Coronavirus from China (Read 138087 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2020, 11:28:26 AM »
Daisy cutter style (Outbreak movie)

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drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2020, 11:31:13 AM »
The Mayor of Wuhan has resigned and stated that 5 million out of 11 million residence already left the city before they could set up the barriers.
Entire homes already left? 😳

 :rofl:

macsak

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2020, 11:59:47 AM »
Daisy cutter style (Outbreak movie)

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I don't think that meme is about daisy cutters...

Inspector

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2020, 12:05:16 PM »
Heard reports on the radio something about the Chinese "central gov't" is blaming (or at least at odds) with the local gov't for downplaying the initial reports, concerns, etc.  That now many surrounding areas are totally blocked off from the ground-zero area.  That sort of reports made me wonder when the "central gov't" will order firebombing of the ground-zero area, ala Outbreak movie.
I heard reports this morning that this strain is worse than the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 because it spreads easier for whatever the reason. They did not state that it was more deadly or not. I don't think it will be much of an issue here although it could be YUGE in China. Actually it some ways it already is. Quarantine measures are much better these days as well communications. We cut off flights to China early on and brought out all of our citizens from the area. Whoever made those command decisions did the right thing and did it early. Almost as if they care about the American people...

For those of you who don't know the history of the Spanish Flu pandemic. Over a 2 year period it affected about one third of the world's population or about 500 million people. And about 50 million worldwide died from it. Usually only the very young, the very old and the sickly are mostly affected by viruses like this.

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drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2020, 12:32:02 PM »
I heard reports this morning that this strain is worse than the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 because it spreads easier for whatever the reason. They did not state that it was more deadly or not. I don't think it will be much of an issue here although it could be YUGE in China. Actually it some ways it already is. Quarantine measures are much better these days as well communications. We cut off flights to China early on and brought out all of our citizens from the area. Whoever made those command decisions did the right thing and did it early. Almost as if they care about the American people...

For those of you who don't know the history of the Spanish Flu pandemic. Over a 2 year period it affected about one third of the world's population or about 500 million people. And about 50 million worldwide died from it. Usually only the very young, the very old and the sickly are mostly affected by viruses like this.
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan).  That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening.  Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios. 

macsak

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2020, 12:43:27 PM »
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan).  That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening.  Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.

I just watched a youtube video that said they would be quarantined for a week in Alaska...

changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2020, 12:48:00 PM »
Entire homes already left? 😳

 :rofl:

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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2020, 12:52:33 PM »
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan).  That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening.  Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.

Was this the flight that was diverted to the Air Force Base?

Since China has no 1a, very little info is getting out via the internet or other sources.  So it's hard to get more updates.  Some stuff is getting out, but I'm sure by now their government pinged their IP address.

astroboy

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2020, 02:04:22 PM »
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation

Inspector

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2020, 02:09:50 PM »
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan).  That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening.  Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.
What you said is exactly why I doubt we will ever see another pandemic outbreak like the Spanish Flu. We are fairly prepared for something like this. The Chinese are reacting quickly but took their time before they started reacting. They waited to quarantine the area and worse they waited to report the outbreak. Therefore the problem will be larger than it had to be. It could devastate a third world country. Hell, it could devastate China because they waited so long to start doing something about it.

I heard on the radio today that the number the Chinese are reporting dead more than doubled since yesterday. And that they felt the Chinese were waaaaaaay under reporting the actual number of infected and the number who have died. They also said the Chinese might have taken way too long to quarantine a large enough area. But that will have to wait to be seen. If they start seeing infections outside the quarantined areas you know they waited too long.
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2020, 02:51:28 PM »
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation



I don't speak Chinese, so the subtitles could be wrong.  He might be talking about how he is the best Xbox player in the country.

All jokes aside, hope everyone here prepares for if SHTF.  Not only food and water, but like he mentioned, medicine and other daily essentials if you can't leave your home.  What do you have to do if outside is no habitable?  Sit tight and go off of your supplies and cross your fingers.

drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2020, 03:38:03 PM »
What you said is exactly why I doubt we will ever see another pandemic outbreak like the Spanish Flu. We are fairly prepared for something like this. The Chinese are reacting quickly but took their time before they started reacting. They waited to quarantine the area and worse they waited to report the outbreak. Therefore the problem will be larger than it had to be. It could devastate a third world country. Hell, it could devastate China because they waited so long to start doing something about it.

I heard on the radio today that the number the Chinese are reporting dead more than doubled since yesterday. And that they felt the Chinese were waaaaaaay under reporting the actual number of infected and the number who have died. They also said the Chinese might have taken way too long to quarantine a large enough area. But that will have to wait to be seen. If they start seeing infections outside the quarantined areas you know they waited too long.
Sometimes I wonder if there are folks with similar "what if type" minds that write these SHTF books and movies (or maybe same people).  Then there are shows like Criminal Minds, Law Abiding Citizen, etc where I think to myself "what kind of an asshole would think up things like that".  But hopefully we have enough in the US who do contingency planning.  We have a group that does that at work, but for more focused group and scenarios. 

The part about devastating a smaller country probably isn't very far fetched.  With the areas around Wuhan being pretty rural and poor (at least reports I heard mentioned that), with access to healthcare and stuff like quarantine responses being pretty much non-existent, I would envision things spreading pretty wide in that area with incubation period of days to a week (or more). 

Inspector

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2020, 07:39:19 PM »
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation


If true it is quite sad. What I took away from this video is he kept saying he is not brainwashed. He knows how bad the government is. How bad he is treated. And how he would love to live in democracy and freedom. Very very sad.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2020, 10:35:30 PM »
Latest casualty of the virus:



The number of Google searches for "Corona Beer Virus" is multiplying faster than the actual cases of the disease.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/01/30/coronavirus-is-not-the-corona-beer-virus-what-people-are-googling/#1ed6c7a65884
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

new guy

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2020, 11:00:53 PM »
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Kuleana

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2020, 11:49:29 PM »
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation



He seemed very authentic, until he started criticizing his country and asking overseas Chinese to spread the word of how bad the response of China's government is to the current epidemic.  How will demonizing China help those who are suffering in Wuhan?

Why not ask overseas Chinese to send medical supplies to Wuhan instead?

No way of telling if he is truly from Wuhan or some ethnic Chinese stooge who has been paid-off to demonize China.

Inspector

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2020, 12:36:41 AM »
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2020, 07:51:00 AM »
Person-to-person transmission of coronavirus reported in US, CDC says

https://www.foxnews.com/health/person-to-person-transmission-coronavirus-reported-in-us-cdc
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2020, 11:23:04 AM »
He seemed very authentic, until he started criticizing his country and asking overseas Chinese to spread the word of how bad the response of China's government is to the current epidemic.  How will demonizing China help those who are suffering in Wuhan?

Why not ask overseas Chinese to send medical supplies to Wuhan instead?

No way of telling if he is truly from Wuhan or some ethnic Chinese stooge who has been paid-off to demonize China.

I have a better question.  Why is he DEMONIZING China?  Isn't that what you're doing to the USA on a regular basis?

I see him as CRITICIZING China.  That's a more honest characterization. 

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Demonize:

to try to make someone or a group of people seem as if they are evil:

The Nazis used racist propaganda in an attempt to demonize the Jews.

He's not saying they are evil based on no evidence.  He is saying there are conditions there that indicate the gov't, includng local gov't, is not being honest nor reacting to the crisis in a rational or serious manner.  Gas stations are shut down, all trains are halted, hospitals can't provide needed services, emergency numbers are not answering due to the volume of calls, etc, etc.

Demonize?  Hardly.

You think China can't produce or obtain supplies?  That they need to rely on overseas donations?  Please!  Most of what the world buys is marked "Made in China."   :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2020, 12:42:52 PM »
I have a better question.  Why is he DEMONIZING China?  Isn't that what you're doing to the USA on a regular basis?

I see him as CRITICIZING China.  That's a more honest characterization. 

He's not saying they are evil based on no evidence.  He is saying there are conditions there that indicate the gov't, includng local gov't, is not being honest nor reacting to the crisis in a rational or serious manner.  Gas stations are shut down, all trains are halted, hospitals can't provide needed services, emergency numbers are not answering due to the volume of calls, etc, etc.

Demonize?  Hardly.

You think China can't produce or obtain supplies?  That they need to rely on overseas donations?  Please!  Most of what the world buys is marked "Made in China."   :rofl:

Just because many things are made in China, does not mean the government can simply grab what has been produced for export.  They have to produce what they need on-top what is contractually promised to their foreign customers.

With that online poster, there is no evidence that he is even living in China or a Chinese national.  With all the anti-Chinese rhetoric circulating online, it would be no surprise that he is just one of those people adding to the evil-China propaganda.