Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns (Read 16280 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #80 on: January 28, 2020, 09:35:31 PM »
so you're saying if I have ALL the parts it's a violation, but if I only have one part it's not?
"Any combination of parts from which a firearm having no serial number may be readily assembled; provided that the parts do not have the capacity to function as a firearm unless assembled."
and are you telling me all your fellow officers are going to interpret it that way?

I don't know how police will interpret it, I am just telling you what the bill says as it is written. If the bill passes it could say something significantly different as well.

The bill also mentions "for the purpose of" so the police and prosecutors would have to prove that you possessed the parts in order to build a firearm with no serial number. So if you have an AR15 plus an extra trigger group then it wouldn't be a violation.

This does effectively ban unserialized 80% lowers though. The possible loophole in the language is that it has to be for the purpose of building a firearm. So if that 80% lower were actually just made to be finished to be an airsoft gun then you might be able to slide by.

ren

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #81 on: January 28, 2020, 10:05:13 PM »
The questions remains: How many 3d printed guns were used in crimes?
I would say more crimes are committed with knives but how many knife bills are in the Leg?
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6716J

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2020, 07:17:18 AM »
The questions remains: How many 3d printed guns were used in crimes?
I would say more crimes are committed with knives but how many knife bills are in the Leg?

Isn't just one too many? We need to ban 3D guns to find out what they really are. It's for the children.
:sarc:

So far that we know of, it's just 1. The Ala Moana parking garage incident. But as we all know, it's not really about curbing violence, it's about restricting the rights of the citizenry and keeping them down
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

macsak

Re: Hawaii lawsuit against 3d printed guns
« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2020, 07:36:33 AM »
Isn't just one too many? We need to ban 3D guns to find out what they really are. It's for the children.
:sarc:

So far that we know of, it's just 1. The Ala Moana parking garage incident. But as we all know, it's not really about curbing violence, it's about restricting the rights of the citizenry and keeping them down

the car dealership shooting and ala moana were both allegedly 80%s
no 3D...