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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #540 on: April 27, 2020, 09:01:58 PM »
Quote from: macsak on April 27, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancing
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...

I bet hepatitis, dysentery and food poisoning cases will be lower, too.

Good hygiene is critical to preventing almost any disease.
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drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #541 on: April 27, 2020, 09:26:27 PM »
Quote from: macsak on April 27, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancing
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
Sad when hand washing is seemingly a new thing to many. 🤢

I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.
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Kuleana

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #542 on: April 27, 2020, 09:32:58 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on April 27, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.

Maybe its because there are no stores open for potential thieves spend their ill-gotten loot.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #543 on: April 27, 2020, 11:50:32 PM »
Quote from: Kuleana on April 27, 2020, 09:32:58 PM
Maybe its because there are no stores open for potential thieves spend their ill-gotten loot.

New York City and other large cities have reported a decrease in murders, but a huge increase in property crimes, like burglaries and car theft.

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Burglars and car thieves, though, seemed undeterred by the potentially deadly bug.
Both categories saw a significant increase last month compared to the year prior.

Burglaries were up by nearly 200 — or 26.3 percent — and grand larceny autos increased
by 61.7% or 187 more stolen cars.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/major-crimes-up-12-percent-in-nyc-despite-covid-19-outbreak/
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Rocky

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #544 on: April 28, 2020, 07:31:58 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on April 27, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.
Home invasions are probably in decline.
Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene.   :rofl: :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #545 on: April 28, 2020, 07:53:57 AM »
Quote from: Rocky on April 28, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
Home invasions are probably in decline.
Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene.   :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.

I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.
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Rocky

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #546 on: April 28, 2020, 08:51:34 AM »
Quote from: Rocky on April 27, 2020, 07:44:07 AM

Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 27, 2020
Total cases (new): 607 (1)
Hawai’i County: 70 (0)
Honolulu County: 396 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 16 (1) * Please note my calculations do not match the DOH - We had 14 yesterday - I'm waiting for clarification.
Recovered: 493 (5)
We have 1 new death to report and there is only 1 new case from Maui (see table). The Oahu woman who died was older than 65 and had been hospitalized since early April. She had other health conditions.  As of April 26 the number of people who have been tested is 29,422. There currently are 114 active cases in the State that we are aware of. If you get a chance to get tested, do it.

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 26, 2020
Total cases (new): 606 (2) Both under 18 yrs old
Hawai’i County: 70 (1)
Honolulu County: 396 (1)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (0)
Recovered: 488 (6)

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 25, 2020
Total cases (new): 604 (3)
Hawai’i County: 69 (0)
Honolulu County: 395 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0)   *As a result of updated information, a case previously included in Maui’s count was re-categorized to Honolulu.
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (1)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 482 (19)

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 24, 2020
Total cases (new): 601 (5)
Hawai’i County: 69 (1)
Honolulu County: 392 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 67 (4)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 463 (8)

12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total  (New) 95  (6)  (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #547 on: April 28, 2020, 11:14:42 AM »
Libtard coworker complaining that the virus is Trumps fault.  And he's stupid and so is GA, TX, OH for wanting to reopen the economy.  Of course she can grumble, because she still has a job and getting paid.  Then she goes on to how it's also his fault many jobs are overseas like the mask being made in China. I kept my mouth shut because you can't educate morons with TDS.

But the guy she was talking to has more of an educated judgement.  So I told him some info that showed she suffers from TDS and he agreed.  He also brought up more stuff about CV that he didn't want to argue with her about.
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macsak

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #548 on: April 28, 2020, 11:19:41 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on April 28, 2020, 07:53:57 AM
Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.

I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.

I was walking in the valley this weekend and I hear two neighbors on the next street discussing the fact that their cars were broken into
they are much closer to the main road (2-3 houses) than I am though
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drck1000

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #549 on: April 28, 2020, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote from: macsak on April 28, 2020, 11:19:41 AM
I was walking in the valley this weekend and I hear two neighbors on the next street discussing the fact that their cars were broken into
they are much closer to the main road (2-3 houses) than I am though
:(  >:(

The corner house at the top of the street with intersection with a main drag got hit a few times. They added bars on windows and doors in addition to their big dog.  House location and proximity is definitely a factor. 

I do recall reports of break-ins while people were home in the PC area.  One family friend goes for walks in the neighborhood and talks story with pretty much everyone.  Coconut wireless security system is pretty strong.  They were the ones who let me know that the roofing on my dad's house was flapping in the wind.  It was one shingle and very small section.  My friend said someone from like 3 streets up noticed it one day.  I was like "damn, these old folks must have been bored to notice that".   :rofl:
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Rocky

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #550 on: April 28, 2020, 12:42:18 PM »
Quote from: Rocky on Today at 07:31:58 AM
    Home invasions are probably in decline.
    Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene.   :rofl:
Quote from: drck1000 on April 28, 2020, 07:53:57 AM
Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.
I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.
Spoke too soon  :oops:
Stay tuned   :thumbsup:
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #551 on: April 28, 2020, 01:28:29 PM »
Thats why many businesses boarded up their windows and doors.  I would think home invasions would be less because everyone is home and bored.  I expect car break ins to rise.  Robberies not as much because no one is walking the streets, parking lots, malls.

