This may not be the appropriate place to ask,but there is an abundance of info out there. My son, and accomplished shooter and a very responsible fiream guy, needs to get his own
permit to acquire. He and I have shot together for years. The range guys used to look the other way when at seven or eight he fired the 45. I own the guns but he will want to some day.
There were some counseling  issues years ago for ADD, a learning disability. He was a minor at that time.

Who out there can tell me if an issue as such as this being a minor carries over to adulthood?
ADD, Attention deficit disorder is a diagnosable problem, and counselling is part of the treatment.

Can he still get a permit and what is the procedure.
The boy is definitely a tax paying working member of society now.

Aloha

This may not be the appropriate place to ask,but there is an abundance of info out there. My son, and accomplished shooter and a very responsible fiream guy, needs to get his own
permit to acquire. He and I have shot together for years. The range guys used to look the other way when at seven or eight he fired the 45. I own the guns but he will want to some day.
There were some counseling  issues years ago for ADD, a learning disability. He was a minor at that time.

Who out there can tell me if an issue as such as this being a minor carries over to adulthood?
ADD, Attention deficit disorder is a diagnosable problem, and counselling is part of the treatment.

Can he still get a permit and what is the procedure.
The boy is definitely a tax paying working member of society now.

Aloha

Not exactly the same but I know a guy that was diagnosed as depressed after his parents died.

He went to buy a gun and was denied.

He had to go to the doctor and get a "clean bill of health".

He did that and now owns guns.

ADD would be grounds for disqulaification under HRS 134-7 (c)(3):

(3)  Is or has been diagnosed as having a significant behavioral, emotional, or mental disorders as defined by the most current diagnostic manual of the American Psychiatric Association or for treatment for organic brain syndromes; shall own, possess, or control any firearm or ammunition therefor, unless the person has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence, mental disease, disorder, or defect.

Personally, I think ADD is diagnosed way too often and in most cases just a B.S. call by a doctor (who doesn't have a clue). Just have your son fill out an application and (if denied) get cleared by his current doctor. Once that's on file, it'll never be an issue again.

I had an ADD diagnosis around intermediate school, actually ADHD I think, even took some medicine for a year or so. That being said I made it into the department so I cannot see any reason that they would deny a permit because of ADD. Though I suppose in severe cases of ADD or ADHD where heavy medication is needed they might find reason to deny.

When it comes to reporting on the actual form in most cases they can only know what you put down. If you listed only a basic medical doctor but left out a psychologist and did not report ADD then they would never know. This is of course dishonest and I would not suggest it but I find it a silly thing to ask because if someone did have something bad in their past they probably would see the question and just lie and HPD would be none the wiser.

In our day, there was no ADD, we were diagnosed as "kolohe"

ADD is not generally a significant behavior disorder; honestly -- it's none of their business, and he was a minor.

ADD is not generally a significant behavior disorder; honestly -- it's none of their business, and he was a minor.

I couldn't agree more, but that is not what the law reads: "Is or has been diagnosed..." Sure they'd only know what you disclose, but like eyeeatingfish, I believe one should answer all the questions on the form honestly. Suggesting someone do otherwise is simply irresponsible (not saying you are FT, but it's close). Bottom line: ADHD is a diagnosable significant mental/behavioral disorder by the APA. If he was treated and "cured" or found to have been misdiagnosed...it's better to disclose and address than have it turn up during a background check.

FYI: I've been diagnosed twice for PTSD and have NEVER been denied a permit to acquire. I simply disclosed it and was cleared by my physician. Simple and honest.

In our day, there was no ADD, we were diagnosed as "kolohe"

Yep. ADHD is a B.S. diagnosis. Doctor says your child is hyperactive, impuslive, and doesn't pay attention? Well that's called being a kid.

I don't understand & not trying to be a hardass, but just apply.  He's either getting denied or not.  If he's denied he's not owning the firearms.  If he's not then he's good to go.

BTW I personally wouldn't think that ADD is a deniable condition.

 :shaka:Thanx Guys
All good input.
My thoughts were that the boy needs to apply and either be denied, or not. Answer all the questions honestly  and go through the appeal process if there is an issue.
I don't feel that ADD should be grounds for denial. As with eyeeating fish it was around intermediate school times and seem to have cured itself, if in fact it was any more than Kolohe.
Now I gotta get him off his dead butt and go do it. Nothing hyper active about him now.
Somebody has to have my collection when I'm gone

Aloha

:shaka:Thanx Guys
All good input.
My thoughts were that the boy needs to apply and either be denied, or not. Answer all the questions honestly  and go through the appeal process if there is an issue.
I don't feel that ADD should be grounds for denial. As with eyeeating fish it was around intermediate school times and seem to have cured itself, if in fact it was any more than Kolohe.
Now I gotta get him off his dead butt and go do it. Nothing hyper active about him now.
Somebody has to have my collection when I'm gone

Aloha

Wanna adopt me?

Key word in that law is "significant"

Have the boy answer "No" to the mental disorder question if he feels the old ADD diagnosis was insignificant. Then let the process play out.

Of course, I have no idea what the law considers "significant." Having a hard time paying attention in class doesn't seem to have any bearing on how safe someone would be we firearms. But that's just my (non-lawyer) opinion.

Key word in that law is "significant"

Have the boy answer "No" to the mental disorder question if he feels the old ADD diagnosis was insignificant. Then let the process play out.

Of course, I have no idea what the law considers "significant." Having a hard time paying attention in class doesn't seem to have any bearing on how safe someone would be we firearms. But that's just my (non-lawyer) opinion.

Some people have "ADD" so bad they can't function without their medication, others get distracted by say a person walking past the door during class time.   If he is not currently taking medication for the disease, it was not significant - the answer would be "no".

Some people have "ADD" so bad they can't function without their medication, others get distracted by say a person walking past the door during class time.   If he is not currently taking medication for the disease, it was not significant - the answer would be "no".

I must have ADD, every time a beautiful woman walks by, I'm distracted.