Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only (Read 115139 times)

Phazuka

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #160 on: April 16, 2020, 09:52:35 PM »
My permit to aquire 2x handguns is May 13.
Then 14 day wait, then pick up and registration.

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6716J

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #161 on: April 17, 2020, 09:12:00 AM »
My permit to aquire 2x handguns is May 13.
Then 14 day wait, then pick up and registration.

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Nothing beats having to wait to exercise a right.... >:(

You make all 3 appointments?
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Phazuka

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #162 on: April 17, 2020, 09:21:53 AM »
Nothing beats having to wait to exercise a right.... >:(

You make all 3 appointments?
They will make all 3 appointment's at the same time.  Yes, this is totally unconstitutional.  But, I lived in Australia for 10 years and the only affordable way to get a single shot is to become a farmer.  But all metro cops patrol the train stations and other locations with mp5's. 



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groveler

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #163 on: April 17, 2020, 09:29:31 AM »
They will make all 3 appointment's at the same time.  Yes, this is totally unconstitutional.  But, I lived in Australia for 10 years and the only affordable way to get a single shot is to become a farmer.  But all metro cops patrol the train stations and other locations with mp5's. 



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Sounds like a good way to get an MP5.
Wink Wink.
Remember cops aren't human, if they were
they wouldn't be cops.

Phazuka

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #164 on: April 17, 2020, 09:51:52 AM »
Sounds like a good way to get an MP5.
Wink Wink.
Remember cops aren't human, if they were
they wouldn't be cops.
Eh, I support the thin blue line bruh! 

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QUIETShooter

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #165 on: April 27, 2020, 02:32:09 PM »
Starting Monday, April 13th, you can make an appointment online for firearm permits.  Check the HPD website.

I made an appointment today.  All I want to do is re-new my long gun permit to acquire.  I didn't see any place to click for re-newal of permit so I just clicked on 3 guns or less (appointment 10 minutes or less)

Hope I did it right, lol!!
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Influence

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #166 on: April 27, 2020, 07:00:54 PM »
If someone brings in or purchases a rifle from a lgs, is the lgs currently holding them as the earliest appointments are now in June?

Made an appointment today for June 4, 18, and 22nd to renew my long gun permit as well as if I feel I want to purchase another handgun by then.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #167 on: April 27, 2020, 08:47:24 PM »
If someone brings in or purchases a rifle from a lgs, is the lgs currently holding them as the earliest appointments are now in June?

Made an appointment today for June 4, 18, and 22nd to renew my long gun permit as well as if I feel I want to purchase another handgun by then.

If you need a permit, the retailers will hold the gun until you can pick it up with the permit.

They're used to holding some purchases almost indefinitely.

If you already have your permit and have picked up the long gun, it's up to HPD to allow you to register within 5 days.  Nothing in the law says you have to delay purchases to accommodate the state's arbitrary gun registration time limits. 

The permit to ACQUIRE lets you receive the firearm from the seller.  Registration is a formality now if the police can't do reservations within 5 days.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Influence

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #168 on: April 27, 2020, 10:40:54 PM »
If you need a permit, the retailers will hold the gun until you can pick it up with the permit.

They're used to holding some purchases almost indefinitely.

If you already have your permit and have picked up the long gun, it's up to HPD to allow you to register within 5 days.  Nothing in the law says you have to delay purchases to accommodate the state's arbitrary gun registration time limits. 

The permit to ACQUIRE lets you receive the firearm from the seller.  Registration is a formality now if the police can't do reservations within 5 days.

Gotcha, thanks!

Phazuka

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #169 on: April 27, 2020, 10:44:27 PM »
How does HPD know what guns you've acquired?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #170 on: April 27, 2020, 11:38:38 PM »
How does HPD know what guns you've acquired?

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The seller has to submit paperwork to HPD on the sale. 

Plus, if you have a permit to acquire a handgun, they will obviously expect you to pickup the handgun before the permit expires.

A permit is only valid for ten days after it's issued, in other words 10 days from the date it was ready for pickup following the 2 week wait.

