Armed citizens
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/one-dead-two-wounded-after-shooting-reported-at-white-settlement-church/2283225/

Self defense will never happen here
in Hawaii,
Only cops can return fire here
and they are 10-20 minutes away.
Our police and Politicians think we
are more dangerous than nutcases
that shoot up churches, schools, bars,
and company offices.
The real problem isn't guns or
nutcases, it is the Democrat party.
Aloha.

How many armed citizens in hawaii have turned into mass shooters, murderers, armed robbers, road rage shooters, killed their spouse, shot someone by accident, opened fire in public, or even committed any kind of felony or crime whatsoever?

Zero
So armed citizens in hawaii are 100% safe people. Nothing to worry about. That's the facts. 

Anyone who says differently is speaking from fear, not facts

How many armed citizens in hawaii have turned into mass shooters, murderers, armed robbers, road rage shooters, killed their spouse, shot someone by accident, opened fire in public, or even committed any kind of felony or crime whatsoever?

Zero
So armed citizens in hawaii are 100% safe people. Nothing to worry about. That's the facts. 

Anyone who says differently is speaking from fear, not facts

By "citizen," do you include citizens with badges?

Because a guy named Deedy -- a man with a badge and a gun -- has had his life ruined for committing what the state has charged as murder.

How many armed citizens in hawaii have turned into mass shooters, murderers, armed robbers, road rage shooters, killed their spouse, shot someone by accident, opened fire in public, or even committed any kind of felony or crime whatsoever?

Zero
So armed citizens in hawaii are 100% safe people. Nothing to worry about. That's the facts. 

Anyone who says differently is speaking from fear, not facts

Wasn't there a guy who worked at Xerox on Ohau that killed a few of his fellow workers?
How about the cop on the BI that chased his wife down and killed her, this was in Waikola village? 
I'm sure I can find a few more.  I don't care about your life, if you don't.
I'm willing to risk that my fellow gun owners are responsible.
I'm very sure the Hawaii Democrat party is not trustworthy.
They run the government and the cops.  That is proof enough,
we need concealed carry or open carry guns for our personal
protection.
The video of the Texas church shooting may be disturbing. I'll
post it if requested, 911 would not have worked.
HPD would do what they do best, write reports.

there are at least a few churches locally that have armed security...

Why would the guy that got killed try to draw his weapon when the gunman brandished the shotgun? Wouldn’t you get down ,draw your weapon then proceed?

Why would the guy that got killed try to draw his weapon when the gunman brandished the shotgun? Wouldn’t you get down ,draw your weapon then proceed?

i'm fairly certain that all strategic planning goes out the window once someone pulls a shotgun on you...

The gunman was shot by a civilian as he left the church.

“He won’t be doing that again...”

There are posts on this thread I could respond to.
But I won’t. ( snowflapp no need to respond)

Does anyone realize that this State is run by Democrats (like 98%) and this is a public forum and by alienating all the Democrats we’re just digging a hole?

We can stand on a Republican Soap Box but we can also beat our heads against a wall.

This event is a perfect example to take to our Democrat reps on January 30th for our rally.

Just my opinion.

There are posts on this thread I could respond to.
But I won’t. ( snowflapp no need to respond)

Does anyone realize that this State is run by Democrats (like 98%) and this is a public forum and by alienating all the Democrats we’re just digging a hole?

We can stand on a Republican Soap Box but we can also beat our heads against a wall.

This is a perfect example to take to our Democrat reps on January 30th for our rally.

Just my opinion.

That's called "passive-aggressive behavior."

Just my diagnosis.

Recognizing Your Own Passive-Aggressive Behavior

- Do you sometimes use sarcasm to avoid engaging in meaningful conversations?

 

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-passive-aggressive-behavior-2795481

( snowflapp no need to respond)

My bad folks. I knew this was coming no matter what.
Apparently he can’t read.       (snowflapp dance)
 

Does anyone realize that this State is run by Democrats (like 98%) and this is a public forum and by alienating all the Democrats we’re just digging a hole?

We can stand on a Republican Soap Box but we can also beat our heads against a wall.

This event is a perfect example to take to our Democrat reps on January 30th for our rally.

Just my opinion.

https://concealednation.org/2019/12/at-least-4-armed-churchgoers-are-seen-on-video-following-shooting-one-victim-possibly-armed-as-well/

I was out all day and didn’t see the videos when they came up. Fireclean’s IG has a video of That the description says CCWer taking down the shooter.

