Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Read 78214 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #200 on: January 10, 2020, 10:28:47 AM »
The very first sentence of that article: "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the House will take steps next week to sent articles of impeachment to the Senate for President Donald Trump’s Senate trial."

What does that mean "will take steps"? Does that mean it is going to happen or is she going to continue to hang on to them while she works on it? What a hag....

In her press conference, she said she will send them over once she's satisfied with the way the trial will be handled.  She also said this impeachment is different than the Clinton impeachment, and therefore those rules are not good enough for this trial.  Of course, she didn't elaborate on which rules or why they aren't good enough.

She said she expects to send over them "soon" but gave no timeframe.

In my opinion, if she tried to force McConnell to do one thing regarding the trial, whether it's to allow certain witnesses, go to court to enforce subpoenas, or even what color chairs to use, she is failing to abide by the Constitution.  The Senate has the sole power to try impeachments.  The House is overstepping their Constitutional duties and limits.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #201 on: January 10, 2020, 10:40:07 AM »
The very first sentence of that article: "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the House will take steps next week to sent articles of impeachment to the Senate for President Donald Trump’s Senate trial."

What does that mean "will take steps"? Does that mean it is going to happen or is she going to continue to hang on to them while she works on it? What a hag....
Don't speak of rk's crush like that.   :rofl:

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #202 on: January 10, 2020, 11:58:52 AM »
Don't speak of rk's crush like that.   :rofl:
They're the same age, right?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #203 on: January 10, 2020, 02:18:51 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #204 on: January 10, 2020, 09:49:18 PM »
Any bets on how many days the Senate will take to move to dismiss the impeachment?

My guess:  Pelosi will send the articles over on Friday before the 3-day holiday weekend, just to drag it out some more.

The next Tuesday, the House Managers will present their piddly little case.  At that time, I expect the Republicans to make a motion to dismiss based on lack of supporting evidence and direct testimony.

If that doesn't happen, the I expect all the main players to be summoned to testify: Schiff, Nadler, the WB/Informant, the IG, the lawyer for the WB, and the Bidens.  I believe there was never a real whistleblower.  Schiff recruited an informant and had him file an IG complaint to make it appear as if he/she tried to follow the prescribed process.  The IG is being looked at for changing the "direct knowledge" requirement to "hearsay" and back-dating the complaint.  It'll all fall apart at that point.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #205 on: January 12, 2020, 05:52:32 AM »
Any bets on how many days the Senate will take to move to dismiss the impeachment?

My guess:  Pelosi will send the articles over on Friday before the 3-day holiday weekend, just to drag it out some more.

The next Tuesday, the House Managers will present their piddly little case.  At that time, I expect the Republicans to make a motion to dismiss based on lack of supporting evidence and direct testimony.

If that doesn't happen, the I expect all the main players to be summoned to testify: Schiff, Nadler, the WB/Informant, the IG, the lawyer for the WB, and the Bidens.  I believe there was never a real whistleblower.  Schiff recruited an informant and had him file an IG complaint to make it appear as if he/she tried to follow the prescribed process.  The IG is being looked at for changing the "direct knowledge" requirement to "hearsay" and back-dating the complaint.  It'll all fall apart at that point.
Your timeline might be pretty accurate. It may also be that the trial starts and the analysis of the articles is presented and without any witnesses called they would vote to acquit. I think the president deserves an acquittal at the very least. Dismissal would be quick and easy but I think the Republicans still respect the office of the president even if they don’t like Trump.

Right now Devin Nunes is on Sunday Mornings with Maria Bartiromo. He is saying that if witnesses are called they should call the ICIG in order to get to the bottom of all of speculation around the WB/Informant and the change in the form requirements right before the ICIG released their analysis of the complaint. I think we will find some corruption there. Nunes has been 100% right on every fact he has discussed regarding this coup attempt.
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Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #206 on: January 12, 2020, 06:05:23 AM »
Kevin McCarthy was on Sunday Mornings with Maria Bartiromo this morning as well. His conspiracy theory #TinFoilMoment is that the DNC still is conspiring to keep Bernie from getting the nomination. It is more than coincidental that the senate trial, if it goes longer than a week, that Bernie will be stuck in the Senate during the Iowa caucus (2/3) and possibly the New Hampshire primary (2/11). It could even go as long as a month which would take Bernie out of the Nevada caucus (2/22). This is his premise as to why Pelosi is taking so long to send the articles over to the senate. The timing is very suspect according to McCarthy.

