Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns (Read 16284 times)

Inspector

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2020, 07:27:56 AM »
It is always entertaining to watch an amateur know-it-all lecture IT software and hardware professionals on how computers work.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Yeah, he tried to do that with me a while back. We got into a disagreement about how software works and how it is written. Considering I was a software developer/script writer and software/hardware tester for 12 years, his ignorance and reluctance to admit he really doesn’t know what he is talking about in this subject is quite amazing to me. By trying to rationalize things he knows little about, he makes himself look foolish and quite ignorant about facts he claims to know about.

 :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2020, 09:46:30 AM »
Yeah, he tried to do that with me a while back. We got into a disagreement about how software works and how it is written. Considering I was a software developer/script writer and software/hardware tester for 12 years, his ignorance and reluctance to admit he really doesn’t know what he is talking about in this subject is quite amazing to me. By trying to rationalize things he knows little about, he makes himself look foolish and quite ignorant about facts he claims to know about.

 :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Many people I meet have never been taught the basic lessons in life.

One that comes to mind is:

It's not an embarrassment to admit you don't know something.  It is an embarrassment to pretend you know something, because those who do know will expose you.

Learn to say, "I don't know".  You can promise to find out later, but don't fall for the premise that you're not measuring up by having gaps in your knowledge.

This especially applies to hard sciences like computer programming and engineering.  The field of knowledge is so broad and ever-changing, one person can't possibly learn or remember it all.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2020, 09:50:10 AM »
Many people I meet have never been taught the basic lessons in life.

One that comes to mind is:

It's not an embarrassment to admit you don't know something.  It is an embarrassment to pretend you know something, because those who do know will expose you.

Learn to say, "I don't know".  You can promise to find out later, but don't fall for the premise that you're not measuring up by having gaps in your knowledge.

This especially applies to hard sciences like computer programming and engineering.  The field of knowledge is so broad and ever-changing, one person can't possibly learn or remember it all.

In this day and age of information ubiquity, there is little reason NOT to know. The internet has helped me in a lot of ways. Youtube helped me get through some telecomm topics. The simplest concept that helped me get through is that machines talk to each other based on ideas of how we humans communicate to each other. There are different languages, protocols, mediums and with all that there are nuances that need to be understood. OSI model? Why is the Air Force in this class?
I was that perceived Asian kid who brought the grade curve down so I needed to catch up a lot. I had academic legs of a midget in a marathon full of tree trunk runners.

Information is beamed out everywhere...just gotta know how to grab it
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2020, 10:03:02 AM »
In this day and age of information ubiquity, there is little reason NOT to know. The internet has helped me in a lot of ways. Youtube helped me get through some telecomm topics. The simplest concept that helped me get through is that machines talk to each other based on ideas of how we humans communicate to each other. There are different languages, protocols, mediums and with all that there are nuances that need to be understood. OSI model? Why is the Air Force in this class?
I was that perceived Asian kid who brought the grade curve down so I needed to catch up a lot. I had academic legs of a midget in a marathon full of tree trunk runners.

Information is beamed out everywhere...just gotta know how to grab it

Yep.  It helps to be curious.  You need to be motivated to seek out that which interests you and take time to assimilate it.

Waiting for someone to teach you about 3D printer technology on a gun rights forum is the worst kind of lazy.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2020, 10:32:19 AM »
It is always entertaining to watch an amateur know-it-all lecture IT software and hardware professionals on how computers work.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
I have a lot of fun when you guys go into computers.
I'm not going to compare brain pans. I'll just say you
guys are "users" not designers.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2020, 10:33:01 AM »
I have a lot of fun when you guys go into computers.
I'm not going to compare brain pans. I'll just say you
guys are "users" not designers.
TRON

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2020, 10:41:52 AM »
I have a lot of fun when you guys go into computers.
I'm not going to compare brain pans. I'll just say you
guys are "users" not designers.

Don't lump me into that category.

My forte is integration, "problem solving" and design.