Quote
...no permit shall be issued to an applicant earlier than fourteen calendar days after the date of the application;
provided that a permit shall be issued or the application denied before the twentieth day from the date of application. 
Permits issued to acquire any pistol or revolver shall be void unless used within ten days after the date of issue. 
Permits to acquire a pistol or revolver shall require a separate application and permit for each transaction.  Permits
issued to acquire any rifle or shotgun shall entitle the permittee to make subsequent purchases of rifles or shotguns
for a period of one year from the date of issue without a separate application and permit for each acquisition, subject t
o the disqualifications under section 134-7 and subject to revocation under section 134-13; provided that if a permittee is
arrested for committing a felony or any crime of violence or for the illegal sale of any drug, the permit shall be impounded
and shall be surrendered to the issuing authority.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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nahp01

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #171 on: April 28, 2020, 05:35:31 PM »
Shot in the dark, but does anyone have 3 appts set up for handgun permit to acquire/permit pickup, and registration in mid May, that might want to swap for my three appointments first week of May? I'm ordering a pistol online, but won't make it in time for appt, and would rather not have to schedule till mid June. Thanks

dogman

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #172 on: April 28, 2020, 06:15:20 PM »
Shot in the dark, but does anyone have 3 appts set up for handgun permit to acquire/permit pickup, and registration in mid May, that might want to swap for my three appointments first week of May? I'm ordering a pistol online, but won't make it in time for appt, and would rather not have to schedule till mid June. Thanks
If you are purchasing from a reliable source and can get the serial number, you can apply for the permit to acquire.

aieahound

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #173 on: April 28, 2020, 07:14:52 PM »
If you are purchasing from a reliable source and can get the serial number, you can apply for the permit to acquire.

Yup. Serial Number, make, model, barrel length and caliber.
Make an appointment to register when you pick up the firearm.
Permit only good for so many days though after you pick it up if I’m not mistaken.
I think you need to pick up the firearm within 10 days of the date the permit is issued/picked up.
Should have 14 to 19 days between application and pick up of the permit.
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nahp01

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #174 on: April 28, 2020, 07:23:43 PM »
If you are purchasing from a reliable source and can get the serial number, you can apply for the permit to acquire.

Hmm that’s what I was thinking, but my FFL said that I can’t do anything until he gets possession of the gun. I’ll double check with site tomorrow, if so. Maybe it was a miscommunication.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #175 on: April 28, 2020, 08:09:59 PM »
Hmm that’s what I was thinking, but my FFL said that I can’t do anything until he gets possession of the gun. I’ll double check with site tomorrow, if so. Maybe it was a miscommunication.

I was told by my FFL that HPD won't accept a permit application from the buyer until the FFL sends HPD the transfer forms.  And the FFL can't send the forms until they receive the firearm. 

The FFL is the "owner" as far as state law is concerned, and the FFL can't become the owner until they receive the firearm.  It's at that point the FFL can transfer it to the buyer.

It's a process.  Of course a private sale is different.  Most sellers will either give you the existing registration number to give to HPD or at least a bill of sale with all the required info. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #176 on: May 01, 2020, 03:32:31 PM »
next opening is june 15th
HPD saying this process could become permanent

mrgaf

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #177 on: May 01, 2020, 06:20:09 PM »
next opening is june 15th
HPD saying this process could become permanent

You must remember most of the clowns at firearms are either flunkies or misfits on admin duty. My nephew is a cop and told me that a a while back. Could happen but if it does we need to take them to court and hopefully we will.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #178 on: May 01, 2020, 07:39:00 PM »
next opening is june 15th
HPD saying this process could become permanent

The laws will have to change, or else all these time limits for transferring and registering firearms will be out the window.,

Imagine an out -of-state visitor arriving at HPD to register without knowing they had to make an appointment 3 weeks prior. 

Would the firearm be temporarily placed in the police locker until the owner leaves?  (Hunting vacation:  ruined)

Will HPD accommodate visitor walk-ins? 

Would any of that even matter when it comes to gun-related crimes?

Inquiring minds ....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

6716J

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #179 on: May 02, 2020, 04:13:25 PM »
So much for registering within 5 days for out of state people. All those new criminals. Lots of guns off the streets when confiscated when registering them

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