New Colt Pythons! (Read 37769 times)

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2020, 12:10:29 PM »
:rofl:

It’s like reading the comments on HNN. There are actually some that give me hope for future of 2a. Then there are those hundreds of goobers.

Back to topic, the more I look into these, the more I actually want one as a shooter.
I need to fondle one myself before I buy. But I’m in agreement with you and Stang on this one. After I move I need to save my my pennies and buy one. For me this is a “Must have”.
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2020, 12:17:35 PM »
I need to fondle one myself before I buy. But I’m in agreement with you and Stang on this one. After I move I need to save my my pennies and buy one. For me this is a “Must have”.
I won’t be buying a gun any time soon. Or I shouldn’t buy anything any time soon. I’ll give it some time, read/watch reviews, and so on. Should be at least 6+ months to shake all of that out.

The outsourcing aspect of the revolver does concern me though.

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2020, 12:54:11 PM »
I won’t be buying a gun any time soon. Or I shouldn’t buy anything any time soon. I’ll give it some time, read/watch reviews, and so on. Should be at least 6+ months to shake all of that out.

The outsourcing aspect of the revolver does concern me though.
I saw those posts about the manufacture being outsourced. But I saw as many also saying that they recently took a tour of the Colt factory and saw them being made there. So who is right? I doubt they will sell that well if they are outsourced. Not a “real Colt”. 🤔 At the price they are asking it would seem that there is a lot of hand finish work going into these. Or they are over pricing them. But the signature of the original is the highly polished finish under the bluing giving the beautiful finish we see. Plus the hand finished trigger work. So the new ones better be as good or there will be a lot disappointed people griping on the Internet.

With the expense of moving this year I won’t have the money for at least a year I think. But if you buy before you see quality is good I would buy a set of range rods from Brownells so you can make sure all chambers line up properly with the barrel. This is a problem that sometimes leaves the factory unchecked. Fit and finish as well as lockup can be checked by you before you buy. There are lots of good articles on buying a used revolver that are 100% applicable to new revolvers.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/alignment-tools/range-rods/revolver-range-rods-prod655.aspx
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2020, 01:14:31 PM »
I saw those posts about the manufacture being outsourced. But I saw as many also saying that they recently took a tour of the Colt factory and saw them being made there. So who is right? I doubt they will sell that well if they are outsourced. Not a “real Colt”. 🤔 At the price they are asking it would seem that there is a lot of hand finish work going into these. Or they are over pricing them. But the signature of the original is the highly polished finish under the bluing giving the beautiful finish we see. Plus the hand finished trigger work. So the new ones better be as good or there will be a lot disappointed people griping on the Internet.

With the expense of moving this year I won’t have the money for at least a year I think. But if you buy before you see quality is good I would buy a set of range rods from Brownells so you can make sure all chambers line up properly with the barrel. This is a problem that sometimes leaves the factory unchecked. Fit and finish as well as lockup can be checked by you before you buy. There are lots of good articles on buying a used revolver that are 100% applicable to new revolvers.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/alignment-tools/range-rods/revolver-range-rods-prod655.aspx
Yeah. Who’s to know what’s true. He usually seems to be a good source of info, but I’ve also seen where he’s speculated (very confidently of course) and has been wrong.

I might have to get one of those rods anyways for my revolvers anyways.

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2020, 01:23:22 PM »
Yeah. Who’s to know what’s true. He usually seems to be a good source of info, but I’ve also seen where he’s speculated (very confidently of course) and has been wrong.

I might have to get one of those rods anyways for my revolvers anyways.
I’d let you borrow my set but they are packed away somewhere and I don’t remember which box they are in.  :wave:
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2020, 05:15:49 PM »
Looks like the Colt day at Gunsite will be on American Rifleman TV this coming Weds in The Outdoor Channel.

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2020, 06:41:13 PM »
Looks like the Colt day at Gunsite will be on American Rifleman TV this coming Weds in The Outdoor Channel.
I see that. Already have it recording but I just checked and it looks like the “New Colt” will be reviewed. I’ll be watching as soon as I get home from work.
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macsak

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2020, 07:44:03 PM »
I’d let you borrow my set but they are packed away somewhere and I don’t remember which box they are in.  :wave:

i'd rather not know what drck is going to do with inspector's rod...

