we are defenseless and helpless (Read 7923 times)

ren

we are defenseless and helpless
« on: November 26, 2019, 08:59:36 AM »
https://www.kitv.com/story/41371409/caught-on-camera-burglary-victims-request-the-publics-help-to-identify-suspect

Look at what he's got on his hip...
and despite the images police won't arrest him
Deeds Not Words

mrgaf

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 12:12:53 PM »
HPD=fuckin idiots....they can all go to hell!
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stangzilla

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 12:44:09 PM »
That's in my neighborhood too

groveler

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 03:07:46 PM »
It is pretty well established that your life is meaningless in a public place.
Hawaii law.
You can just comply and hope a cop will get there in time, or you can
die, or you can become a criminal yourself.
Everybody has to decide.
I have a lawyer on speed dial.
This is Hawaii.  The Democrat party paradise.

Platinum808

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2019, 03:22:30 PM »
To bad we cant booby trap these fuckers like home alone or Vietnam some pungee sticks with shit on them!
Oh ignorant youth, the world is not a joyous place. The time has come for you to dispense with the frivolous pleasures of childhood and get down to honest toil until you are sixty-five. Then and only then can you relax and collect your social security and live happily until the time of your death!

-Hunter S. Thompson

ren

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2019, 04:25:02 PM »
lil bit off topic but Steve Alm the judge that gives HOPE to criminals is running for City Prosecutor.
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2019, 07:58:22 PM »
https://www.kitv.com/story/41371409/caught-on-camera-burglary-victims-request-the-publics-help-to-identify-suspect

Look at what he's got on his hip...
and despite the images police won't arrest him

Police have to find someone who can identify the male in the video, someone who knows/met the guy personally.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2019, 10:26:12 PM »
Police have to find someone who can identify the male in the video, someone who knows/met the guy personally.

Oh, so now hearsay isn't okay?

If someone saw this guy at Walmart, based on nothing other than the video, are you saying they have to KNOW HIM PERSONALLY before calling in a tip?

OMFG!   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2019, 10:38:49 PM »
Police have to find someone who can identify the male in the video, someone who knows/met the guy personally.

are they waiting for the red flag law to kick in Jan 1?
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 01:06:55 PM »
reading about all this crime around this time of the year - it seems that criminals are getting bolder and more violent. I'm tired of our local leaders to tell us to comply. It's like telling us to OBEY THEM - either criminals or our local Democrats.
We need to drain our swamp. We need leaders that will empower US. Not have more feel good laws that strip away our rights and leave us helpless while the political elite enjoy their own tax payer funded security.
I'm afraid we will be like Cali :'( :grrr:
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2019, 04:17:05 PM »
reading about all this crime around this time of the year - it seems that criminals are getting bolder and more violent. I'm tired of our local leaders to tell us to comply. It's like telling us to OBEY THEM - either criminals or our local Democrats.
We need to drain our swamp. We need leaders that will empower US. Not have more feel good laws that strip away our rights and leave us helpless while the political elite enjoy their own tax payer funded security.
I'm afraid we will be like Cali :'( :grrr:
"I'm afraid we will be like Cali"
Hawaii already is and in many ways worse.
I grew up in So. Ca.  I've been in Hawaii almost 20 years.
So I can compare Avocados to Avocados.
Until you obliterate the Democrat party in Hawaii
you may as well plan for the worst and go "Galt",
practice Passive- Aggression and read up on 4GW.
Aloha.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2019, 06:42:37 PM »
Listening to KHON news on 830AM tonight.  HPD wants the public to know that crime on Oahu is not on the rise even though there have been more high profile cases in the news.

HOWEVER, HPD also said what's different is the increase in firearm use ... a 20% increase they say.  They gave some lame psycho-babblle explanation of how much more desperate criminals are that they are using firearms.   :wtf:

I wonder if "desperation" is the same as "distressed?"

https://www.khon2.com/news/hpd-increase-in-crimes-involving-firearms/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2019, 07:26:50 PM »
Listening to KHON news on 830AM tonight.  HPD wants the public to know that crime on Oahu is not on the rise even though there have been more high profile cases in the news.

HOWEVER, HPD also said what's different is the increase in firearm use ... a 20% increase they say.  They gave some lame psycho-babblle explanation of how much more desperate criminals are that they are using firearms.   :wtf:

I wonder if "desperation" is the same as "distressed?"

https://www.khon2.com/news/hpd-increase-in-crimes-involving-firearms/

it's an excuse to build a rallying cry for more gun control laws...criminals won't be affected...gee I wonder why....we will...and more defenseless and compliant we will be to criminals and lawmakers
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2019, 07:54:14 PM »
it's an excuse to build a rallying cry for more gun control laws...criminals won't be affected...gee I wonder why....we will...and more defenseless and compliant we will be to criminals and lawmakers

Reading between the lines, the HPD comments tell me that a crime will automatically become "high profile" anytime a firearm is involved.  Not because the crime deserves more public awareness, but because the media and politicians need these stories to drive their gun control narratives.

If crime hasn't increased, yet more crimes are high profile simply based on "GUN!!!", it has nothing to do with public safety.  it's purely political and driven by the media's need to attract click$$.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2019, 10:05:36 PM »
Oh, so now hearsay isn't okay?

If someone saw this guy at Walmart, based on nothing other than the video, are you saying they have to KNOW HIM PERSONALLY before calling in a tip?

OMFG!   :wacko:


You sure love straw man arguments.

When you show a genuine interest in the answer I will be happy to explain it to you but I am not going tango in your sarcastic BS.

eyeeatingfish

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2019, 10:07:26 PM »
are they waiting for the red flag law to kick in Jan 1?

What does the red flag have to do with rules on making identification of suspects?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2019, 12:37:39 AM »

You sure love straw man arguments.

When you show a genuine interest in the answer I will be happy to explain it to you but I am not going tango in your sarcastic BS.

Because you know your comment was total BS.

I win.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2019, 12:39:40 AM »
What does the red flag have to do with rules on making identification of suspects?

About as much as "someone who knows/met the guy personally" has to do with it.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2019, 09:17:32 PM »
Because you know your comment was total BS.

I win.

Funny how when you are wrong you just claim to be right instead of admitting you don't know what you are talking about.

eyeeatingfish

Re: we are defenseless and helpless
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2019, 09:19:05 PM »
HPD=fuckin idiots....they can all go to hell!

If you're so smart what would you do differently? I am sure you are much smarter than their detectives.