There are systems I've built from COTS and GNU applications still in use after 2 decades which can't be replaced with new products without degrading capabilities and reliability.

Just saying ...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2020, 11:06:44 AM »
TRON
TROFF
Beginners All Symbolic Instruction Code, an interpreter language.
Slow execution.
 

groveler

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2020, 11:16:13 AM »
Don't lump me into that category.

My forte is integration, "problem solving" and design.

There are systems I've built from COTS and GNU applications still in use after 2 decades which can't be replaced with new products without degrading capabilities and reliability.

Just saying ...
Wasn't trying to insult anybody.
I designed prototype hardware and real time software
in the Aerospace industry.  Some of my stuff flew
on Commercial
aircraft( NOT 737 MAX).
I can even fix 1930's tube stuff.
Do you know what B+ is?  It
hurts if you ground it out with your
finger.
Or VHDL?
Anybody that has a grasp of simple Logic, Math, and
people skills can go a long way in the "High Tech" industry.


ren

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2020, 11:19:26 AM »
I found a silo in Waipahu Mauka

Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2020, 11:22:23 AM »
Wasn't trying to insult anybody.
I designed prototype hardware and real time software
in the Aerospace industry.  Some of my stuff flew
on Commercial
aircraft( NOT 737 MAX).
I can even fix 1930's tube stuff.
Do you know what B+ is?  It
hurts if you ground it out with your
finger.
Or VHDL?
Anybody that has a grasp of simple Logic, Math, and
people skills can go a long way in the "High Tech" industry.

B+?  Is that your GPA?

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2020, 11:23:41 AM »
When being condescending, it usually helps to have the info correct.
Was some liberal trying to explain engineering?

LOL!!

robtmc

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2020, 11:27:15 AM »
I suppose so. It seems better than an additive 3d printer. Blocks pf plastic would be like billets versus thermally fused, layered material. SLA printing might produce a better end item. I never had any experience with those printers,
We had parts made by stereo lithography 20+ years ago to do fit and sanity checks.   As I recall, the laser hardened resin was extremely brittle.   We would need to thread bosses in it and to often break the damn part.

The SLA stuff we got was not good for anything beyond looking and feeling what the future part was like.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 11:48:01 AM by robtmc »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2020, 11:51:44 AM »

Do you know what B+ is?  It
hurts if you ground it out with your
finger.

Not familiar with B+, but I've heard of B (predecessor to C Programming Language). 

The "ground" reference tells me it's hardware.  I know there's a Raspberry 3 version called B+.  That's as much as I could try to guess.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2020, 12:01:41 PM »
I have a lot of fun when you guys go into computers.
I'm not going to compare brain pans. I'll just say you
guys are "users" not designers.
I worked on portions of code for enterprise security protocol translation software for Cisco routers, I worked as a software and hardware test engineer as well as a DVT engineer for DSL, enterprise SAN routers, and other SAN products. Sadly pretty much all the technology I worked from 1996-2008 is completely obsolete.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2020, 12:02:09 PM »
Wasn't trying to insult anybody.
I designed prototype hardware and real time software
in the Aerospace industry.  Some of my stuff flew
on Commercial
aircraft( NOT 737 MAX).
I can even fix 1930's tube stuff.
Do you know what B+ is?  It
hurts if you ground it out with your
finger.
Or VHDL?
Anybody that has a grasp of simple Logic, Math, and
people skills can go a long way in the "High Tech" industry.
Tubes
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2020, 12:04:29 PM »
TROFF
Beginners All Symbolic Instruction Code, an interpreter language.
Slow execution.
I took FORTRAN in college. A small step up from punch cards 😝

drck1000

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2020, 12:05:41 PM »
It is always entertaining to watch an amateur know-it-all lecture IT software and hardware professionals on how computers work.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
:rofl:

drck1000

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2020, 12:06:15 PM »
*cough* mansplain *cough*
Would’ve been mansplaining if the info was correct.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2020, 12:06:46 PM »
Was some liberal trying to explain engineering?

LOL!!
Trying,  it failing...