It hasn't gotten desperate yet,  maybe a meat shortage might push people over the edge.
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Rocky

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #552 on: April 29, 2020, 12:44:34 PM »

Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 27, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
    What are our flu numbers this year? Or did the cdc classify everything as cv?

Quote from: macsak on April 27, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancing
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
     In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.
     At least 14,000 people have died and 250,000 have already been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to estimates from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 26 million Americans have fallen ill with flu-like symptoms.
So that's a 75% drop in deaths CLASSIFIED as flu.
Gosh Dang Muricle !  :o
I still think many flu and other "natural causes" deaths are being classified as CV-19 deaths, even if they were  CV-19 infected yet that was not the CAUSE of death.
JMHO
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #553 on: April 29, 2020, 12:55:19 PM »
Epstein died from the flu
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #554 on: April 29, 2020, 03:46:19 PM »
FDA to approve Remdisvir which cost $1k per pill and only 1 company makes it Gilead. See below when i went to their website.

Hydrochloro cost $0.60 per pill. 12 companies make it, including that french pharma who is the 5th largest in the world. The one Trumps family trust has a mutual fund of which, 3% is allocated to it.

That stuff that Japan uses cost $0.40 per pill. Starts with an A something. 10 companies make it

Nothing to see here.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #555 on: April 29, 2020, 05:55:32 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 03:46:19 PM
FDA to approve Remdisvir which cost $1k per pill and only 1 company makes it Gilead. See below when i went to their website.

Hydrochloro cost $0.60 per pill. 12 companies make it, including that french pharma who is the 5th largest in the world. The one Trumps family trust has a mutual fund of which, 3% is allocated to it.

That stuff that Japan uses cost $0.40 per pill. Starts with an A something. 10 companies make it

Nothing to see here.

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Yeah, here's what happens when someone not on a crappy cell phone connection goes to that site ...



BTW, your FAKE NEWS is showing.  How can something that is in trials have any known costs for the public?

Not only that, but I must have missed the part where pills are being administered intravenously!    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Since January, Gilead has invested significant capital to establish a supply chain capable of large-
scale production of remdesivir.

The production of remdesivir is a long, linear chemical synthesis process that must be completed
sequentially and includes several specialized chemistry steps and novel substances with limited
global availability. The process is both resource- and time-intensive, with some individual manufacturing
steps taking weeks to complete. Because remdesivir is administered intravenously, production
also requires sterile drug product manufacturing capabilities, which limits the number of organizations
capable of manufacturing the medicine. This complex process impacts the ability to rapidly produce large
quantities of drug supply in an emergency situation like the COVID-19 pandemic. In light of these realities,
Gilead worked early on, before any clinical trials had started, to procure a steady flow of long-lead-time
raw materials that will accelerate large-scale production of remdesivir by our current and future partners
once these materials become available in significant quantities.

https://www.gilead.com/purpose/advancing-global-health/covid-19/working-to-supply-remdesivir-for-covid-19
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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macsak

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #556 on: April 29, 2020, 08:26:50 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on April 29, 2020, 05:55:32 PM
Yeah, here's what happens when someone not on a crappy cell phone connection goes to that site ...

BTW, your FAKE NEWS is showing.  How can something that is in trials have any known costs for the public?

Not only that, but I must have missed the part where pills are being administered intravenously!    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://www.gilead.com/purpose/advancing-global-health/covid-19/working-to-supply-remdesivir-for-covid-19

don't doubt his "intel"
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changemyoil66

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #557 on: April 29, 2020, 09:09:18 PM »
My bad, comes in a powder form that is then diluted. Mg to ml.

Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.

The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #558 on: April 29, 2020, 09:12:14 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
My bad, comes in a powder form that is then diluted. Mg to ml.

Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.

The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...

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What's your source for the cost, as you said, of $1000 per pill?

Or is that now being altered to $100 per some arbitrary number of milligrams?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Coronavirus from China
« Reply #559 on: April 29, 2020, 09:18:09 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
My bad, comes in a powder form that is then diluted. Mg to ml.

Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.

The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...

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By the way, if the drug is already in liquid form, it's easier to administer.  Using a powder requires reagents and possibly buffers and the like to preserve and  emulsify the drug to solid form.

Of course, I'm not an expert, but it seems implausible that the drug is in powder form, especially when their cost breakout is by the pill!   :wacko:
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