across the board.

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What's more alarming is how the Navy  hacked Eddies attorneys computer, put him in isolated lock up for 8 months.  Denied him to see his family and attorney on a regular basis and computer access.  If it wasn't for his wife and her using social media, Eddie would be in jail and convicted of murder.  Why is it a witch hunt?  There is body cam video of the incident that shows him using his knife to remove the clothes of the combatant and giving first aid.  So it's not like he was set free on a loop hole, but there is proof he did no wrong.

So if someone did complain, yes it gets investigated, but after the video is seen, the investigation is over.  Most likely while he's still in the sand.  So a short few weeks investigation at most.

When you said witch hunt I thought you meant something political or something like that. I hadn't heard about the Navy hacking the attorney's computer.

I thought he ended up going free because another soldier admitted to killing the enemy combatant? I didn't follow the case so I am trying to play catch up before I pass judgement on whether I agree with Trump's pardon or not.