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2020, 07:45:31 PM »
i'd rather not know what drck is going to do with inspector's rod...
Head(s)
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aieahound

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2020, 09:08:56 PM »
i'd rather not know what drck is going to do with inspector's rod...
Head(s)

STOP !
No further comment.
Actually I had all kinds of further comments but I deleted them all   ;D
Pretty soon Inspector is going to call his rod a python...
« Last Edit: January 04, 2020, 09:17:28 PM by aieahound »

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2020, 06:09:52 AM »
...Pretty soon Inspector is going to call his rod a python...
Nawwwwww, it’s bigger than a Python.  :shake: :shake: :shake:
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stangzilla

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2020, 03:14:34 PM »
Check out the comments on Mrgunsngear FB page on the new Python. Seems like a lot of interest, but a lot of internet macho asshattery.

Looks like Mrgunsngear doesnt like the new python either
The cobra trigger is also 7-8lbs DA, 3-4lbs SA. Maybe it's the same trigger. Maybe the cobra is outsourced too, if it is it's still a very good revolver. I expect to pay more for a Colt Python bc it has the name, that's how it goes. You want a Shelby GT500, or COPO Camaro, or Challenger Hellcat? You are going to pay more than the normal car. Some on the FB post say "just get a GP100 or 686, it's better and cheaper" they dont know if it's better or not bc they haven't shot the Python yet. And a GP100 or 686 no matter how good it is, they are not a Colt Python. To me it's pretty easy, if you dont like the new Python, dont get one. Why would anyone buy a $4k custom 1911 when you can get a Glock or SIG, they're better and cheaper. Same thing.

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2020, 04:58:12 PM »
Looks like Mrgunsngear doesnt like the new python either
The cobra trigger is also 7-8lbs DA, 3-4lbs SA. Maybe it's the same trigger. Maybe the cobra is outsourced too, if it is it's still a very good revolver. I expect to pay more for a Colt Python bc it has the name, that's how it goes. You want a Shelby GT500, or COPO Camaro, or Challenger Hellcat? You are going to pay more than the normal car. Some on the FB post say "just get a GP100 or 686, it's better and cheaper" they dont know if it's better or not bc they haven't shot the Python yet. And a GP100 or 686 no matter how good it is, they are not a Colt Python. To me it's pretty easy, if you dont like the new Python, dont get one. Why would anyone buy a $4k custom 1911 when you can get a Glock or SIG, they're better and cheaper. Same thing.
A stock revolver trigger that is 7-8 pounds DA and 3 pounds SA is very good for a factory firearm. Assuming it is a crisp trigger let off. Anything lighter should not be used for SD and target only. Which is why a factory will not provide a lighter trigger under most circumstances. I’m not sure what they don’t like about the new Python? Are they complaining about the price? While I think it is a little high it is not out of the realm if it is as good as the original. If they are not putting a lot of hand work into the revolver and charging this high price then they are ripping off the public. That is why you need to see, fondle and stroke one before you blow your load on one.  :rofl:  Let’s see what the gun press says about it.

You know I am a Smith guy. And I know you are a Ruger guy. We have our preferences and the reason there are different brands is because everyone has their preference. There is nothing better nor worse between Ruger and Smith revolvers. They both have their pluses and minuses. The same will be said about the Colt. If these Pythons don’t sell well due to price, if the trigger is not at least as good as the originals, if they don’t have a high level of fit and finish, if they are not terribly accurate, if they are outsourced, they probably won’t sell for long after the first year or two. Let’s face it, any Ruger or Smith can be made to shoot and like an original Python. Maybe better. It’s a Colt, a Python, the mystique that makes it what it is. All of this remains to be seen. But to pre judge the gun before they get their hands on one is ridiculous.

Here is how I intend to handle this for myself. I have always had a lifelong dream to own a Python before I am too old to enjoy it. If all the gun writers review it and it turns out to not be highly polished, or if fit and finish is lacking, or if the trigger is not as good as the original, or if it is not superbly accurate, or if it is outsourced, I’ll keep saving and buy an original instead. But if it turns out to be as good as the original there will be one in my safe within a year. One stipulation is I don’t buy a gun without seeing and touching it first.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

stangzilla

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2020, 06:19:10 PM »
A stock revolver trigger that is 7-8 pounds DA and 3 pounds SA is very good for a factory firearm. Assuming it is a crisp trigger let off. Anything lighter should not be used for SD and target only. Which is why a factory will not provide a lighter trigger under most circumstances. I’m not sure what they don’t like about the new Python? Are they complaining about the price? While I think it is a little high it is not out of the realm if it is as good as the original. If they are not putting a lot of hand work into the revolver and charging this high price then they are ripping off the public. That is why you need to see, fondle and stroke one before you blow your load on one.  :rofl:  Let’s see what the gun press says about it.

