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drck1000

Pistol Caliber Carbines - Discuss
« on: February 13, 2020, 10:18:51 AM »
Let's discuss pistol caliber carbines.

I've shot them quite a bit, but haven't seriously considered getting one myself.  However, a couple of recent developments has me looking at them closer. 

Right now, the SIG MPX is lead in interest with an AR based PCC would be next.  I've heard good things about JP's PCC.  I read up a little on the CZ Scorpion, but sort of turn off by what I read so far. 

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 10:43:54 AM »
Money no object:



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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 10:59:41 AM »
i got really turned on by the Angstadt Arms MPD-9.

https://angstadtarms.com/mdp9/

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 11:00:53 AM »
Money no object:


Isn’t that only SBR? MSRP of $2200-2300 isn’t  :shake: 

I haven’t looked into things in a while, but I heard Noveske isn’t what they used to be.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 11:22:07 AM »
OG PCC  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 12:31:40 PM »
Talk to Tom G.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 02:08:08 PM »
Looks like a lot of the local shooters are using the MPX.

I tried it out the other year, but lost interest. I bought the parts to convert an AR to shoot 9mm. I think the Angstadt buffer kit I got wasn't doing a good job because it kicked pretty hard. From what I read, a heavier buffer would've done the trick.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 02:47:18 PM »
I've spent the last couple of years thinking about getting one but I've decided against it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 02:47:59 PM »
I've spent the last couple of years thinking about getting one but I've decided against it.
You should’ve got a 9 mm Tavor 😝

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 02:50:56 PM »
Looks like a lot of the local shooters are using the MPX.

I tried it out the other year, but lost interest. I bought the parts to convert an AR to shoot 9mm. I think the Angstadt buffer kit I got wasn't doing a good job because it kicked pretty hard. From what I read, a heavier buffer would've done the trick.
I was turned off by the price of the MPX, but expanding the search now.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2020, 04:21:30 PM »
How about a beretta cx4!  Can share mags if you have a compatible pistol, beretta 92/96, px4, etc..  Similar controls to a pistol.  it’s very compact and maneuverable.  One of my favorite guns in the collection.  Downside is the mag capacity due to our 10 round limit.  Also some people don’t like the styling of it.  I think you need to try it to really appreciate how great of a gun it is.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 05:30:21 PM »
Isn’t that only SBR? MSRP of $2200-2300 isn’t  :shake: 

I haven’t looked into things in a while, but I heard Noveske isn’t what they used to be.
Is there something wrong with an SBR? I happen to like the PCC as an SBR. It makes a lot of sense to me as an SBR. I think it looks pretty cool, too. You didn’t say we couldn’t discuss models we cannot buy here.  :rofl:

I don’t know about Noveske today? I have an older Noveske Infidel and it is amazingly accurate and reliable.

Another PCC I think is worth looking at is the Ruger PCC Takedown. The takedown format makes sense to me for a PCC like the SBR makes sense to me.

I want to look at the Sig as it is a delayed blowback format. Not sure but can the Sig be had in an SBR format? That sounds like the perfect PCC to me.  :love:
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2020, 05:32:32 PM »
OG PCC  :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Don’t forget .357 Magnum as well!!!
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 05:35:36 PM »
I'd like something with a locked breech, and short barrel.... :love:

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2020, 06:10:39 PM »
Isn’t that only SBR? MSRP of $2200-2300 isn’t  :shake: 

I haven’t looked into things in a while, but I heard Noveske isn’t what they used to be.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=35065.0

An HI legal rifle version.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2020, 09:27:54 PM »
I just picked up a Key Tec Sub 2000. Haven't shot it but really excited to. Cool gun

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2020, 10:07:19 PM »
Been eyeing this beauty for a couple years now...



As an AR trainer, I don’t think anything else can beat this. You can get the upper and Pmag inserts shipped direct.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2020, 10:46:48 PM »
OG PCC  :thumbsup:

I’ll get one in .357 Mag one day.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2020, 10:51:48 PM »
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=35065.0

An HI legal rifle version.
Ahh, yeah. I remember that now. $2600 is pushing it, but not out of the realm of possible. 🤔

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2020, 10:54:12 PM »
Been eyeing this beauty for a couple years now...



As an AR trainer, I don’t think anything else can beat this. You can get the upper and Pmag inserts shipped direct.
One of the guys uses that Magpul insert thing for PCC matches. It seems to work well and it isn’t expensive.