Could it be the DNC is still trying to rig the nominations for their candidate, AGAIN? Could it be that the DNC is so out of touch with reality that they think that Biden is a stronger candidate than Bernie? WOW just WOW
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #207 on: January 12, 2020, 09:47:34 AM »
Would be funny as soon as she hands it over, they already go the denial letter in the other hand.

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groveler

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #208 on: January 12, 2020, 10:05:24 AM »
Kevin McCarthy was on Sunday Mornings with Maria Bartiromo this morning as well. His conspiracy theory #TinFoilMoment is that the DNC still is conspiring to keep Bernie from getting the nomination. It is more than coincidental that the senate trial, if it goes longer than a week, that Bernie will be stuck in the Senate during the Iowa caucus (2/3) and possibly the New Hampshire primary (2/11). It could even go as long as a month which would take Bernie out of the Nevada caucus (2/22). This is his premise as to why Pelosi is taking so long to send the articles over to the senate. The timing is very suspect according to McCarthy.

Could it be the DNC is still trying to rig the nominations for their candidate, AGAIN? Could it be that the DNC is so out of touch with reality that they think that Biden is a stronger candidate than Bernie? WOW just WOW
It is not so much Biden, watch who becomes the VP.  That
is who they want as president.  Biden,  if elected won't last long.
He will quit due to health reasons.
I bet that he will select a woman to be VP.

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #209 on: January 12, 2020, 10:16:49 AM »
It is not so much Biden, watch who becomes the VP.  That
is who they want as president.  Biden,  if elected won't last long.
He will quit due to health reasons.
I bet that he will select a woman to be VP.
Ok, that’s interesting. Any guesses as to which woman he will choose, assuming he gets the nomination? Supposedly, Pelosi agreed to only one term as speaker, she could end her career as president if Joe picks her and wins then quits. Or worse, Hillary!!! Kamala Harris? Tulsi? I don’t think Warren is a good match for Joe.
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ren

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #210 on: January 12, 2020, 10:18:13 AM »
I dont know why the Dems take so long for what ever reason as we have less than 12 years left on this planet. Why arent they building a modern Noahs Ark?
Deeds Not Words

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #211 on: January 12, 2020, 10:20:02 AM »
I dont know why the Dems take so long for what ever reason as we have less than 12 years left on this planet. Why arent they building a modern Noahs Ark?
It’s Trump’s fault.
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ren

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #212 on: January 12, 2020, 10:26:09 AM »
It’s Trump’s fault.
Or according to certain economists the US will meet its demise anyways. Id like to know when.
After reading Trumps book, The Art of the Deal he doesnt have confidence in economists as he never met a wealthy one
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #213 on: January 12, 2020, 11:38:50 AM »
I dont know why the Dems take so long for what ever reason as we have less than 12 years left on this planet. Why arent they building a modern Noahs Ark?

If you want to see TDS in all its glory, we should push for Trump to be convicted and removed in the impeachment trial.

Then, when Pence becomes the President, and likely the 2020 Presidential candidate, the mob will turn on him, too, as if he's even worse than "Literally Hitler Orange Man".

If a Dem wins the White House, it'll be whiplash-inducing the speed at which the "12 years to doomsday" clock suddenly stops.  Climate change will still be an issue, but even without following the "Green New Socialist Deal", the Earth will have been saved from a 12 year expiration date.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #214 on: January 12, 2020, 01:57:41 PM »
Trump has done more his first year in office than the past few presidents in 2 terms. Dem gets ellected, it will revert back to feel good policies and actions that do nothing. Market will drop and TDSers will celebrate rise in unemployment.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #215 on: January 14, 2020, 10:11:19 AM »
The latest Democrat talking point is "If the Senate votes to dismiss impeachment, they will be involved in a cover-up."

