You might want to do research on the history of Okinawa and not just depend on what the Governor of Okinawa and the media state. In many cases, they don’t really have much of a choice for many reasons.

In many cases, the people of Okinawa actually asked to move the troops from on area to another, so it’s not like the US is building more bases as opposed to replacing in different areas. Then there’s also the program to move (most of) the Marines to Guam.

You would do well to get FACTS instead of turning this to fit your narrative. And YES, I have first hand knowledge of what I spoke of above.

And hope you Merry Christmas! Take a break and chill my man.

I do not doubt and greatly respect your first hand experience.

My post regarding to Okinawa was not meant to be the Bible with respect to the relationship between Okinawa and the US military.  It is also a good diplomatic gesture by the US to redeploy its marines to US held, instead of foreign territory.

However, I also have first hand accounts from many Okinawan nationals who don't like the US military on their soil and hate the fact Japan wants US military assets stationed in Okinawa rather than Japan.  The underlying reason for both Okinawans and Japan with respect to this issue, of where the US bases should be stationed, being they both do not want to be in harms way should a conflict that involves the US arise.

Only if you hold the mistaken belief that "Democrats, Liberals, and Progressives" is synonymous with the government.

Well, take a look around, such people with believes such as theirs's are and will forever will be part of the US government from now on.



You need to learn that the PEOPLE in government are not in office forever, with the exception of Supreme Court Justices.  Maybe you see the difference between criticizing a PRESIDENT versus suggesting the US, as a nation, is evil.

Based on your interpretation, tell that to the many Americans who proport and make blanket statements that North Korea, Iran, Russia, and China are all evil regimes.



I think you know the difference, but it's easier to troll when you jumble up the concepts.  Kind of like talking about illegal immigration and purposefully omitting "illegal" to reframe the argument.

You could be easily guilty of the same thing.   

You’re talking to Okinawans. Many don’t consider themselves Japanese. Their history and relationship to “Japan” is long and one with much hate. Who took over who, etc. Okinawa is part of Japan and there are many bases elsewhere in Japan. Is Okinawa treated like a bastard stepchild? Yeah, I can see it. But that’s their thing.

Then try talking to the thousands who are employed by the US Gov’t or businesses depends on the military to survive. They are reassured by relatives for “Okinawan pride” mindset, but quietly will tell you that they support the US military in Okinawa. I’m not saying one is right, but there’s always many sides and not always the public one.

There is a huge problem with a thread that says "The USA is great/prove me wrong". It is a sophist trap, because if someone dares to bring up a point that contradicts the premise then everyone else can accuse them of saying that the USA is terrible (or whatever the opposite of great is). This thread is a jingoistic circle jerk on whoever is silly enough to want to stand in the middle and have hot loads of bloviation rain down upon them.

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America sucks so bad...

Providing for the common defense does not mean establishing military bases around the World.

Are you defining US borders as being located outside of the continental US?

So Kuleana, I’m curious. You say that the US is not the greatest country in the world. And you said that China will overtake the US eventually. But which country, in your opinion, is currently the greatest country in the world? And what exactly makes it the greatest country in the world? I’m curious. 

So Kuleana, I’m curious. You say that the US is not the greatest country in the world. And you said that China will overtake the US eventually. But which country, in your opinion, is currently the greatest country in the world? And what exactly makes it the greatest country in the world? I’m curious. 

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Singapore has a higher debt-to-GDP ratio than the US (based on stats thru Dec 2018).

Singapore:  112.20%  (previous year: 111%)

US:  106.10%  (previous year:  105%)

FYI.

Good to know.

Personally, for now their nation is a much safer place to live, no drugs, no illegal immigration, good education, and no global wars to be worried about.

According to Singapore Statutes Online (2015), the first-time penalty for the selling of gum can be as high as $100,000 or a prison sentence
of up to two years. Penalties are subject to rise with each conviction, but certain chewing gums that have medical benefits will be allowed.

Sounds like paradise!!

I have no problem with their laws.

Some appear ethnocentrically excessive, but they are effective in maintain good public order.  Their use of corporal punishment and zero tolerance policy on drugs is something other countries should think about incorporating.

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