It was eye opening.
My daughter asked me this evening if i saw the video.
She said that’s exactly what I’ve been talking about, as an armed citizen stops the threat in 1 shot and five more were ready to go.
Proud Papa as she is pretty fully anti-gun.

Does anyone realize that this State is run by Democrats (like 98%) and this is a public forum and by alienating all the Democrats we’re just digging a hole?

One could also argue that by being anti-gun and passing all these gun control laws with the final solution being confiscation the the Democrats started all of this by alienating us first? Just a thought.

Being that the Democrats have a super majority here in this state, and that we no longer have the numbers to vote them out, I am not sure how what we say here in this forum is in anyway making matters worse. And at the same time, considering they don’t have to listen to us any more, I doubt there is anything we can say to make things better.

We can stand on a Republican Soap Box but we can also beat our heads against a wall.

Speak for yourself. Who here is a Republican? Just giving you a hard time, Hound. 

I gave up on the Republican Party even before the first Bush got elected. I consider myself a conservative and I am a registered independent. The Republican Party here in Hawaii has let everyone down as well. The Tea Party here is weak. Maybe if there was some way for the Republican Party to coordinate with all the so-called conservative groups here on island and then organize them into a fairly large force, I would consider registering as a Republican. I have not heard of the Hawaii Republican Party reaching out to the shooting community here. Nor have I heard of them reaching out to the Tea Party here. We are not that hard to find. There are so many fractured groups here that if we could organize everyone together we might stand a chance. I see this as being the Republican Party’s job.

This event is a perfect example to take to our Democrat reps on January 30th for our rally.

Just my opinion.

I am going to try and get the day off for this event. Tho I am not sure I will be able to. I used up most of my time off taking this week off between x-mas and New Years. No promises, but I will try.

It was eye opening.
My daughter asked me this evening if i saw the video.
She said that’s exactly what I’ve been talking about, as an armed citizen stops the threat in 1 shot and five more were ready to go.
Proud Papa as she is pretty fully anti-gun.

Sometimes it takes an eye opening event to show the way.  No matter how many stats are given, it takes just 1 thing to help show the way.

I knew a guy who was very anti 2a.  His friend was that realtor who was brutally murdered in the North Shore and daughter tied up.  So bad they told her husband not to come inside to ID her.  He bought an AR shortly after that and was man enough to admit he had been wrong about guns.

My parents are pretty anti 2a.  But my mom is coming around because she used to work in downtown and sees the crack heads when going on the bus to and from work.  She hears the stories of coworkers who do the same.  My father is still in his secure fairy tale life.  He drives everywhere and doesn't have to interact with crackheads or criminals.

Well said Inspector.

One could also argue that by being anti-gun and passing all these gun control laws with the final solution being confiscation the the Democrats started all of this by alienating us first? Just a thought.

I was suggesting this forum alienates the pro-2A Democrats which I’m guessing there are a crap load of ‘em in this State judging by whose in office and the number of gun owners.

I’m also always Leary of the number of guests to members viewing at any given moment. (Borrowed some of Changemyoil’s tinfoil)

There are so many fractured groups here that if we could organize everyone together we might stand a chance.

We’re like the Hawaiians. (Hope Kuleana doesn’t see this or this thread is going off the rails)

Well said Inspector.


I’m also always Leary of the number of guests to members viewing at any given moment. (Borrowed some of Changemyoil’s tinfoil)

No worries, I get plenty.  Costco had sale.

My bad folks. I knew this was coming no matter what.
Apparently he can’t read.       (snowflapp dance)
 

Apparently you're in denial or simply ignorant of your own behavior.

You posted a troll comment.

If you need help identifying your troll posts, PM me your intended comments beforehand, and I'll review them for any trolling content.

You're welcome.   

Tag. You’re It.
I got the last word. (How long will this go on? Stay tuned I guess)
  ( snowflapp dance)

P.S. thanks for the tinfoil CMO. It’s very soothing.

 

Sometimes it takes an eye opening event to show the way.  No matter how many stats are given, it takes just 1 thing to help show the way.

I knew a guy who was very anti 2a.  His friend was that realtor who was brutally murdered in the North Shore and daughter tied up.  So bad they told her husband not to come inside to ID her.  He bought an AR shortly after that and was man enough to admit he had been wrong about guns.

My parents are pretty anti 2a.  But my mom is coming around because she used to work in downtown and sees the crack heads when going on the bus to and from work.  She hears the stories of coworkers who do the same.  My father is still in his secure fairy tale life.  He drives everywhere and doesn't have to interact with crackheads or criminals.