Seriously?  The cover-up started when Schiff refused to call the so-called whistle blower to testify in the House inquiry.  What did Schiff know, and when did he know it?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #216 on: January 15, 2020, 02:43:19 PM »
I predicted the articles of impeachment would be formally presented to the Senate Friday, just prior to the 3-day holiday weekend.

According to the news, the articles were walked over today by the House.  The Senate will have the House managers present the articles to the Senate in a formal setting tomorrow.

I missed it by a day.   :geekdanc:

Since the Senate will likely be on a short day Friday to leave for the holiday weekend, the Senate won't be taking up the matter until Tuesday.  This week, the presiding judge Chief Justice Roberts will be sworn in as well as all 100 Senator jurors.

The Senate has 30 days to take up impeachment and begin the process of holding the trial.  Once they start, they can't take up any other matter.  Senators are barred from speaking inside the hearing and outside.  All questions from the Senators must be submitted to the Chief Justice in writing. 

Pelosi just handed Biden a less competitive Iowa caucus in 2 1/2 weeks, since Bernie and Pocahontas are stuck in the impeachment trial.

Pelosi said this impeachment will be a permanent stain on the Trump presidency regardless of the trial outcome.

That's really all this was about since it started 3 years ago.  She isn't interested in the damage this can do to the nation.  She's only interested in political power and who gets to use it.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #217 on: January 16, 2020, 08:58:46 AM »
I predicted the articles of impeachment would be formally presented to the Senate Friday, just prior to the 3-day holiday weekend.

According to the news, the articles were walked over today by the House.  The Senate will have the House managers present the articles to the Senate in a formal setting tomorrow.

I missed it by a day.   :geekdanc:

Since the Senate will likely be on a short day Friday to leave for the holiday weekend, the Senate won't be taking up the matter until Tuesday.  This week, the presiding judge Chief Justice Roberts will be sworn in as well as all 100 Senator jurors.

The Senate has 30 days to take up impeachment and begin the process of holding the trial.  Once they start, they can't take up any other matter.  Senators are barred from speaking inside the hearing and outside.  All questions from the Senators must be submitted to the Chief Justice in writing. 

Pelosi just handed Biden a less competitive Iowa caucus in 2 1/2 weeks, since Bernie and Pocahontas are stuck in the impeachment trial.

Pelosi said this impeachment will be a permanent stain on the Trump presidency regardless of the trial outcome.

That's really all this was about since it started 3 years ago.  She isn't interested in the damage this can do to the nation.  She's only interested in political power and who gets to use it.
Pretty much was their goal from the day after the election.  The Rep from GA covered much of the "evidence" on that on Monday I think in his testimony (or whatever that was) in the House.  That along with the obvious hypocrisy of an "emergency that MUST be addressed NOW" to "oh, we have to be sure to take our time and make sure we got this right" after they rushed things to "finish" the impeachment articles.

Some views based on logic and rational thought (like many here).  Others based on irrational emotional "must do something" responses (like a couple here). 

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #218 on: January 16, 2020, 10:03:31 AM »
Pelosi stated previously that it's sad to have to do this.  But when signing her part, she had a pretty good smile going.  Like when pierce Morgan fired his first AR, or Feinstein was meeting with Trump to talk about gun control.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #219 on: January 16, 2020, 03:39:10 PM »
Pelosi handed out commemorative souvenir pens to the Dems watching her sign the articles of impeachment.

Did any REPUBLICANS get a pen?  No?  That kind of tells us all we need to know about this "serious, solemn, and prayerful" impeachment as Pelosi tries to repeatedly characterize it.  A purely partisan fraud.

Lots of laughs, smiles and holding up the pens like it's a rock concert.

Democrat leaders are disgusting people.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw