FlappMauiDarmokMoosed is the Hahvahd guy in good will hunting.
Awesome at regurgitation but limited in thought.

His googlefu is unmatched though.
And great at deflection and attack.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone.
Just making an observation.

And the Coronavirus / COVID 19 sucks.
But I guess at least we’re living ( hopefully) through a historical event.
If we make it, our kids can tell their kids “ I lived through that shit” because it will be in the history books.

Stay safe everybody.

The difference between me and K is that I do not think America is inherently evil nor do I believe we should all be punished for the sins of our ruling class. My concern is that, as is happening now, the predictable fallout from a failing-empire crisis will give the derp state free reign to destroy what is left of our rights. The toilet paper hoarders will beg for some 1984/BNW/Handmaid Tale rules to "protect us" and effectively end the experiment with the greatest constitution ever written (as far as I know).

I'm no longer interested in engaging Kuleana.  I may change my mind when someone uncovers an ICBM silo in Kunia.  Until then ...


     

Victory.

Long live free thinking!

Viva la Revolution!

 

Not really trying to engage him. I just like to point out that there are others here that are right when he is wrong! 

You are definitely entitled to your opinion.   

BTW, I know you just retired and surely hope you are healthy because the American health system is very overtaxed at the moment, due to all overspending on the military, albeit indirectly resulting in the deaths of thousands of American citizens due to Covid-19.

But, if I am not mistaken, this situation is acceptable to you, as I once recall you saying something to the effect that you rather have the US spend more of its budget to the military over silly and wasteful domestic items such as health care.

I wonder if your views have changed...

"The difference between me and K is that I do not think America is inherently evil nor do I believe we should all be punished for the sins of our ruling class.

HB, I really need to reclarify something you posted above.

America, China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, etc. or any country for that matter is not inherently good or bad.  Rather, it is the level of tyranny that its leadership displays to its own citizenry or to its international neighbors that one can make a determination of whether that nation is good or bad.  In addition, empires and nation states on the decline also tend to be heavily corrupt and resort to miscreant foreign policies in order to divert its citizens attention away from doing the things they need to do to reclaim and clean-up their nation, so it can be sincerely respected and not feared amongst its peers.

As to your point of whether do I believe everyone should be punished for the sins for the America's ruling class; no I do not.  However, I do believe everyone should be educated and reminded of those sins, if those sins continue to persist to the present.



"My concern is that, as is happening now, the predictable fallout from a failing-empire crisis will give the derp state free reign to destroy what is left of our rights. The toilet paper hoarders will beg for some 1984/BNW/Handmaid Tale rules to "protect us" and effectively end the experiment with the greatest constitution ever written (as far as I know)."

Totally agree.

Although justified due to the current pandemic crisis, we now see becoming the new norm: curfews, concentration camps for the infected, the return of the draft this time for medical professionals, and the national guard on the streets.  If this will be the new norm in the future, you can bet that martial law and the confiscation of firearms for our protection will be around the corner, if and, I pray not, when this country falls into an economic depression resulting in widespread civil unrest and riots, potentially as soon during the third quarter of this year.

My guess is we will see MAJOR crumbling in another two months, and it gets progressively worse, and then the SHTF thing you mention will happen NEXT year.

Could be wrong. Could be this year.

My guess is we will see MAJOR crumbling in another two months, and it gets progressively worse, and then the SHTF thing you mention will happen NEXT year.

Could be wrong. Could be this year.

I hope I am 1,000,000% wrong and that there will be no economic depression and the multitrillion dollars that will be spent in the next couple of months will result into a situation of some normalcy by the third or fourth quarter of this year.

But, I will tell you that all of my economic colleagues have more or less said the same thing.  If the nations of the World do not get control of Covid-19 in their respective countries by the end of Summer, the second wave of the virus will make a global comeback on the onset of the next flu season; hence, throwing everyone back into the same economic situation we are in right now.

If that happens, the whole World goes from a bad economic whatevers to an even worse one with hyperinflation and martial law declared everywhere.  Suffice-to-say, American gun owners will have to gut check their beliefs of the 2nd Amendment because we all know what comes next, if we reach that point.

The silos are not in kunia. Everyone knows its under ala moana. Why u think theyre closed? Rotate out the old icbms.

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I don’t see it as an overnight event but more of a slow erosion of our rights for increasingly ridiculous reasons that capitalize on the cascade of crises. Pretty much just a continuation of what has happened so far. The boiling frog approach has worked really well so far. Why mess with a good thing?

Also most viruses of the past do their damage in a period of months, not years.

I don’t see it as an overnight event but more of a slow erosion of our rights for increasingly ridiculous reasons that capitalize on the cascade of crises. Pretty much just a continuation of what has happened so far. The boiling frog approach has worked really well so far. Why mess with a good thing?

Also most viruses of the past do their damage in a period of months, not years.

Once again, I am sincerely hoping you are right and I am wrong in that the transformation of the US into a true fascist police state will not happen when we wake up in the morning.

However, we are living in an unprecedented time where global economic history is in the making.  Hence, the powers elite and ultra-wealthy know they have the populace in their grasp with the upcoming economic turmoil and may want to push the button first before the economic situation gets so bad that radical revolutionary forces begin to emerge leading to a potential Second American Revolution or Civil War II that finally throws them out of power.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion.   

BTW, I know you just retired and surely hope you are healthy because the American health system is very overtaxed at the moment, due to all overspending on the military, albeit indirectly resulting in the deaths of thousands of American citizens due to Covid-19.

But, if I am not mistaken, this situation is acceptable to you, as I once recall you saying something to the effect that you rather have the US spend more of its budget to the military over silly and wasteful domestic items such as health care.

I wonder if your views have changed...

Oh Kuleana,

You took my bait hook line and sinker. I trolled you and was totally upfront about it and you still decided to try and engage me. And this coming from the masterful trolling mind that started that military spending thread that eventually got closed down. This is meant as a total compliment, BTW. I purposely stayed out of it for that reason.

Unfortunately, you misquoted me but ended making my point for me. Which is surprising as I am not sure why you disagree with me? Basically I stated I was against Social Programs that are wasteful. I did not say I was against “wasteful domestic item”. There are some I actually like. I also stated I am for most Social programs just not in their current form. And I gave the example of people being on welfare for life. I believe in limited time welfare. And I don’t believe in government run healthcare system. But I believe there should be a limited government run healthcare system that has private sector oversight. Or possibly run by a private sector group. And I believe in having a choice. My wife would prefer to have a private sector health insurance plan but is FORCED to be on Medicare. She has NO CHOICE. That sounds like Socialism to me. Also, I want to buy a private health sector health insurance plan but I am FORCED to buy Obamacare. I have NO CHOICE. This smacks of Socialism to me. And by the way is quite wasteful. But I digress. This is a subject for a different thread.

But I am getting away from the point you made for me so eloquently. The point is “wasteful”. I am against all waste. And I am quite surprised that you are not supporting me on this. Why would you not be on my side on waste of taxpayer dollars? It sounds like you might be a Socialist.... 

However, they can earn PR points in the press by helping our Massachusetts hospitals out via a private endeavor.  Even the private Boeing 767 was required to carry its own spare tires and parts (China can't guarantee parts if needed), and the plane  was allowed 3 hours on the ground.  They refueled, got the crew something to eat, loaded 1.2 million masks, and were airborne in 2 hours 57 minutes.  I just hope someone performs some QA testing to make sure these aren't the bad ones other countries got from China.

Well, Mr. anti-China, GOOD NEWS for New York; it appears China will be coming to the aid of American citizens once again with sending 1,000 ventilators to that state!   

Funny how COMMUNIST CHINA is rushing to help American doctors and patients in need of medical equipment, while AMERICAN CAPITALIST COMPANIES like 3M and other PRIVATE GOUGERS are shafting their own people just to earn a buck.     

What does this say as to who are the American people's real friends and enemies?   

Communism is definitely NOT the right answer, but now we see capitalism too is NOT the right answer in all cases after all.   

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They are estimating the Hawaii peak is around May first with 342 deaths for our state

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/490856-when-will-coronaviruses-cases-peak-in-your-state

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https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/what-you-should-know/current-situation-in-hawaii/

Read through this today because I still didn’t understand why they had so low pending numbers. Hawaii is not following the cdc guidelines from the link you posted. Their pending numbers are confirmed cases that they haven’t yet put into a certain county yet.

Read through this today because I still didn’t understand why they had so low pending numbers. Hawaii is not following the cdc guidelines from the link you posted. Their pending numbers are confirmed cases that they haven’t yet put into a certain county yet.

That's because "We're not going to do anything like it's done on the mainland, because Hawaii is unique."   

I am (and have been) cautiously optimistic... I'll take the Under. 

That's because "We're not going to do anything like it's done on the mainland, because Hawaii is unique."   

Lol I wish. Hawaii always has its mouth attached to California's ass. Except not releasing prisoners due to the wuhan. Guess there's that

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