You know I am a Smith guy. And I know you are a Ruger guy. We have our preferences and the reason there are different brands is because everyone has their preference. There is nothing better nor worse between Ruger and Smith revolvers. They both have their pluses and minuses. The same will be said about the Colt. If these Pythons don’t sell well due to price, if the trigger is not at least as good as the originals, if they don’t have a high level of fit and finish, if they are not terribly accurate, if they are outsourced, they probably won’t sell for long after the first year or two. Let’s face it, any Ruger or Smith can be made to shoot and like an original Python. Maybe better. It’s a Colt, a Python, the mystique that makes it what it is. All of this remains to be seen. But to pre judge the gun before they get their hands on one is ridiculous.

Here is how I intend to handle this for myself. I have always had a lifelong dream to own a Python before I am too old to enjoy it. If all the gun writers review it and it turns out to not be highly polished, or if fit and finish is lacking, or if the trigger is not as good as the original, or if it is not superbly accurate, or if it is outsourced, I’ll keep saving and buy an original instead. But if it turns out to be as good as the original there will be one in my safe within a year. One stipulation is I don’t buy a gun without seeing and touching it first.

I hear ya. I agree. If it's not that great, I'd rather get a Dan Wesson 357. Cant go wrong with a Dan Wesson 357.

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2020, 07:25:18 PM »
I hear ya. I agree. If it's not that great, I'd rather get a Dan Wesson 357. Cant go wrong with a Dan Wesson 357.
With interchangeable barrels!!
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2020, 07:33:05 PM »
Looks like Mrgunsngear doesnt like the new python either
The cobra trigger is also 7-8lbs DA, 3-4lbs SA. Maybe it's the same trigger. Maybe the cobra is outsourced too, if it is it's still a very good revolver. I expect to pay more for a Colt Python bc it has the name, that's how it goes. You want a Shelby GT500, or COPO Camaro, or Challenger Hellcat? You are going to pay more than the normal car. Some on the FB post say "just get a GP100 or 686, it's better and cheaper" they dont know if it's better or not bc they haven't shot the Python yet. And a GP100 or 686 no matter how good it is, they are not a Colt Python. To me it's pretty easy, if you dont like the new Python, dont get one. Why would anyone buy a $4k custom 1911 when you can get a Glock or SIG, they're better and cheaper. Same thing.
I actually didn’t read his comments. Haha

Regarding outsourcing, as long as the end product is quality, that’s all that matters to me. Like any thing guns, there’s both Colt hate and “just as good as” crowd. To me, I like to try and see for myself. While I trust feedback from knowledgeable folks, always “trust but verify”.

drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2020, 07:34:59 PM »
A stock revolver trigger that is 7-8 pounds DA and 3 pounds SA is very good for a factory firearm. Assuming it is a crisp trigger let off. Anything lighter should not be used for SD and target only. Which is why a factory will not provide a lighter trigger under most circumstances. I’m not sure what they don’t like about the new Python? Are they complaining about the price? While I think it is a little high it is not out of the realm if it is as good as the original. If they are not putting a lot of hand work into the revolver and charging this high price then they are ripping off the public. That is why you need to see, fondle and stroke one before you blow your load on one.  :rofl:  Let’s see what the gun press says about it.

You know I am a Smith guy. And I know you are a Ruger guy. We have our preferences and the reason there are different brands is because everyone has their preference. There is nothing better nor worse between Ruger and Smith revolvers. They both have their pluses and minuses. The same will be said about the Colt. If these Pythons don’t sell well due to price, if the trigger is not at least as good as the originals, if they don’t have a high level of fit and finish, if they are not terribly accurate, if they are outsourced, they probably won’t sell for long after the first year or two. Let’s face it, any Ruger or Smith can be made to shoot and like an original Python. Maybe better. It’s a Colt, a Python, the mystique that makes it what it is. All of this remains to be seen. But to pre judge the gun before they get their hands on one is ridiculous.

Here is how I intend to handle this for myself. I have always had a lifelong dream to own a Python before I am too old to enjoy it. If all the gun writers review it and it turns out to not be highly polished, or if fit and finish is lacking, or if the trigger is not as good as the original, or if it is not superbly accurate, or if it is outsourced, I’ll keep saving and buy an original instead. But if it turns out to be as good as the original there will be one in my safe within a year. One stipulation is I don’t buy a gun without seeing and touching it first.
I like them all. Smith, Ruger, Colt, etc  ;D

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2020, 07:43:59 PM »
I like them all. Smith, Ruger, Colt, etc  ;D
Slut!  :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2020, 08:02:44 PM »
Slut!  :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
I don’t discriminate.  ;D 

macsak

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2020, 09:21:20 PM »
I don’t discriminate.  ;D

that's what he said...